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East Pakistani Soldiers during Operation Searchlight

It is easy for people to blame on hindsight.

Put yourself in the shoes of Niazi and realise his problems.

The PAF had been blown out of the sky.

The East Pakistan Rifles had rebelled and were fighting against the Pakistani and they knew everything about the Pakistan force, their deployment, their arms, the profile of the COs and their temperament.

The Indian Army was rapidly advancing and the Para Brigade had been paradropped.

No reinforcement from Pakistan.

The Mukti Bahini all over with none knowing who is a Mukti Bahini or a normal civilian.

It was a real difficult time for Niazi!

I am looking at the situation of Niazi totally from a military standpoint and beyond emotions and totally clinically.

In the India Today Magazine (January or February, 2011) there was an interview of Gen. Jacob about '71 war.
There he made praiseworthy comments about Niazi.
I don't have the copy or I could inform details. :cheers:
 
1.I wish to narrate one incident going back to 25 Mar. Lieut Col J J Dean was a 4 Baloch officer posted to command 27 Baloch at Jessore on promotion. A superb gentleman and a fine human being of Sialkot origin. A day before the crack-down he along with other COs were called to Bde Comd's conference where they were ordered to eliminate all Benglaee officers and troops under command.

2. Under a new scheme, 27 Baloch had just acquired a platoon of Bengalee troops. The first thing Dean did upon return to his unit was to call the Bengalee troops to see him. He simply asked them to go off on leave immediately. With the atmosphere already charged the soldiers understood and left in no time.

3. Next day Comdr called Dean and sought his explanation. Dean simply said, these were his sons and any order asking him to kill them in cold blood was unlawful. Therefore, what he did was the right thing. Dean was withdrawn immediately and posted back to W Pak.

4. Similar thing happened in PAF where the AOC E Pak had refused to use air force in IS role against own citizens. He was also withdrawn.
 
Any details how China allowed PA into Burma and resupplied it.

Burma, was and is not a part of China and so it would be interesting to know.

If the PA withdrew to Burma, it would mean that without a fight they left East Pakistan to the Indian Army.

Given the terrain in Bangladesh, it is easier to defend than attack.

Which the orgy-loving general niazi could have.. had he any military sense.
 
Which the orgy-loving general niazi could have.. had he any military sense.
I even read in some Book ( Can't remember the name - I think it was written by some colonel or maybe it was Hamodur-Rehman Comission) Anyhow General Niazi was enjoying oral services of some bengali women in bunker when Indians were attacking us and General Niazi was also running a prostitution ring - Transferring girls from EP to WP).
 
I even read in some Book ( Can't remember the name - I think it was written by some colonel or maybe it was Hamodur-Rehman Comission) Anyhow General Niazi was enjoying oral services of some bengali women in bunker when Indians were attacking us and General Niazi was also running a prostitution ring - Transferring girls from EP to WP).

and yahya khan was reportedly romping with "madam"...
If it doesnt make your blood boil with anger... n tears at those who were led by such pigs.. nay.. pigs is too good a word for them.
 
If not for the indian intervention , BD would never be a free country .

PA would have destroyed Mukhi Bahini and renegade EP in short duration of time .

We saw how Srilanka finally manage to squash and destroy LTTE taking its own time.

In case PA, it was far more stronger , resourceful and merciless to quail the Bengali rebellion in few years of time in the absence of direct indian intervention.
 
and yahya khan was reportedly romping with "madam"...
If it doesnt make your blood boil with anger... n tears at those who were led by such pigs.. nay.. pigs is too good a word for them.
Yeah the President House visitor log was filled with entries by Noor Jahan (Log was Published in Commission).What i fail to understand what the proud core commanders were doing.They could have done something.I always thought people like General Gul Hassan were professional (My grandfather was his ADC and always had good words for him.I think my grandfather was just impressed by Gul Hassan personality)but i guess i was wrong..if they were professional they would have taken the responsibly and ousted Yahya.There is another chapter on Yahya where it is mentioned that just after loss of East Pakistan Shah of Iran visited Pakistan and Yahya almost broke protocol because when Shah arrived at Presidential Building Yahya was half drunk and having sex with some lady but he managed to finish quickly and meet Shah.
 
