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  • Egypt's President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has said that the need for a joint Arab military force is growing every day as the region faces the escalating threat of armed factions.

    Sisi also said on Sunday in a recorded address aired by state television that Egypt's military has no interest in invading or attacking other nations, but will defend Egypt as well as the region "if required and in coordination with our Arab brothers".

    "The need for a unified Arab force is growing and becoming more pressing every day,'' the president said.

    The soldier-turned-politician said both Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have offered to dispatch military forces to aid Egypt following last week's beheading in Libya of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by fighters pledging allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant group (ISIL).

    Commentary: Al Jazeera's Senior Political Analyst Marwan Bishara
    President Sisi's highly produced and carefully packaged speech about Egypt's state of affairs was terribly detailed but notoriously selective.

    Sisi spoke only of "achievements" since he took office seven months ago and of the many challenges facing Egypt. Among the achievements he detailed is a $6bn arms deal with France. Buying jet fighters Egypt doesn't need with money it doesn't have to impress those who won't be impressed!

    He spoke softly and deliberately, but neglected to talk about the political turmoil in the country.

    The speech covered everything from air strikes in Libya to rice distribution but not a vision or a strategy to get Egypt out of its miserable conditions.

    It's the state of his presidency.

    Egyptian warplanes struck ISIL positions in the eastern Libyan city of Derna early on Monday, just hours after the release of a video showing the beheadings.

    Sisi said in his address that the warplanes struck 13 targets which had been "carefully surveyed and studied".

    At least seven civilians were reportedly killed in the attacks.

    The Egyptian president's assertion that a joint Arab military force was needed was the first public confirmation by an Arab leader that the creation of such a force was a possibility.

    Last November, The Associated Press news agency reported that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait were discussing the creation of a military pact to take on armed groups, with the possibility of a joint force to intervene around the Middle East.

    Last week, security and military officials said discussions of the plan were back on track after a hiatus, with Jordan, France, Italy and Algeria now viewed as possible additional partners.

    Sisi also suggested that a leaked recording in which he and aides purportedly derided powerful Arab Gulf donors had been fabricated, after an opposition-linked television station aired the tape.

    After the release of the recording earlier this month, Sisi called several Gulf Arab leaders who had donated billions of dollars to Egypt to express his support for them.

  • Muslim Brothood 'militant' charges

    The Egyptian president also promised to release young people who may have been wrongly jailed during Egypt's crackdown on the opposition since he overthrew his Islamist predecessor in 2013.

    Sisi's statement on Sunday came after Egypt's public prosecutor said he had referred 215 members of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood to trial on charges of forming a "militant group", the latest move in a sustained crackdown by authorities on armed factions.

    Egypt has mounted one of the biggest crackdowns in its recent history on the Brotherhood following the army's overthrow of President Mohamed Morsi in 2013 after mass protests against his rule.

    The 215 defendants were charged with forming an armed group called "Helwan Brigades", Hesham Barakat, the public prosecutor, said in a statement. Helwan is a district in southern Cairo.

    The prosecution's investigation said that the group was responsible for killing at least six policemen and wounding several civilians and policemen in separate attacks in Cairo.

    Of the group, 125 members are in detention, and Barakat ordered the arrest of those at large.

    Thousands of Brotherhood supporters have been arrested and put on mass trials in a campaign which human rights groups say shows the government is systematically repressing opponents. Hundreds have been killed in clashes with security forces.

    Source: Agencies
    Egypt president says need growing for joint Arab force - Al Jazeera English
 
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@Zarvan , Egypt is looking to convince NATO countries to intervene, again, in Lybia. The only ear he founds so far is France. France can't do it, due to the lack of money...and neither Egypt for a lot of reasons..
 
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Egypt wants a joint Arab military force - Business Insider
  • Feb. 23, 2015, 10:14 AM


CAIRO (AP) — Egypt's president said Sunday that the need for a joint Arab military force is growing every day as the region faces the threat of Islamic militancy.

