Egyptian government source: the technical path to the negotiations of the Dam Al Nahda became "dead"

[The SC]

"United Nations _Space_": Egypt has 66 thousand billion cubic meters of water in Western Sahara

Dr. Ala Al-Nahri, Egypt's representative to the UN Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Space and former Vice President of the Commission on Remote Sensing, revealed preliminary estimates of the capacity of the Western Sahara reservoirs, which are thousands of years old and estimated at 66,000 billion cubic meters.

Al-Nahari said in his dialogue with the "seventh day" that important studies in 2001 proved that the amount of water 154 thousand billion cubic meters of water, and there is disagreement among scientists about the capacity of the reservoir, stressing that Western Sahara is floating on huge amounts of water enough to cultivate 7 million acres for at least 100 years, which is Egypt's promising hope in agricultural development.

 

[mahatir]

"United Nations _Space_": Egypt has 66 thousand billion cubic meters of water in Western Sahara

Dr. Ala Al-Nahri, Egypt's representative to the UN Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Space and former Vice President of the Commission on Remote Sensing, revealed preliminary estimates of the capacity of the Western Sahara reservoirs, which are thousands of years old and estimated at 66,000 billion cubic meters.

Al-Nahari said in his dialogue with the "seventh day" that important studies in 2001 proved that the amount of water 154 thousand billion cubic meters of water, and there is disagreement among scientists about the capacity of the reservoir, stressing that Western Sahara is floating on huge amounts of water enough to cultivate 7 million acres for at least 100 years, which is Egypt's promising hope in agricultural development.

Nubian Acquifier ? well along with this and maintaining Egypt current supply from nile will be enough until distilled water prices fall to an acceptable level .

After Egypt partially solved the palestinian problem and seeing Hamas members carrying sisi photo in Gaza I can say anything is possible these days.

 

[wedi]

So... are we going to war or not? I want to see that dam go up in smoke.

Without being 100% sure about the effects of this dam, you wish for devastation, lol.

What are you going to do when it is complete and has no effects whatsoever? That's what I'm intrigued to know...

Ethiopians need to get electricity from elsewhere like Solar panels, if they are experiencing droughts then it is because of lot's of heat, no? Then why not develop solar power?

A drought is below average rainfall, not no rainfall.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Without being 100% sure about the effects of this dam, you wish for devastation, lol.

We have already gone over this, I have linked numerous articles explaining how this dam will negatively affect both Egypt/Sudan and the Nile.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Without being 100% sure about the effects of this dam, you wish for devastation, lol.

What are you going to do when it is complete and has no effects whatsoever? That's what I'm intrigued to know...


A drought is below average rainfall, not no rainfall.

I hope that you realize that most of Egypt experiences almost no rainfall? Egypt is probably the driest country in the region. This is not the case in Ethiopia.



Population density:



The Nile is basically the lifeline of almost 100 million Egyptians.

Obviously an potential existential threat will not be taken lightly.

 

[wedi]

We have already gone over this, I have linked numerous articles explaining how this dam will negatively affect both Egypt/Sudan and the Nile.

And there are numerous articles saying it won't, stating advantages?....

I hope that you realize that most of Egypt experiences almost no rainfall? Egypt is probably the driest country in the region. This is not the case in Ethiopia.



Population density:



The Nile is basically the lifeline of almost 100 million Egyptians.

Obviously an potential existential threat will not be taken lightly.

I am aware it is their lifeline, but without being so certain you cannot just destroy something. Also that isn't really my issue, but the other user gives off the impression that regardless whether the dam is good or bad, he/she does not want it to be built. Hoping that is not the case.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

And there are numerous articles saying it won't,

There are no articles that state it won't hurt the Nile. Unless you're quoting Ethiopian propaganda.

 

[Gomig-21]

And there are numerous articles saying it won't, stating advantages?....

We need credible, scientific research to prove that it wouldn't affect Sudan and Egypt, and that responsibility falls on Ethiopia to provide.

 

[wedi]

There are no articles that state it won't hurt the Nile. Unless you're quoting Ethiopian propaganda.

There are loads. I could say the same back to you....

