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A huge protest in the capital against an Islamist party and its leaders
Feb 16th 2013 | DHAKA |From the print edition

Broad change, or a tight noose?

THEY are the biggest rallies in Bangladesh for at least two decades. Hundreds of thousands of protesters gather peacefully each day in Dhaka, the capital, demanding vengeance against a bearded political figure, Abdul Quader Mollah. Their numbers swell daily: ordinary people furious that, despite his conviction for dreadful crimes during Bangladesh’s war of independence in 1971, Mr Mollah faces only a life sentence.

The rallies began on February 5th after online activists called for protests at Shahbag, a busy intersection in central Dhaka. They want Mr Mollah and others on trial to face the death penalty. He was convicted by the International Crimes Tribunal, a local court set up by the government of Sheikh Hasina to prosecute men, largely from an Islamic opposition party, accused of murder, torture, rape and other wartime atrocities. When, somewhat unexpectedly, Mr Mollah was spared a death sentence, he was seen flicking supporters a V-for-victory sign. That smug gesture may have helped to provoke the outrage.


Shahbag has given its name to the protests, though some now dub it “new generation roundabout”, hinting at broad aspirations for political change. Families attend, with toddlers sporting bandannas bearing slogans that call for the death penalty. Television coverage helps to draw the crowds. By February 15th, and Friday prayers, 500,000 people may gather. The sight of young, otherwise progressive Bangladeshis seeking capital punishment, through music, street theatre, chants and recitals, is both moving and unsettling. Almost no one pays heed to known flaws in the trial.

Both the ruling Awami League and, belatedly, the chief opposition, the Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP), have fallen in with the protests. Senior politicians from the ruling party have attempted to co-opt the demonstrations, but their efforts to speak to the crowd were firmly rebuffed. Still, the League could get a boost. Sheikh Hasina honoured her promise to hold war-crimes trials. In parliament this week she also spoke up for the death penalty, saying that even impartial judges must listen to public opinion. Next, the parliament is expected, on February 17th, to amend the act behind the war-crimes court so that the government can appeal against verdicts. Mr Mollah’s reprieve may be short-lived.

Matters are trickier for the BNP, which dallied for eight days before joining the protesters. It had more to lose, in particular a useful electoral alliance with the biggest Islamist party, the Jamaat-e-Islami, whose leaders comprise most of those on trial. In the end, so many BNP supporters went off to join the Shahbag protests that the party had no choice.

Protesters say that their movement is a narrow one against political Islam: in favour of secular government, they want Jamaat banned. A rampage by Jamaat’s violent youth wing has done nothing to damp down such calls. The government, which has already brought back an explicitly secular constitution from 1972, may soon feel ready to move.

Yet, as with any big protests, further political demands may emerge. The protests could become a plea for broad change. Few like a political system dominated by a long, bitter fight between a pair of self-serving dynasties, those of Sheikh Hasina and the BNP’s Khaleda Zia, and their stave-wielding followers. If that duopoly were broken up, many at Shahbag would celebrate.

From the print edition: Asia

Bangladesh: Mass dissatisfaction | The Economist
 
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Bangladesh: Government Backtracks on Rights | Human Rights Watch

“The trials against the alleged mutineers and the alleged war criminals are deeply problematic, riddled with questions about the independence and impartiality of the judges and fairness of the process,” Adams said. “This is tragic, as those responsible for serious crimes could end up appearing to be victims of a miscarriage of justice. By dismissing all criticism out of hand without any real inquiry into them, the government shows it is more concerned about winning votes than about following the rule of law.”
 
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Human Rights Watch, which in addition to Indian and Bangladeshi human rights organizations, has done things such as campaign against BSF murders (the BSF murders both Indians and Bangladeshis) must be respected as an objective organization.

My main concern is not with the individual rezakar war criminals on trial and what happens to them but Bangladeshis as a nation rejecting the Jamati ideology (which of course they do as Jamatis are only 4.6% of the electorate) but making it clear to the entire world they say no to the Jamat.

1. I would not support the execution of war criminals if it destabilizes Bangladesh and brings it to something approaching civil war. In that case there would be a new 1/11 and the Hasina regime would be overthrown.

2. If Jamati war criminals are not convicted in a proper and just legal manner.

Hasina is already talking of passing laws that would allow the state to execute Kader Molla.

If he is executed then it is quite clear that the Jamatis will basically declare war, and then the Awami student (terror) wings will then retaliate as an auxiliary force to the police. If total disruption ensues, there may be another 1/11.

This is what happened in the last 1/11 (military take over and installation of civilian technocratic government run by pro-American officials):

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Hasina arrested.

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Khaleda arrested and her two sons, who were involved in massive corruption.

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Khaleda's son "Coco" given a beating by Bangladeshi security personnel.

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Khaleda's other son, Tariq Zia, beaten.

ARMY MAY BE CALLED IN TO ONCE AGAIN CRACK DOWN ON AWAMI/BNP/JAMATI THUGS.


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If we have to go through another 1/11 in order to bring rezakars to justice, then so be it.

What is funny is that in 1/11.

1. The Awami leader was arrested
2. The BNP leader and her sons were arrested too.

I can't remember anything happening to the Jamatis back then.

Now the Jamatis have faced imprisonment.

This shows any political leader in Bangladesh could go to jail so has to behave himself.

