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Editorial : BRICS Decleration

I wasnt looking for the source otherwise i would have said so. The point i made is beyond your comprehension capability as evident. So dont bother again replying.

You were demeaning "Dawn" as a source.... I provided you (and everyone else for that matter) with an "alternative" source... Was it so difficult to understand.... Should I explain it again as it should be done for a KG student...

All hail your superior comprehension ability (and your expertise with English).... Perhaps because of it you (and your lots) resort to personal attacks on every second posts of yours.....
 
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This is indeed a very serious matter. We must not forget that 3 members of the BRIC club that is Brazil, China & Russia are considered friendly nations. Pakistan’s romance with the US is already over, can we afford to dismiss the declaration simply as Indian inspired when China is also party to it?
Pakistan is not part of BRICS hence its declaration isn't incumbent on Pakistan. Neither Russia or China asked us bilaterally to take actions against these Afghan and Kashmiri freedom fighters. And off course the declaration is Indian inspired, they have listed these groups in the declaration. These groups pose no threat to others in BRICS. Russia and China engage with some of these groups.
 
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You were demeaning "Dawn" as a source.... I provided you (and everyone else for that matter) with an "alternative" source... Was it so difficult to understand.... Should I explain it again as it should be done for a KG student...

All hail your superior comprehension ability (and your expertise with English).... Perhaps because of it you (and your lots) resort to personal attacks on every second posts of yours.....
So you are the persistent type, not that it comes as a surprise knowing your lot but like i said move on. Not interested in your rants.
 
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Yes, I agree with you. We need to do a much better job of forwarding the argument.
Thank you for replying with a intelligent answer. Sometimes when I bring points like this up, or point out that Pakistanis would not believe India if India captured a "ISI agent" and he confessed to supporting terrorism in India.
 
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Thank you for replying with a intelligent answer. Sometimes when I bring points like this up, or point out that Pakistanis would not believe India if India captured a "ISI agent" and he confessed to supporting terrorism in India when they talk about Kabulshan Jadav they ignore me.

That is wrong on our part. But then, we are long suffering at the hands of a group of your countrymen. It is easy for the distrust sparked by a few to grow and encompass the whole group.
 
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Pakistan is not part of BRICS hence its declaration isn't incumbent on Pakistan. Neither Russia or China asked us bilaterally to take actions against these Afghan and Kashmiri freedom fighters. And off course the declaration is Indian inspired, they have listed these groups in the declaration. These groups pose no threat to others in BRICS. Russia and China engage with some of these groups.
India is only worried about India specific groups.the declaration may not mean much to but for us the next step will be to pass the resolution at UN after the declaration it will be hard for China to veto when it comes to vote.
 
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India Ecstatic Over BRICS Naming Pakistan Terror-Groups
by GERRY BROWN

It must have been a great day in India yesterday, with the entire nation in a celebratory, ecstatic mood. Probably on par with the Duke of Wellington defeating Napoleon in the battle of Waterloo. It couldn’t have come at a better time for New Delhi, with the economy devastated by Modi’s self-destructive demonetisation, the summer of discontent in Kashmir, Darjeeling and Northeastern India, and withdrawal from the Donglang/Doklam border standoff with China.

No, it’s not a military victory that sent Indians into a frenzy across the land of godman. It’s a self-proclaimed, delusional “diplomatic” victory. Yesterday, the front page news of the Indian printed media was inundated with the following typical battle cry:

“India achieved a major diplomatic victory over Pakistan—and China—when the association of BRICS nations condemned terror by naming several Pakistan-sponsored terror networks such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, the Haqqani network and Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. “

But, what did the BRICS Declaration actually say? Nothing to write home about for a calm, rational person :

“48. We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.”

China didn’t sell out or betray its “iron-clad” brother Pakistan in agreeing to include the three Pakistan-based militant groups in the BRICS Declaration. Much less under Indian pressure. The three groups have been banned by Pakistan itself since 2015. If anything, it’s just China and Russia throwing a sop to the delusional and petulant Modi to prevent him from disrupting the BRICS Summit, akin to throwing a piece of bone to a hungry dog to stop the barking.

The following report from the horse’s mouth, Pakistan’s major daily The Nation, confirms what it’s really all about:

“ISLAMABAD/Lahore – Pakistan Monday wondered at India’s celebrations over BRICS’ naming some alleged Pakistan-based terror networks that are already on country’s list of banned outfits.”

“Indian officials and media tried to sell mention of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) among the terrorists groups as a diplomatic defeat for Pakistan, ignoring the fact that Islamabad regards these groups anti-peace entities and had declared them proscribed organizations years ago.”

As in the BRICS Summit in Goa last year, India doesn’t get what it desperately wants this year : Naming Masood Azhar, founder and leader of JeM, as a terrorist and putting him on the UN sanctions list. Nor is there mention of cross-border terrorist attacks allegedly committed by the Pakistan-based groups.

Days earlier, both China and Russia had issued statements supporting Pakistan in its anti-terrorism efforts after Trump scolded Islamabad for not having done enough. That’s more substantive and meaty than mere mention of the three Pakistan-based militant groups already proscribed by Islamabad.

