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30/10/2019

A Threat to Israel: the Egyptian Navy Upgrades its Submarine Warfare Capabilities

As part of its expedited force build-up process of the last decade, the Egyptian Navy is interested in improving its submarine warfare capabilities. The Egyptians are conducting negotiations with the Chinese regarding the acquisition of additional submarines. These are the new submarines that might pose a threat to Israel in the future

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The Egyptian Navy embarked on an expedited force build-up process about a decade ago. As part of this process, the Egyptians acquired four U-209 type submarines from Germany; surface vessels from the USA, Russia, Germany and France; cutting-edge missile and torpedo systems; anti-aircraft systems; Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) helicopters; communication, command and control systems; upgrading of old vessels and more.

The Egyptian Navy placed a particular emphasis on their submarine warfare capabilities – a medium where the Egyptian Navy regards itself as inferior to the Israeli Navy. In addition to the acquisition of the four German submarines, along with cutting-edge weapon systems, the Egyptians also initiated significant ASW upgrades in the old vessels they already possessed.

These upgrades included, for example, the upgrading of the old Chinese-made Romeo-class submarines by the USA, and integration of cutting-edge missile and torpedo systems.

Additionally, the Chinese-made Hainan-class coastal ASW patrol boats were upgraded by the installation and integration of cutting-edge, US-made sonar systems.

The three German-made submarines delivered to Egypt thus far have recently participated in a large-scale international exercise in the Mediterranean and the Red Sea, and proved their operational potential.

Chinese Enhancement

At the same time as this significant force build-up process, it appears that the Egyptians do not confine themselves to the aspiration of commanding the underwater medium. Recent reports indicated that the Egyptian Navy has been in contact with Chinese government organs and industries regarding the acquisition of additional Chinese-made submarines. The Egyptian Navy expressed an interest in Chinese S26T type diesel-powered submarines. These submarines are manufactured by the China Shipbuilding and Offshore International Company (CSOC), and are, in fact, the export configuration of their Type 39 submarine.

The Chinese Navy employs about 20 submarines of this type, and last year China sold these submarines to the Thailand Navy as well. These submarines, operated by a crew of 38, are about 66 meters long and have a displacement of about 1,900 tons. Their maximum surface speed is about 20 knots. They can operate at a maximum depth of up to 300 meters and remain submerged – according to the manufacturer – for up to 20 days. The maximum sea endurance of this submarine is 60 days.

The ability to remain submerged for 20 days is achieved through an Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system. This is a highly significant capability that enhances the stealth characteristics of the submarine and improves its survivability and its ability to execute covert operations.

Another strategic capability of the Chinese-made submarines is the ability to launch the CM-708UNB missiles they carry. These anti-ship missiles, manufactured by the CASIC Company of China, are based on the C-802 family of anti-ship missiles. A similar missile hit the Israeli Navy frigate INS Hanit during the Second Lebanon War (2006) off the coast of Lebanon.

The CM-708 missiles launched from the submerged submarine through a launching capsule have a range of about 300 kilometers and are fitted with a cutting-edge guidance head.

Apparently, based on similar missiles of the C-802 family, the C-708 missiles can accurately engage deep inland targets through GPS-based navigation.

Additionally, the submarine is fitted with Chinese-made Yu-6 type torpedoes, capable of engaging surface vessels and submarines at ranges of up to 45 kilometers using active homing, passive homing and wake homing. The ability of these torpedoes to engage a vessel by following the wake it leaves behind it is an advanced capability, for which the protective solution is complex and limited. The submarine has six launching tubes through which it can launch a range of missiles and torpedoes and even drop naval mines.

A Future Threat to Israel?

The Chinese-made Romeo-class submarines used by the Egyptian Navy are very old submarines, which exceeded their service life many years ago. The US upgrading, performed through US Aid funding, enabled these submarines to remain in service for years to come.

As this is being written, it is unclear whether the Egyptians regard the Chinese-made S26T submarines as the replacement for their old Romeo-class submarines, or whether the Egyptian Navy intends to increase the number of submarines in operational use, in the Mediterranean and the Red Sea. It is also still unclear whether the contacts between the Chinese and the Egyptians will mature into a new deal involving the acquisition of new Chinese-made submarines.

In the event that this deal materializes, the Chinese submarines will constitute yet another significant upgrade for the submarine fleet of the Egyptian Navy, as they will provide it, on the one hand, with the ability to operate at very long ranges and covertly, while on the other hand they will enable the Egyptian Navy to attack naval vessels and high-value targets deep inland using the C-708 long-range cruise missiles. Additionally, they will be able to attack enemy submarines and surface vessels using the advanced Yu-6 torpedoes.

