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[agentny17]

Pictures of churches burnt by the Muslim Brotherhood and their supporters all across Egypt after the ouster of former president Morsi. Over 70 churches have been attacked so far

 

[Jihad_]

Saudi Arabia Blames America For the Turmoil in Egypt - The Daily Beast

In an unprecedented comment this weekend, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah blamed American "ignorance" for the crisis in Egypt. Without mentioning America by name, the king blamed Washington's "interference" in Arab politics for the last two years of turmoil.

In a scathing statement, the king urged Muslims to stand behind the Egyptian Army in fighting terrorism and extremism. Speaking in sorrow, Abdullah blamed outsiders ignorant of Arabism, Islam, and Egypt for senseless interference in the politics of the Arab world's most populous state. Clearly referring to President Obama's decision two years ago to push for Hosni Mubarak's ouster, the king suggested Washington played with fire and has now been burned.

The Saudis were shocked when Obama abandoned Mubarak, a close Saudi ally, in 2011. They saw a dangerous precedent for their own future. Since then the kingdom has been the leader of the counterrevolution in the Arab world, bucking up regimes in Bahrain, Yemen, and Jordan. The Saudis were early supporters of the coup in Cairo and have rallied their Gulf allies, Kuwait and the UAE, to promise $12 billion in aid to the military government that has ousted the Muslim Brotherhood. The UAE issued its own statement this weekend fully backing Abdullah.

Both the UAE and the kingdom see the Brotherhood as a menace. More importantly Abdullah fears that if democratic elections begin to flourish in the Arab world, then sooner rather than later Saudis will want elections and change in the kingdom itself.

The king called for the “ignorant” to come to their senses and stop interfering in Egypt. Criticizing the army crackdown, as Obama has done, only helps the "terrorists," the king argues.

For Riyadh the Arab awakening posed a new threat, a mortal challenge to the world's last absolute monarchy, that America has been too slow to understand. Come to your senses, America, and back the army, the king urges. Stick with autocracy.

 

[Hussein]

Yes, keep spreading lies. I got a cartoon for you to understand

sorry , which lies? i was criticizing his over (extra over) exageration
anyone smart reading all the blames he was writing ... i mean this is too much and non sense

we need to keep wise enough in this forum, and keep calm
stop entering in a very passion way of lies machine

about USA , you sure they know what they want ?
@Solomon2 few days ago was posting a very good article about link between US and MB
the best one .

 

[Solomon2]

Saudi Arabia Blames America for the Turmoil in Egypt
by Bruce Reidel Aug 19, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

Saudi Arabia’s king said that Washington’s ‘interference’ in Arab politics is to blame for the coup in Egypt. Bruce Riedel on Abdullah’s pitch: autocracy will set you free.

In an unprecedented comment this weekend, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah blamed American "ignorance" for the crisis in Egypt. Without mentioning America by name, the king blamed Washington's "interference" in Arab politics for the last two years of turmoil.

President Barack Obama meeting with Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah, seated left, June 29, 2010, in the Oval Office of the White House. (Ron Edmond/AP)​

In a scathing statement, the king urged Muslims to stand behind the Egyptian Army in fighting terrorism and extremism. Speaking in sorrow, Abdullah blamed outsiders ignorant of Arabism, Islam, and Egypt for senseless interference in the politics of the Arab world's most populous state. Clearly referring to President Obama's decision two years ago to push for Hosni Mubarak's ouster, the king suggested Washington played with fire and has now been burned.

The Saudis were shocked when Obama abandoned Mubarak, a close Saudi ally, in 2011. They saw a dangerous precedent for their own future. Since then the kingdom has been the leader of the counterrevolution in the Arab world, bucking up regimes in Bahrain, Yemen, and Jordan. The Saudis were early supporters of the coup in Cairo and have rallied their Gulf allies, Kuwait and the UAE, to promise $12 billion in aid to the military government that has ousted the Muslim Brotherhood. The UAE issued its own statement this weekend fully backing Abdullah.

Both the UAE and the kingdom see the Brotherhood as a menace. More importantly Abdullah fears that if democratic elections begin to flourish in the Arab world, then sooner rather than later Saudis will want elections and change in the kingdom itself.

The king called for the “ignorant” to come to their senses and stop interfering in Egypt. Criticizing the army crackdown, as Obama has done, only helps the "terrorists," the king argues.