Both Xi Jinping and Putin are focussed on the big picture, while Modi is still mired in hostility with its neighbor. Once again, it shows clearly the provincial politician in Modi has failed to rise to become a player in geopolitics. He and his Modibob are still stuck at the binary gears of sulking or fits of exuberance. A classic case of “Much ado about nothing”!
 
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India Ecstatic Over BRICS Naming Pakistan Terror-Groups
by GERRY BROWN

It must have been a great day in India yesterday, with the entire nation in a celebratory, ecstatic mood. Probably on par with the Duke of Wellington defeating Napoleon in the battle of Waterloo. It couldn’t have come at a better time for New Delhi, with the economy devastated by Modi’s self-destructive demonetisation, the summer of discontent in Kashmir, Darjeeling and Northeastern India, and withdrawal from the Donglang/Doklam border standoff with China.

No, it’s not a military victory that sent Indians into a frenzy across the land of godman. It’s a self-proclaimed, delusional “diplomatic” victory. Yesterday, the front page news of the Indian printed media was inundated with the following typical battle cry:

“India achieved a major diplomatic victory over Pakistan—and China—when the association of BRICS nations condemned terror by naming several Pakistan-sponsored terror networks such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, the Haqqani network and Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. “

But, what did the BRICS Declaration actually say? Nothing to write home about for a calm, rational person :

“48. We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.”

China didn’t sell out or betray its “iron-clad” brother Pakistan in agreeing to include the three Pakistan-based militant groups in the BRICS Declaration. Much less under Indian pressure. The three groups have been banned by Pakistan itself since 2015. If anything, it’s just China and Russia throwing a sop to the delusional and petulant Modi to prevent him from disrupting the BRICS Summit, akin to throwing a piece of bone to a hungry dog to stop the barking.

The following report from the horse’s mouth, Pakistan’s major daily The Nation, confirms what it’s really all about:

“ISLAMABAD/Lahore – Pakistan Monday wondered at India’s celebrations over BRICS’ naming some alleged Pakistan-based terror networks that are already on country’s list of banned outfits.”

“Indian officials and media tried to sell mention of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) among the terrorists groups as a diplomatic defeat for Pakistan, ignoring the fact that Islamabad regards these groups anti-peace entities and had declared them proscribed organizations years ago.”

As in the BRICS Summit in Goa last year, India doesn’t get what it desperately wants this year : Naming Masood Azhar, founder and leader of JeM, as a terrorist and putting him on the UN sanctions list. Nor is there mention of cross-border terrorist attacks allegedly committed by the Pakistan-based groups.

Days earlier, both China and Russia had issued statements supporting Pakistan in its anti-terrorism efforts after Trump scolded Islamabad for not having done enough. That’s more substantive and meaty than mere mention of the three Pakistan-based militant groups already proscribed by Islamabad.

Both Xi Jinping and Putin are focussed on the big picture, while Modi is still mired in hostility with its neighbor. Once again, it shows clearly the provincial politician in Modi has failed to rise to become a player in geopolitics. He and his Modibob are still stuck at the binary gears of sulking or fits of exuberance. A classic case of “Much ado about nothing”!
Dont bust their bubble yet. They will soon wake up to the reality like those fake surgical strikes were.
 
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Dont bust their bubble yet. They will soon wake up to the reality like those fake surgical strikes were.

Sorry bhaijan, I am just trying to control the Indian population boom. Millions get pregnant after a news like this. :unsure:
 
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How about one of those Kulbhusan video fiasco? pro tip, next time hire a better actor to do the job, even any tom dik uploader in YouTube has better editing skills then ur media mouthpiece.

So You're Saying Yadev Was Not An Indian But A Paid Pakistani Actor:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That is wrong on our part. But then, we are long suffering at the hands of a group of your countrymen. It is easy for the distrust sparked by a few to grow and encompass the whole group.

Has Anyone Noticed That The Declaration Also Mentioned TTP Which Means They Are Blaming Afghanistan As Well????
 
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No, what we need to consider, is how come India is not viewed a net exporter of terrorism because of its hand behind TTP and BLA. Since TTP is on the list, we need to double time in proving to the world that it is an Indian creation.

The irony is that the phenomenon of TTP only started during later 2000's, especially 2006 onward's I guess. But various other groups mentioned in the declaration had been active and operating from Pakistan's soil, I reiterate Pakistan's soil long before that. Moreover I bet you won't be able to show a single member/terrorist among these organizations who is an Indian citizen or you won't be able to show a single training camp within Indian soil from which training and equipment's are provided to any of the terror organizations unlike some of India's neighbors. Therefore Pakistan will have a really tough time convincing at-least your all friends about Indian involvement (if any), let alone the entire world community. :p:


How about you mind your own business and stop giving us lessons in tactics? Terrorism is your problem, deal with it.

Sure, and we love to mind our own business unless our neighbors do the same as far as we are concerned. When one promotes terrorist activities in their neighborhood never expect a bunch of roses in return. :p:

The famous newspaper for leaking classified information. Nuff said

Small correction mate. "The famous newspaper for publishing leaked classified information". I guess they don't have any direct involvement in leaking. I mean both India and Pakistan are big countries, but I don't think anything is 100% fool proof here. :p:
 
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