Washington and the Bangladeshi military are monitoring the situation closely and the behaviour of both the Awami League and Jamat (two former coalition partners).
 
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US and West do not want Indian influence in Bangladesh. It is only RAW and their paid agents who want to operate under cover of US patronage. The real agenda is to establish and solidify Indian influence, that is the target of all these mindless propaganda with irrelevant pictures and texts.
 
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What is funny is that in 1/11.

1. The Awami leader was arrested
2. The BNP leader and her sons were arrested too.

I can't remember anything happening to the Jamatis back then.

Now the Jamatis have faced imprisonment.

This shows any political leader in Bangladesh could go to jail so has to behave himself.

Washington and the Bangladeshi military are monitoring the situation closely and the behaviour of both the Awami League and Jamat (two former coalition partners).

To correct political unrest and to fulfill the demands of ppls' want we can have armed force rule for a short time. But that has to come with western countries' supports.
But we cant tolerate our growth is disturbed by armed forces. With that today situation military takeover is quite impossible for many reasons.
 
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To correct political unrest and to fulfill the demands of ppls' want we can have armed force rule for a short time. But that has to come with western countries' supports.
But we cant tolerate our growth is disturbed by armed forces. With that today situation military takeover is quite impossible for many reasons.

1. Professional militaries across the world frequently attend seminars and training courses and interact with other officers.
One consensus amongst most generals across the world is that the army should not run a country.

At the very most it should act as a strong powerful autonomous institution which acts as a restraining influence or vigilant monitor of any excesses or transgressions by civilian governments.

2. The Pakistan army for example has no appetite for coups partly due to frustration at being vilified so much for coups and damaging the country.

In this modern day and age a country having a coup or being run by the army is a source of shame including for the children of wealthy plutocrats from "3rd world countries" who attend glamorous western universities, i.e. the children of the elite who are being groomed to be the elite.

3. An army which runs state ministries or departments suffers in terms of its quality.

Organizational excellence requires that an organization specializes in a certain field and excel at it, by dedicating its resources and effort to its particular area of remit. If an army is dragged in to running ministries which may entail things such as making decisions about the Dhaka sewage system or rickshaw policies it deterioriates the army and over-exerts them and puts a strain on them.

4. The Bangladeshi military is a professional institution run by a well-educated officer corp who are fully convinced of the need for democratic civilian governance and that the army has no role in politics.

They will not carry out coups nor do they wish to.

However they will step in as a last resort to save the country from falling in to the abyss and will do so in concert with the United States, the world's most powerful state and the most powerful player in Bangladeshi politics (rather than India contrary to the endless propaganda we read on this forum).

5. If the military is forced to intervene again, then instead of a 2 year technocratic government as per last time the army having had recent experience of backing an interim civilian caretaker government (the Fakhruddin government) will do everything much quicker and more efficient.

We are looking at a 3 month, maybe 6 month period of rule at the most.

Depending on certain factors, this time the army may realize "minus two" (removal of the two Begums from politics).

There are also some other figures involved in this but I won't provide any detail but give their pictures.

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No he won't become ruler of our country, nor will Yunus or Mozena.

I can't go in to too much detail because some of what I know is confidential, but on a public level I can say he represents a wider generational change in Bangladeshi politics.

Bangladeshi society is changing and will continue to change in our life times, get ready for the changes.

- We are becoming more of an urban society.

- We have more media and information and are getting better informed.

- Our gender relationships are changing with more women entering the labour market.

Hasina, Khaleda, Ghulam Azam, Ershad and their acolytes in a few years will all be things of the past, alongside their (excluding Ershad) neuroses over the 71 war.

By the way just to add the fact that (as highlighted earlier, pictorally too) that the highest decision-makers in the land have been bought to account and have faced arrest and imprisonment highlights a strength in our society and politics. In many countries this would be unimaginable that the previous prime ministers of a state could both be arrested and imprisoned and then allowed to go. Maybe later I will expand on what it signifies.
 
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barristar andalib is a very clever person.he gained a bank licence lol .hasina is his aunt .we should not go with the hujug .he will loot more than BAL or BNP if he get the oppurtunity.well i want prof. yunus .he has a big stronghold with the us and the west. he is smart and he can lead us economicaly . i dont the army too even its personaly benificiary for me .i want a democratic secular bd without corruption .
Well he has gained some popularity but thats not enough to become a ruler of our country.
He can only hope to get a get a ministry under him.
What u r thinking ofwant him plz share.
 
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Andaleeb is charismatic, however I am in no way endorsing him or attacking him, he merely represents a newer generation of Bangladeshi politicians.

At this current juncture Yunus has no particular interest in getting involved politically.
 
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Is it not too late. All these happened in 1971, what was going on between then and now?
Most of the culprits will be dead by now.
 
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bro hitlar was charismatic too.he reunited the german youths and took germany in a great position.but his over greed finaly he destryed the germany.well i want someone normal .not some superhero.i talked to him personaly in a meeting .he is too cool but when i knew he gained the bank licence about 400 cr. taka. my respect just vapourised with in a min. 400 cr. taka is not a joke .
Andaleeb is charismatic, however I am in no way endorsing him or attacking him, he merely represents a newer generation of Bangladeshi politicians.

At this current juncture Yunus has no particular interest in getting involved politically.
 
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Bangladeshi Army uniform remind me of Peshawar police :P
 
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