Egyptian Armed Forces

[HannibalBarca]

Just FYI, Crocs, there is no tension in these conversations, in case you were wondering. This whole "lack of amo vests" and slew of different rifles and even the rumor of the 500 T-90MS contract are all just certain topics that some members are passionate about and when I refer to them as not being happy about something, it's just tongue and cheek and nobody takes it as a serious criticism of certain members. They all know I mean nothing but love and it's all in good fun. It also makes for good conversation and we all learn from others.

Every once in a while you'll get someone who snaps (like Frogman ) then we just have to bring out the love and hugs and kisses and calm everything down.

BTW, speaking of Crocodile, do you know how much of the Timsah is locally designed/engineered/produced?

They should build a civilian version, just like Jeep and Hummer did and look how successful those were in the civilian market. I could use me one of these for off-roading.

But this vehicule is the "Nimr" the UAE armored wheeled one... so who can they produce avariant without UAE approval and design?
Same for manufacturing... it's motly under licence one...

Or maybe... I'm lost...

 

[Gomig-21]

But this vehicule is the "Nimr" the UAE armored wheeled one... so who can they produce avariant without UAE approval and design?
Same for manufacturing... it's motly under licence one...

Or maybe... I'm lost...

No you're right. I was referring to the "Timsah" or "Crocodile" which is supposedly 100% designed and produced in Egypt. The Panthera is a co-developed UAE/Egypt vehicle and the pic of the Nimr I posted was just a reference to how they should make a civilian version of these armored vehicles.

Trying to find a good pic of the Timsah.

 

[HannibalBarca]

No you're right. I was referring to the "Timsah" or "Crocodile" which is supposedly 100% designed and produced in Egypt. The Panthera is a co-developed UAE/Egypt vehicle and the pic of the Nimr I posted was just a reference to how they should make a civilian version of these armored vehicles.

Trying to find a good pic of the Timsah.

my bad... I put my opinion on the pic as a reference...

 

[Gomig-21]

On another note, I'm really looking forward to the development of a new heavy, 6 wheeled APC design to replace the aging Fahd. In addition to a complete overhaul of the regular infantry forces in terms of weapons and equipment. It's overdue.

A replacement for the Fahd is overdue by at least 10 years, bro. A 6x6 would be ideal, no question. Do we know if there is anything remotely close to that happening ATM?

That's up there at the top of my wish list along with the production of a native main battle tank with a design based on the M1, Joining the FC-1 program and producing our own variant, production of heavier classes of ships like Corvettes and destroyers at Alexandria shipyards. We have the infrastructure and expertise. It shouldn't be that difficult.

You would think that since they've been assembling M1s since what, 1992? Or shortly thereafter and their experience in operating such a huge fleet of tanks and tank warfare going back 70+ years and with all that, it wouldn't be that difficult to have developed enough experience to start some line of something. Doesn't even have to be a full fledged tank, but something. That Ramses experience was garbage. It's baffling. But I'll tell you, a lot of that -- at least to me -- seems to be the result of the effects of US military aid. Whether there are restriction to local building or even the fear of losing the aid if locally produced military equipment is suddenly seen, are very real. This is for certain an issue. But then you would think that they could've tried some co-developmental outreach programs with the US to start something, but there is NOTHING of the sort besides the local assembling of the M1s. There's a certain thought process and reasoning behind that, much of it is right along the lines of refusing the sign the CISMOA which has all these far-reaching, after-effects. A third one is the possible restriction of purchasing other equipment from other suppliers that scares them. Either way, it's enough to piss us off.

my bad... I put my opinion on the pic as a reference...

No worries at all, Barca. It's all good.

 

[The SC]

No you're right. I was referring to the "Timsah" or "Crocodile" which is supposedly 100% designed and produced in Egypt. The Panthera is a co-developed UAE/Egypt vehicle and the pic of the Nimr I posted was just a reference to how they should make a civilian version of these armored vehicles.

Trying to find a good pic of the Timsah.

Not the best pic, but at least you can see what it looks like.. I have seen a lot of nice pics of it.. trying to find 'em

 

[Gomig-21]

Not the best pic, but at least you can see what it looks like.. I have seen a lot of nice pics of it.. trying to find 'em

That's a good one. I know there's a few more out there.

New pic of EAF MiG-29/35 escorting president Putin on his visit to Egypt recently. So we know there's at least 5 of them.

 

[The SC]

That's a good one. I know there's a few more out there.