President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi said in an address to the nation aired by local TV that Egypt's military has no interest in invading or attacking other nations, but will defend Egypt as well as the region "if required and in coordination with our Arab brothers."

A soldier-turned-politician, the Egyptian leader said both Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have offered to dispatch military forces to aid Egypt following last week's beheading in Libya of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by Islamic State militants.

Egyptian warplanes struck Islamic State positions in the eastern Libyan city of Darna early last Monday, just hours after the release of a video showing the beheadings. El-Sissi said in his address that the warplanes struck 13 targets which had been "carefully surveyed and studied." He gave no further details.

El-Sissi delivered his recorded comments in a video that showed him seated on an armchair with his desk in the background in front of a giant Egyptian white, red and black flag. His comments were made in short clips interrupted by archival footage of him meeting world leaders or speaking on previous occasions as well as Egyptian military servicemen going through their drills.

"The need for a unified Arab force is growing and becoming more pressing every day," said el-Sissi, who took office in June. As military chief, el-Sissi led the July 2013 ouster of the Islamist Mohammed Morsi, Egypt's first freely elected president, after millions took to the streets to demand that he step down.

El-Sissi's assertion that a joint Arab military force was needed was the first public confirmation by an Arab leader that the creation of such a force was a possibility. He gave no details and did not say whether any concrete steps have been taken.

However, The Associated Press last November reported that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait were discussing the creation of a military pact to take on Islamic militants, with the possibility of a joint force to intervene around the Middle East.
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Mohamed Abd El GhanySoldiers in the Egyptian military.

Last week, security and military officials said discussions of the plan were back on track after a hiatus, with Jordan, France, Italy and Algeria now viewed as possible additional partners.

However, el-Sissi's call in a radio interview aired last week for a U.N.-backed force to deal with the Islamic State in Libya was stymied by the United States and its European allies, who said a political settlement in Libya, reconciling the North African nation's two rival governments, was a priority.

On Sunday, el-Sissi lavishly praised Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates for their multibillion dollar aid to Egypt following Morsi's ouster. He said the aid was "the main reason that Egypt continued to stand fast against all the challenges and difficulties it faced."

He also sought to assure his oil-rich Gulf Arab allies over audio leaks purporting to show that he and members of his inner circle wanted to milk them for every dollar.

"Our brothers in the Gulf must know very well that we view them with appreciation, respect and love," he said.

"We must all be fully alert to the attempts being made to drive a wedge between us and our brothers," he said. "Know well that we can never insult you. We are with you in the face of all the challenges that you confront."

The leaks, for which Egyptian authorities blamed Morsi's outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, prompted el-Sissi to make a series of telephone calls last week with the leaders of Saudi Arabia, the Emirates and Kuwait.

El-Sissi did not directly mention the leaks in his Sunday broadcast.

Turning to domestic issues, el-Sissi said a "first batch" of detained youths will be released from prison within days, without elaborating. The government has waged a sweeping crackdown on Morsi's Islamist supporters as well as young members of the groups that fuelled the uprising that toppled autocrat Hosni Mubarak in 2011.

@Zarvan , Egypt is looking to convince NATO countries to intervene, again, in Lybia. The only ear he founds so far is France. France can't do it, due to the lack of money...and neither Egypt for a lot of reasons..

In case of any attack on any GCC countries then Egyptian military will intervene.
 
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What a stupid, so the arabs are going to join forces against millitants. Why not against israel:-)?

Things are not just about the militants but its even more. I dont think that US and French Carriers are there just because of ISIS.
 
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The Egyptian president's assertion that a joint Arab military force was needed was the first public confirmation by an Arab leader that the creation of such a force was a possibility.

Last November, The Associated Press news agency reported that Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait were discussing the creation of a military pact to take on armed groups, with the possibility of a joint force to intervene around the Middle East.

Last week, security and military officials said discussions of the plan were back on track after a hiatus, with Jordan, France, Italy and Algeria now viewed as possible additional partners.

