Economic Bloodbath on a Colossal Scale?

[Enigma SIG]

na na na kiddo

dont run away now

answer my question,

im a wholeseller, i make 50 , 60 sales a day , someone hands me a fake NIC , ? what will i do ?

i need an answer,!

MNC's selling goods to departmental stores demand NTN numbers; and that is mentioned on their sale receipts.

Don't know what the problem really with wholesellers really is. They really want to be undocumented for obvious reasons.

A proper system for this doesn't currently exist but it is not out of the ordinary to demand NTN from retailers.

One possible solution could be an app provided by the government which is capable of entering sales against registered NTN's/NICs. Validity of said documents could be checked on the fly within the app. Not so hard at all.

 

[blueazure]

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I'm Not Going Anywhere Son I've Been Here Far Longer Than You Facing Trolls Far Worse Than You

So You're Such A Simpleton That You Don't Know The Name Nor Recognize The Face Of You're Supplier or Purchaser and You'll Accept Any ID???And You're Suppliers and Purchasers Change Everyday So It's Hard To Keep Track????BS

Oh and BTW Tell Me Don't Wholesalers and Retailers In Countries With Tax to GDP Ratios Much Higher Than Us(US Europe Even India).How Do They Get Them To Document????Simple:Incentives To Document Plus Full Force Of The Law If They Don't

Don't Tell Me They Can't Hire A Bookkeeper.A Kid With A Simple B.Com/D.Com Heck Even An I.com Can Do It


These Leeches and Parasites You're SO Sympathetic With I Challenge To Set Up Their Shops In UK And Try To Blackmail The HMRC The Way They're Doing To FBR.Change My Name If The're Stinking Asses Don't Get Thrown In Jail

1. as of today , only 14 percent lahore wholesellers are taking NICs. rest are still on cash . this is data from packages group bookies who supply 14000 shops in lahore . tell this to mr accountant shabbar zaidi .

2. NIC fraud is the most common fraud in pakistan and is virtually unstoppable. how will i check and verify each and every transaction with face matching ?

why would i move to UK ? i dont care what happens in UK , LOL

im in pakistan and run my business here


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last month, i made a cash deal of 8 MT plastic scrape. i sold it locally in lahore , we settled the payment in cash and gave 0 tax ( on a payment of 8 lacs )

aa k pakar lo mujhe

MNC's selling goods to departmental stores demand NTN numbers; and that is mentioned on their sale receipts.

Don't know what the problem really with wholesellers really is. They really want to be undocumented for obvious reasons.

A proper system for this doesn't currently exist but it is not out of the ordinary to demand NTN from retailers.

One possible solution could be an app provided by the government which is capable of entering sales against registered NTN's/NICs. Validity of said documents could be checked on the fly within the app. Not so hard at all.

my friend

im in the field

i do business with wholesellers daily ,its my daily job

shabbar zaidi is basically running like a headless chicken and has no clue about ground realities ,

unless you ban cash , none of the above you mention is possible

 

[Enigma SIG]

unless you ban cash , none of the above you mention is possible

True to some extent. Pakistan should move towards digital payment systems. Nearly every other phone is equipped with an NFC chip.
However; documentation has to start somewhere and opposition to reforms is just dishonesty towards the country.

 

[Samlee]

your IQ 40 jahalat is evident from the post and its really comical . now let me drill some education in your head mr accountant


1. as of today , only 14 percent lahore wholesellers are taking NICs. rest are still on cash . this is data from packages group bookies who supply 14000 shops in lahore . tell this to mr accountant shabbar zaidi .

2. NIC fraud is the most common fraud in pakistan and is virtually unstoppable. how will i check and verify each and every transaction with face matching ?

why would i move to UK ? i dont care what happens in UK , LOL

im in pakistan and run my business here


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last month, i made a cash deal of 8 MT plastic scrape. i sold it locally in lahore , we settled the payment in cash and gave 0 tax ( on a payment of 8 lacs )

aa k pakar lo mujhe




my friend

im in the field

Good You Have Now Admitted You Are One Of Those Freeloading Parasites Who Want Every Facility From The State But Are Not Willing To Pay Taxes.

Fact Is You Are Just A Criminal Who Doesn't Want To Get Documented.You Haven't Answered A Single Question of Mine Just Continued Your Pathetic Rants

Off Course You Won't Move To UK Thieves Like You Won't Last An Hour In A Place Where There Is Rule Of Law

 

[Shah Khalid]

1. as of today , only 14 percent lahore wholesellers are taking NICs. rest are still on cash . this is data from packages group bookies who supply 14000 shops in lahore . tell this to mr accountant shabbar zaidi .

2. NIC fraud is the most common fraud in pakistan and is virtually unstoppable. how will i check and verify each and every transaction with face matching ?

why would i move to UK ? i dont care what happens in UK , LOL

im in pakistan and run my business here


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last month, i made a cash deal of 8 MT plastic scrape. i sold it locally in lahore , we settled the payment in cash and gave 0 tax ( on a payment of 8 lacs )

aa k pakar lo mujhe

So you admit you are a tax thief no wonder

I believe in everything you have said,there is no need to focus on economy.The people,the businesses,the traders and the Investors are having the time of their lives. Lets get back to our cloud cuckoo lala lands.

