ECP alarmed at 28 clauses of electoral reforms bill

[Norwegian]

It needs legislation first, and time to build and test the system

Legislation is done and ECP has plenty of time. It's just that it doesn't want to implement reforms. Remember the reply ECP gave to SC regarding barcodes on senate polls. They said they don't have time

 

[Falconless]

They have more than ample business opportunities to enjoy.

It's against natural law.

If someone in Pasni cannot vote in Miranshah, then why do Canadians, Americans or Brits be allowed to vote in Layyah or Chaghi?

Non-resident citizen voting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Overseas constituency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Jungibaaz]

Paper ballots are tested in how many elections so far. Are they working? They are still causing voter fraud in every election.

Paper ballots already have a system in place, yes it’s a system that sucks and is prone to abuse. But that does not excuse a poorly thought out, unplanned, and rushed replacement, based on a political whim.

I also don’t want paper ballot, but these processes SHOULD be prepared for the next election if all the ground work for implementation is had now.

 

[Norwegian]

Horse trading is a crime under penal code of Pakistan entrusted upon GoP to uphold.

Election commissions job is to conduct rigged elections then?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Election commissions job is to conduct rigged elections then?

This is the third random reactionary strawman I’m reading. Nobody has properly addressed the ECP’s arguments in the OP.

 

[El Sidd]

Non-resident citizen voting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Overseas constituency - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Pakistan is unlike those countries listed here.

Election commissions job is to conduct rigged elections then?

ECP officials are not above law.

 

[Norwegian]

This is the third random reactionary strawman I’m reading. Nobody has properly addressed the ECP’s arguments in the OP.

ECP was part of law making process. They are only complaining now after the law is already passed. Meaning they are not interested in reforms.

Pakistan is unlike those countries listed here.


ECP officials are not above law.

Yes Pakistanis love vote rigging and then complain after every election

 

[El Sidd]

Yes Pakistanis love vote rigging and then complain after every election

If you nothing but contempt for Pakistan and Pakistanis, why are you desperate for a vote there?

 

[Falconless]

Pakistan is unlike those countries listed here.

Only difference is that Pakistan’s diaspora has a bigger stake in the economy due to remittances.

 

[Verve]

President has powers to suspend ECP as an institution and constitute another temporary institution to hold the elections. If current ECP doesn't comply or intentionally delays implementation.

 

[El Sidd]

Only difference is that Pakistan’s diaspora has a bigger stake in the economy due to remittances.

Monetary stakes are appreciated through business incentives unlike anywhere else too.

This Liberian revolutionary mentality of an insecure government should be answered through the might of Pakistani constitution.

 

[Falconless]

The might of the of Pakistani constitution.

Nice joke, I hope you do realize that the constitution is just an islamified version of the Government of India act of 1935.

 

[El Sidd]

Nice joke, I hope you do realize that the constitution is just an islamified version of the Government of India act of 1935.

and?

 

[Falconless]

and?

It’s just a piece of paper, to be updated to keep pace with a changing nation.

So all this constitutional puritanicalism is only going to hold a country and her society back.

Just look at the mess that the US is becoming because of them treating their constitution as a bible instead of a legal document that it is.

 

[Sugarcane]

Although some of points are valid but if ECP would have been doing job honestly instead of being b!tch of crooks there wouldn't have been any need of reducing their powers.

NADRA is posses resources and capabilities to maintain voters list much better than ECP. This responsibility should be transferred to NADRA, however ECP may act as cross check in case someone have complaints regarding his/her vote registration.

Why a party who can't gather support of 10,000 people should be allowed to waste public's time and resources. In my opinion even that is quite low, it should be 100,000 at-least.