Saudi Arabia's super rich neighbor Qatar is also the target of Abdullah's ire. Qatar promised the Brotherhood as much as $8 billion in aid before the coup and has called for the army to free President Morsi from detention since. Again, without naming Qatar specifically, the king blasts those who "inadvertently" are on the wrong side in Egypt, suggesting Qatar has lost sight of the need for the Gulf monarchies to stand united behind autocracy.

The Saudis don't want an open break with Washington, so their critique is indirect. Riyadh still wants to work with Washington on Iran, al Qaeda, Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, and other issues. The Saudis value an alliance that dates back to 1945. But the alliance has always been based on shared threat assessments—not shared values. Whether the threat was the Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein, Shia Iran or al Qaeda, America and Saudi Arabia were partners. But for Riyadh the Arab awakening posed a new threat, a mortal challenge to the world's last absolute monarchy, that America has been too slow to understand. Come to your senses, America, and back the army, the king urges. Stick with autocracy.

The Arab awakening has always put America between its values and its interests. We want democracy to succeed. We believe that is the only sustainable path to genuine stability. But our allies want predictable autocrats to rule. Messy tough decisions will be confronting Obama at every turn.


Bruce Riedel is director of Brookings new Intelligence Project. He has served as an adviser in the White House to the last four presidents. His most recent book is: Avoiding Armageddon: America, India and Pakistan to the Brink and Back.

For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at editorial@thedailybeast.com.

 

[hussain0216]

That is exactly i call you and other Islamists terrorists!! You are "smart" to do Jihad behind your computer screen, but in Egypt some are not as "smart" as you and decide to kill others and destroy houses of worship, and government buildings, streets, and bridges, and other properties and that is why security forces kill them.

You're slaughtering thousands of innocent people

A point comes when people must fight back against oppression, the egyptisn army has proven itself beneath contempt and can no longer be trusted the people must begin to fight back to defend the ms

 

[agentny17]

You're slaughtering thousands of innocent people

A point comes when people must fight back against oppression, the egyptisn army has proven itself beneath contempt and can no longer be trusted the people must begin to fight back to defend the ms

Good ahead, tough guy!!

 

[hussain0216]

Bodies of 28 police conscripts killed by Islamists in Sinai arrive at a military airport in Cairo

God will not accept these people

They will burn in hell now, pfff so much for their nationalism

 

[islamrules]

The burning happened in One or two Days at most , the MB have been there for 80 years n they never harmed a christian church, we all know who bombed the "2 saints" church just before the revolution, in fact they protected the churches in Jan 25 so what ur saying is that they decide to turn into terrorists in one day ?? n why they were no casualties in human life amongst the burned churches ??
The police left their positions purposely to allow the thugs to attack n that is one of ur own admitting that they authorized Pisi and he sent them thugs to burn their churches

and after the burning , Pisi promises to fix the churches with state money, but he has no money for the burning Masjids, bc kuffars r more important for him

 

[Solomon2]

@Solomon2 few days ago was posting a very good article about link between US and MB

I guess you're either referring to Totten's interview of Trager or The New America Foundation analysis by Barfi.

 

[hussain0216]

Who gives a crap about churches the egyptian military has killed thousands in cold blood

 

[Jihad_]

Who gives a crap about churches the egyptian military has killed thousands in cold blood

That's not an excuse, for whoever that's behind it, (maybe the totalitairan regime) to burn churches. It's terrorism.

 

[flamer84]

Who gives a crap about churches the egyptian military has killed thousands in cold blood

If it would have been a mosque you would have filled this forum with your womenly screams."the horror ! the horror!"..Well it looks like most egyptians give a damn,they're living side by side with christians for over 1300 years as a nation they don't need a clueless pakistani speaking for them on the net.

God will not accept these people

They will burn in hell now, pfff so much for their nationalism

Here it is ladies and gentlemen,God's personal spokesman! Thanks for sharing His thoughts man!

 

[hussain0216]

That's not an excuse, for whoever that's behind it, (maybe the totalitairan regime) to burn churches. It's terrorism.

Fine I accept that, it's a counter productive action anyway just gives the egyptian army an excuse

But at the day even nothing can be compared to thousands of human beings being gunned Down in cold blood

 

[ELTurco]

You are a retard!! These are the pictures of the murdered 28 off-duty policemen that have been killed by Islamists in Sinai. You claim to be a Muslim and all you do is spread lies.

How can you be so sure about the perpetrators do they have evidence,proof?

At this critical stage responsible ones can be anyone from anywhere you have to consider those are the only people who would not benefit from that deed.

 

[agentny17]

God will not accept these people

They will burn in hell now, pfff so much for their nationalism

Well, F*** your "God" then, if he is that evil!!