Since you are fond of cherry picking data why don't i do you better

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504945

 

[Samlee]

Ah Noony toons sorry souls so many scars

born b'coz their mommy got ***** during a drunken orgy at a dance party




So you admit you are a tax thief no wonder

Check His Other Posts He Is Not Only A Tax Evader He Is Even A Money Launderer

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/international-payment-gateway-in-pakistan.635010/#post-11763265

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/international-payment-gateway-in-pakistan.635010/#post-11763237

I Have Reported Him To The Admins And Have Also Asked Them To Report His IP Address To The Concerned Authorities For Action

 

[VCheng]

At heart of most problems in Pakistan is the lop-sided Civ-Mil dynamic. It is poisonous, counter-productive, divisive, & main reason for negative perception of Pakistan in the wider world. As the story of last five years shows, Pakistan will not get any where if likes of IK are promoted by vested interests!

It is long overdue to recognize that Pakistan's system has evolved, due to many reasons, to be military rule, whether directly or by proxy. Please note that I am not criticizing this fact in any way, merely recognizing it. One must use this frame of reference when discussing anything about Pakistan and its future direction, since this is not going to change for the foreseeable future.

 

[Shah Khalid]

Check His Other Posts He Is Not Only A Tax Evader He Is Even A Money Launderer

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/international-payment-gateway-in-pakistan.635010/#post-11763265

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/international-payment-gateway-in-pakistan.635010/#post-11763237

I Have Reported Him To The Admins And Have Also Asked Them To Report His IP Address To The Concerned Authorities For Action

It's traitors like him that are the reason why our country is in FATF and begging to IMF and USA

The height of shamelessness that he proudly admits to his crimes

We don't need enemies like India when these pieces of shit are in our country

 

[B.K.N]

Anqareeb To Apne Najaiz Abu Ke Saath Kot Lakhpat Me Ho Ga

Imran Khan once said in ki chekhain niklain gi main rulaon ga inhain
And you can see at this thread how these corrupt business men are crying
apnay Abba Nawaz ki bari yad aa rhi hai inhain

 

[Shah Khalid]

half of my family is in UK , go there every summers

never liked the place, pathetic little country full of desi scum like you

Off course you don't like UK.You can't cheat on your taxes you can't steal electricity you actually have to pay for the facilities you get.

Yeah just not a place for crooks like you

 

[Mav3rick]

It's traitors like him that are the reason why our country is in FATF and begging to IMF and USA

If you really want to know the reason why Pakistan is in FATF GREY list, you mere need to look closely at the dawnleaks scandal. The most immediate and damning reason for the GREY listing is Hafiz Saeed and he was NOT being protected by the PML Government.

 

[Dubious]

@MUSTAKSHAF and @Samlee please dont fight in the open otherwise...please put each other on ignore list

@blueazure please mind your language!
No name calling, no calling anyone a scum!

 

[Samlee]

If you really want to know the reason why Pakistan is in FATF GREY list, you mere need to look closely at the dawnleaks scandal. The most immediate and damning reason for the GREY listing is Hafiz Saeed and he was NOT being protected by the PML Government.

How Can I Forget Dawnleaks At A Time When Our Soldiers Were Fighting Terrorists N League Decided To Stab Them In The Back And Plant A Story That Made Them Look Like Bad Guys.It Was Dawnleaks That Gave USA and India The Excuse To Get Us Greylisted

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

How Can I Forget Dawnleaks At A Time When Our Soldiers Were Fighting Terrorists N League Decided To Stab Them In The Back And Plant A Story That Made Them Look Like Bad Guys.It Was Dawnleaks That Gave USA and India The Excuse To Get Us Greylisted

I absolutely respect your opinion even if we are differing on matters of governance and economic management. They say"two people look through the same bars one sees the mud and one the stars".It depends whether you see a glass filled with half water or others just see the half empty bit. I sincerely pray that the economic woes of our mutual motherland are sorted asap. There are few good signs of improvement at the macro level but at the micro level it is a complete disaster. A brother/friend like most of us here felt this ANGUISH below which i think most us do feel,even if they are still denying it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173106877124816896

I am sorry if i hurt your feelings!!!!



Regarding Dawn leaks IK said things far worst than that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173185532983152640

 

[Mav3rick]

How Can I Forget Dawnleaks At A Time When Our Soldiers Were Fighting Terrorists N League Decided To Stab Them In The Back And Plant A Story That Made Them Look Like Bad Guys.It Was Dawnleaks That Gave USA and India The Excuse To Get Us Greylisted

Not really, that's how the story was spun by the powers that be. It has been a long time demand of FATF that we take action against Hafiz Saeed and his businesses (as he is globally recognized as a terrorist). However, Mr. Hafiz Saeed has the protection of certain quarters due to which the Government could not move against him and this fact was made no secret at the meeting between the powers and the Government; dawnleaks were actual news which should have been censored but was possibly leaked to the public to make them aware of who was responsible for the inevitable GREY listing.

It is prudent to place blame where it is genuinely deserved rather than to just place it based on your political affiliations.