Yeah the President House visitor log was filled with entries by Noor Jahan (Log was Published in Commission).What i fail to understand what the proud core commanders were doing.They could have done something.I always thought people like General Gul Hassan were professional (My grandfather was his ADC and always had good words for him.I think my grandfather was just impressed by Gul Hassan personality)but i guess i was wrong..if they were professional they would have taken the responsibly and ousted Yahya.There is another chapter on Yahya where it is mentioned that just after loss of East Pakistan Shah of Iran visited Pakistan and Yahya almost broke protocol because when Shah arrived at Presidential Building Yahya was half drunk and having sex with some lady but he managed to finish quickly and meet Shah.

All top generals were part of this coterie..
In their view.. they were leading an army that had "conquered" a nation through martial law.
This was a mafia and they were out to have fun.
 
Yahya khan seems amazingly debouch to be the head of the army of Islamic republic of Pakistan .

He used to have nude parties where men and women used to undress and engage in orgies . Hard to believe .
 
Yahya khan seems amazingly debouch to be the head of the army of Islamic republic of Pakistan .

He used to have nude parties where men and women used to undress and engage in orgies . Hard to believe .

Sends shivers down the spine of Pakistani's that know.. and perhaps some Indians as well.
If they figured out what other delusional folks were leading Pakistan when we got the nukes.
 
It is said in hamood ur rehman report tht niazi handed over his "loaded" handgun to aurora................................. if he has some shame he would have shot aurora or himself.


He should have regrouped in burma .. get re-equiped with help frm china and fought for just another week! and by the time ceasefire would have been ordered n east wing would have been saved.

@ By reading all the books available in Bangladesh (Many books of Pakistani generals are not available in Bangladesh) about our liberation war, I think, the Pakistan Army lost all hope specially all Muhajir officers of Pakistan Army and they broke even some Generals(Rao Ferman Ali) were making advance liaison with the American Embassy.

@ Pakistan Army's re-capturing of whole East Pakistan within a short spun of time was really a praise worthy and definitely the credit goes to General Niazi but unfortunately he was not treated fairly at his home.

@ During the whole operation Pakistan Army also had substantial number of public support among the Bengalees. But the problem was there was no political direction from the center. You see, the whole "Chakma Tribe" including their Raja Tridev Rai supported the Pakistan Army whole heartedly. Moreso, during that time the whole Mizo Brigade including Lal Denga was stationed at Rangamati. Infact, the Mukti Bahini could not do anything in Chittagong Hill Tracts during the whole nine months. After the surrender, the Indian "Kilo" force under command of General Oban immediadely rushed to Chittagong Hill Tract to netralise them.

@ Al-Badre, Al-Shams and Razakars also fought side by side with the Pakistani forces but the main problem was with the Pakistani Army that they hardly use to believe these Bengalee forces. I read in a book, once on 16 December 1971 once the Pakistani Army surrendered but yet the Al-Badre at Kishorganj did not accept the surrender they continue to fight with the Indian Army along with the Mukti Bahini kept it free for another 48 hours.

@ I have seen the liberation war, to tell you frankly, the Mukti Bahini hardly could harm the Pakistani Forces other than disrupting the line of communications and killing the pro-Pakistani politicians. Ofcource, it crippled the morale of Pakistani Forces to a great extend.

@ Finally, I think, there was something wrong about the surrender signal from GHQ. Yahya also said that he did not ordered or signed any signal for surrender rather he gave the final authority to Niazi to take action as per his discreation. Niazi said he received a direct surrender signal from GHQ signed by Yahya. I also hard from my relative who was at that time serving in GHQ, Rawalpindi that on 17 December 1971, there were lot of confusion regarding this in GHQ itself. The signal might have manipulated either by the Indian agents or by the higher echelon of Pakistan Army who were not interested to continue the war.
 