New pic of EAF MiG-29/35 escorting president Putin on his visit to Egypt recently. So we know there's at least 5 of them.

Operational.. and awesome..
They were supposed to be 6 delivered by now (actually 12 are confirmed!); 6 D version for training (If you look at the first pic, the formation must have 6.. there is one on the top right that is not shown on the pic).. still 40 to come.. at least the last 26 will have the long range (up to 250 km +) AESA radar..

 

[Gomig-21]

Operational.. and awesome..
They were supposed to be 6 delivered by now (actually 12 are confirmed!); 6 D version for training (If you look at the first pic, the formation must have 6.. there is one on the top right that is not shown on the pic).. still 40 to come.. at least the last 26 will have the long range (up to 250 km +) AESA radar..

12 MiGs confirmed as of now and 15 Ka-52 Kamovs. Two of those in the pics look like the M2s and the only 2 carrying additional fuel tanks.

 

[Gomig-21]

Former Chief of Staff Mahmoud Hijazi letting off some steam with a spiffed out M4!

F-16 in hangar #1 in one of the several, newly-built airbases.

And the awesome upgraded Egyptian Mirage 5SDE with that quite unique paint scheme. Combination dark chocolate, desert sand, jungle green and orange swaths with a sub gray belly. Thank goodness that orange crap is on its way out.

 

[masud]

F-16 in hangar #1 in one of the several, newly-built airbases.

i am very much interested on EAF hanger, can any-one provide me details about those blast proff shelter in EAF service..........

 

[Ceylal]

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Photoshop at its best..

Former Chief of Staff Mahmoud Hijazi letting off some steam with a spiffed out M4!

F-16 in hangar #1 in one of the several, newly-built airbases.

And the awesome upgraded Egyptian Mirage 5SDE with that quite unique paint scheme. Combination dark chocolate, desert sand, jungle green and orange swaths with a sub gray belly. Thank goodness that orange crap is on its way out.

Does look like the ex COS lacks good gun firing practice...That sad for an army chief of almost million soldiers..

 

[Gomig-21]

i am very much interested on EAF hanger, can any-one provide me details about those blast proff shelter in EAF service..........

This type is called Aircraft Alert Shelters.

Cairo West Airport

Interestingly enough, there isn't much information on these types of hardened aircraft shelters/hangars even on Google. But I don't think they are blast proof, especially with today's powerful precision weapons that are available, especially bunker-busters and even the old cruise missiles like the Tomahawk and newly developed European ones. But those automated, rolling doors are supposedly blast-proof to a certain degree, probably from lateral fragmentation and if you look at the picture from the front, you can see there is considerable concrete thickness on the roof and sides. Still, it will only protect it so much.

Some of the older ones like in Hurghada are covered up with some of the surrounding desert sand.

Aswan.

They also have these popular dome hangars with blast-proof doors. These are pretty common.

This is also the larger style/type in the background.

Probably the same as this one here, used for parking several aircraft at once.

Another type:

Sun shelters for the fancy Rafale.

 

[masud]

This type is called Aircraft Alert Shelters.

Cairo West Airport

Interestingly enough, there isn't much information on these types of hardened aircraft shelters/hangars even on Google. But I don't think they are blast proof, especially with today's powerful precision weapons that are available, especially bunker-busters and even the old cruise missiles like the Tomahawk and newly developed European ones. But those automated, rolling doors are supposedly blast-proof to a certain degree, probably from lateral fragmentation and if you look at the picture from the front, you can see there is considerable concrete thickness on the roof and sides. Still, it will only protect it so much.

Some of the older ones like in Hurghada are covered up with some of the surrounding desert sand.

Aswan.

They also have these popular dome hangars with blast-proof doors. These are pretty common.

This is also the larger style/type in the background.

Probably the same as this one here, used for parking several aircraft at once.

Another type:

Sun shelters for the fancy Rafale.

may be EAF should take more care about those sheltar. if they don,t want to repeat the lose of 1967 Attack by IAF. i hope EAF have some Underground hangar..........anyway thanks.

 

[The SC]

may be EAF should take more care about those sheltar. if the don,t want to repeat the lose of 1967 Attack by IAF, i hope EAF have some Underground hangar..........anyway thanks.

Maybe they have reactive armour somewhere in the structure.. if not.. it might be a good idea to absorb some of the blast force..

 

[MICA]

underground hangars/shelters used for storing ammo