The problem isn't to show unity, but actually carrying out such responsibilities when the other parties to the treaty call in the request.

Each nation will only adhere to the treaty if it suites their national interest. Imagine the chaos when the Egyptians start accusing Saudis of financing ISIS, or the Kuwaitis demanding Egypt stop bombing runs in Libya because their arm militia is getting caught in the cross fire.

Pretty soon such actions because they will be cherry picked will cause resentment among the nations that aren't part of the treaty and view it as against their National Interests because the group is supporting groups against them.
 
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What a stupid, so the arabs are going to join forces against millitants. Why not against israel:-)?

I'm guessing the reason is at least in part because unlike ISIS, Israel has an actual real Army and Air Force.

Regarding the idea of a joint Arab force. I agree with @Horus, I think it's a very sound idea.
 
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In case of any attack on any GCC countries then Egyptian military will intervene.
No. They will rely on Jordanian and Moroccan troops...GCC are not keen to see Egyptian troops on their land.

Things are not just about the militants but its even more. I dont think that US and French Carriers are there just because of ISIS.
The French carrier is there for the Idex 2015 for show and tell, to bolster French arms sales since they lost their bigger contract with India. We were amazed that it reached the Persian Gulf without breakdown.
 
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If ISIS and Muslim Brotherhood made them realize the need of Joint Military Arrangements then I would say ISIS and MB have Proved their Purpose of uniting Arab at least. It is a good Suggestion and should have been done 10 years ago before all kind of mess wasnt started in Arab world but now they would have their hands full against ISIS and MB if they move in.
 
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The only countries that would allocate forces for this idea would be the Arab countries affected by terrorism, not the others.

And those are no more than

Iraq
Syria
Libya
Egypt
Yemen

All of them have their hands full on their own country.
 
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The only countries that would allocate forces for this idea would be the Arab countries affected by terrorism, not the others.

And those are no more than

Iraq
Syria
Libya
Egypt
Yemen

All of them have their hands full on their own country.

What's wrong with having a joint military command composed of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Jordan and Egypt +/- Morocco to intervene in Yemen, Iraq and Syria and stabilize these countries and then after they may join in as well?
 
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What's wrong with having a joint military command composed of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Jordan and Egypt +/- Morocco to intervene in Yemen, Iraq and Syria and stabilize these countries and then after they may join in as well?

I'm not saying it's a wrong idea but I doubt that they will do it, they won't have problems with airstrikes but that is far different from ground forces which will take casualties.The Arab states wait for the US to make the first step, this was with the air strikes as well. UAE sent ground forces to Afghanistan but that was mainly in area's already cleared by the US from what I recall, they aren't waiting to enter the most dangerous area's in Iraq & Syria to free it from IS.

But it remains a good idea, such a force would manage to defeat terrorism rising in North Africa from Libya and Sinai. And defeat IS in Iraq allowing further intervention in Syria to stabilize it. Better than the last 3 years of proxy war in Syria which brings nothing.
 
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I'm not saying it's a wrong idea but I doubt that they will do it, they won't have problems with airstrikes but that is far different from ground forces which will take casualties.The Arab states wait for the US to make the first step, this was with the air strikes as well. UAE sent ground forces to Afghanistan but that was mainly in area's already cleared by the US from what I recall, they aren't waiting to enter the most dangerous area's in Iraq & Syria to free it from IS.

But it remains a good idea, such a force would manage to defeat terrorism rising in North Africa from Libya and Sinai. And defeat IS in Iraq allowing further intervention in Syria to stabilize it. Better than the last 3 years of proxy war in Syria which brings nothing.

Actually this force is to create the much needed umbrella for military intervention. Saudi Arabia for example doesn't have the US umbrella that Israel has that it can take actions unilaterally and have a veto in the UN to save it, or Assad in regards to Russia, its mostly on its own in foreign policy out there and rapidly losing influence in the west. But having an Arab coalition umbrella means that other countries would have to think really hard about taking actions against such a large group.
 
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