The state-of-the-art weapon systems on board this submarine and its various capabilities would add up to a significant threat to the Israeli Navy offshore, deep under the surface and even on land, if these submarines were actually purchased.

https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/40697
 
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Clever move by Egypt. Balancing their weaponry between West and Russia/China, and i doubt these are aimed at Israel. Egypt is a rising power so needs to maintain its defence
 
Clever move by Egypt. Balancing their weaponry between West and Russia/China, and i doubt these are aimed at Israel. Egypt is a rising power so needs to maintain its defence
Egypt had French american Russian and chinese systems. These systems do not marry and hence maintenance will be a nightmare. Acquisition of spares and general know how
 
The S26T submarine
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Type 39 / Song Class Attack Submarine

Type

Attack submarine
Builder

Wuhan shipyard (Wuchang shipyard)
Operator

People's Liberation Army Navy
Crew

60


The Type 039 / Song Class attack submarine was built by Wuhan Shipyard (Wuchang Shipyard) for the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) of China. It was the first indigenously built submarine of China. The class is preceded by Type 035 (Ming Class) and succeeded by Type 041 (Yuan Class) submarines.

The Type 039 was introduced to replace the Romeo / Ming Class submarines. The keel of the first submarine of the class, No. 320, was laid down in 1991. It was launched in May 1994 but was not commissioned until June 1999 due to design and performance problems.

Following extensive redesign work, a new modified version known as Type 039G was introduced. The new design reduced the acoustic signature and enhanced the underwater performance of the submarine.

The first Type 039G sub, No. 321, was launched in November 1999 and commissioned in April 2001.
The second of the class, No.322, was commissioned in December 2001, while the third submarine, No. 323, entered service in November 2003.

The construction on another new version, Type 039G1, commenced at Wuchang Shipyard and Jiangnan Shipyard in 2004. A series of 12 submarines were built at the two shipyards.

Type 039 design

“The submarine incorporates Chinese and Western technologies.”

The design features a low-drag hydrodynamically profiled hull and sail. Type 039 was the first submarine to use a teardrop hull design. The body is water-drop shaped and the hull is covered with rubber tiles to absorb the sound waves of sonar. The class is equipped with a seven-blade propeller and an engine fitted with a shock-absorbing base.

The submarine incorporates Chinese and Western technologies.

Type 039 has a length of 75m, a beam of 8.4m and a draught of 5.3m. The submerged displacement of the boat is 2,250t. The submarine has 12kt – 15kt surfaced and 22kt dived speed. It can complement 60 crew members.

The submarine is primarily designed for anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare. It can also perform the missions of reconnaissance, mine laying and patrolling.

Submarine command and control

The Song Class is equipped with a multi-role combat and command system. It is an upgraded version of the combat and command system used in the Ming Class submarines. The data provided by the system is used to control the submarine, and firing of torpedoes and missiles.

Song Class torpedoes

The Song Class submarine is fitted with six 533mm bow torpedo tubes for torpedoes and anti-ship missiles. These tubes can launch Yu-3 acoustic-homing anti-submarine torpedoes and Yu-4 passive acoustic-homing anti-ship torpedoes. Yu-4 has a speed of 30kt and a range of 6km. The submarine can also carry 24 to 36 tube-launched naval mines in place of torpedoes.

Submarine missiles

Type 039 is also armed with YJ-8 anti-ship cruise missiles launched from the torpedo tubes. The YJ-8 travels at a speed of Mach 0.9, and can strike the surface vessels within the range of 80km. It carries a 165kg warhead.

Submarine countermeasures


The submarine is fitted with SRW209 electronic warfare suite comprising electronic support measures, a radar warning receiver and a radio direction finder. The system is fully automatic and manually operated. It operates on S – Ku bands and can be linked with the combat data system.

Type 039 sensors / radars


The underwater sensor suite consists of a medium-frequency active / passive bow array, a passive interception and ranging array and two passive flank arrays.

“Type 039 is equipped with a diesel-electric propulsion system.”

The bow-mounted sonar can track 4-12 targets simultaneously, while flank-mounted low-frequency tracks four targets simultaneously to a maximum range of 30km.

The sonar array also performs underwater communication and torpedo approach warning functions. An I-band radar is also fitted for surface search missions.

Diesel-electric propulsion system

The Type 039 submarine is equipped with a diesel-electric propulsion system. Three German MTU 16V396SE84 diesel engines drive the large asymmetrical seven-bladed skewed propeller through a single shaft. The submarine is equipped with four alternators and an electric motor.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/songclassubmarine/
Egypt is most likely getting the Type 041 (Type 39A with AIP). The class is designed to replace the aging Type 033 Romeo of which Egypt has 8
 
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Sisi is. Mad he should help his public to get out of this period he is buying weapins
 
Any update on the negotiations?
Not yet.. but we know that Egypt needs them..and will most likely get them.
The other alternative would be type 214 with AIP from Germany.. but China can offer more TOT which goes with Egypt's new procurements policy.. the Germans won't offer as much.. also it gives Egypt some independence in weaponry..
 

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