We need credible, scientific research to prove that it wouldn't affect Sudan and Egypt, and that responsibility falls on Ethiopia to provide.

Everything we say is apparently propaganda. All it depends on is how fast we fill it, once it is full, flow returns to normal.

As @Gomig-21 rightly stated, scientific research is needed to reassure Egypt of there not being any major consequences in case the dam is built.

I don't think that anyone here would have anything against this dam being built if it was found not to have negative consequences for Egypt and Sudan.

It's all a matter of how fast the dam is filled, other than that, flow returns to normal after a dam is built.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I am aware it is their lifeline, but without being so certain you cannot just destroy something. Also that isn't really my issue, but the other user gives off the impression that regardless whether the dam is good or bad, he/she does not want it to be built. Hoping that is not the case.

Egypt will be forced to act if its lifeline is threatened.

As @Gomig-21 rightly stated, scientific research is needed to reassure Egypt of there not being any major consequences in case the dam is built.

I don't think that anyone here would have anything against this dam being built if it was found not to have negative consequences for Egypt and Sudan.

Anyway don't misunderstand me. As you might know, I have no hard feelings towards Ethiopia and I actually believe that it would be wise of all the countries in the region (especially those that the Nile river is flowing through) to cooperate in this endeavor and in general. This goes for the entire Arab world and Horn of Africa and dare I say Sahel/Eastern Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa as a whole. I believe that there is a lot of potential for fruitful cooperation and I tend to think far ahead rather than the current realities of 2017. The Chinese have understood this.

It's all a matter of how fast the dam is filled, other than that, flow returns to normal after a dam is built.

That's the technical definition but as far as I am aware Egypt and Sudan are disputing this. They have their reasons and are obviously worried. Ethiopia would do well to reassure Egypt and Sudan of this not being the case. There is no reason for any secrecy if that is indeed the case.

These kind of water disputes will also hit Syria/Iraq/Turkey soon (Tigris and Euphrates), I imagine.

 

[wedi]

Egypt will be forced to act if its lifeline is threatened.

As @Gomig-21 rightly stated, scientific research is needed to reassure Egypt of there not being any major consequences in case the dam is built.

I don't think that anyone here would have anything against this dam being built if it was found not to have negative consequences for Egypt and Sudan.

Anyway don't misunderstand me. As you might know, I have no hard feelings towards Ethiopia and I actually believe that it would be wise of all the countries in the region (especially those that the Nile river is flowing through) to cooperate in this endeavor and in general. This goes for the entire Arab world and Horn of Africa and dare I say Sahel/Eastern Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa as a whole. I believe that there is a lot of potential for fruitful cooperation and I tend to think far ahead rather than the current realities of 2017. The Chinese have understood this.



That's the technical definition but as far as I am aware Egypt and Sudan are disputing this. They have their reasons and are obviously worried. Ethiopia would do well to reassure Egypt and Sudan of this not being the case. There is no reason for any secrecy if that is indeed the case.

These kind of water disputes will also hit Syria/Iraq/Turkey soon (Tigris and Euphrates), I imagine.

That I agree with.
This dam has so far passed it’s estimated completion date so I’d imagine the filling will not be so quick too

 

[The SC]

Nubian Acquifier ? well along with this and maintaining Egypt current supply from nile will be enough until distilled water prices fall to an acceptable level .

After Egypt partially solved the palestinian problem and seeing Hamas members carrying sisi photo in Gaza I can say anything is possible these days.

Don't forget desalinated waters..

 

[mahatir]

Don't forget desalinated waters..

The world future will rely on sea water and intensive agriculture in greenhouses .

Egypt started this road , 2 plants with 50,000 m3 per day were built in marsa matrouh , in addition to 150,000 m3 plant in Eastern Portsaid by a military owned company.

https://www.desalination.biz/news/0/Egypt-steps-up-desalination-plant-building-programme/8779/
https://www.desalination.biz/news/0/Egypt-to-invest-in-16-desalination-projects/8825/

Good to hear Egypt started this Journey , it will just need patience as this technology still needs 2 more decades to form a significant percentage of Egypt overall water supply .

The other threat is population growth which has to be controlled , I still expect more civil wars in the Arab world as a result of that .