It is a canard to state that the Pakistani Army did not made a stand!

They fought well given the circumstances.

Let us not do the Pakistan Army down to serve an agenda!

Md Akram insults Bangladeshis as also the Pakistan army and the Mohajirs!
 
One of my uncle who died last month was deployed in 1971 war at Bhawalnagar sector on the west pakistan border (at that time) and told me that we were fighting at two fronts half of the soldiers were fighting the indians and half were deployed to lookafter the East pakistani (Bangali) soldiers as there weapons were taken away from them in order to avoid any risks of their fifth column factor and not letting them flee away.
 
Yeah the President House visitor log was filled with entries by Noor Jahan (Log was Published in Commission).What i fail to understand what the proud core commanders were doing.They could have done something.I always thought people like General Gul Hassan were professional (My grandfather was his ADC and always had good words for him.I think my grandfather was just impressed by Gul Hassan personality)but i guess i was wrong..if they were professional they would have taken the responsibly and ousted Yahya.There is another chapter on Yahya where it is mentioned that just after loss of East Pakistan Shah of Iran visited Pakistan and Yahya almost broke protocol because when Shah arrived at Presidential Building Yahya was half drunk and having sex with some lady but he managed to finish quickly and meet Shah.

Jesus Christ man, that is really ****ed up.
 
@ By reading all the books available in Bangladesh (Many books of Pakistani generals are not available in Bangladesh) about our liberation war, I think, the Pakistan Army lost all hope specially all Muhajir officers of Pakistan Army and they broke even some Generals(Rao Ferman Ali) were making advance liaison with the American Embassy.

@ Pakistan Army's re-capturing of whole East Pakistan within a short spun of time was really a praise worthy and definitely the credit goes to General Niazi but unfortunately he was not treated fairly at his home.

@ During the whole operation Pakistan Army also had substantial number of public support among the Bengalees. But the problem was there was no political direction from the center. You see, the whole "Chakma Tribe" including their Raja Tridev Rai supported the Pakistan Army whole heartedly. Moreso, during that time the whole Mizo Brigade including Lal Denga was stationed at Rangamati. Infact, the Mukti Bahini could not do anything in Chittagong Hill Tracts during the whole nine months. After the surrender, the Indian "Kilo" force under command of General Oban immediadely rushed to Chittagong Hill Tract to netralise them.

@ Al-Badre, Al-Shams and Razakars also fought side by side with the Pakistani forces but the main problem was with the Pakistani Army that they hardly use to believe these Bengalee forces. I read in a book, once on 16 December 1971 once the Pakistani Army surrendered but yet the Al-Badre at Kishorganj did not accept the surrender they continue to fight with the Indian Army along with the Mukti Bahini kept it free for another 48 hours.

@ I have seen the liberation war, to tell you frankly, the Mukti Bahini hardly could harm the Pakistani Forces other than disrupting the line of communications and killing the pro-Pakistani politicians. Ofcource, it crippled the morale of Pakistani Forces to a great extend.

@ Finally, I think, there was something wrong about the surrender signal from GHQ. Yahya also said that he did not ordered or signed any signal for surrender rather he gave the final authority to Niazi to take action as per his discreation. Niazi said he received a direct surrender signal from GHQ signed by Yahya. I also hard from my relative who was at that time serving in GHQ, Rawalpindi that on 17 December 1971, there were lot of confusion regarding this in GHQ itself. The signal might have manipulated either by the Indian agents or by the higher echelon of Pakistan Army who were not interested to continue the war.

So cutting off communications and killing pro-pakistani politician got us our independence:coffee: ??? You read about books where Al-Badre kept Mukti Bahini at bay for another 48 hours after independence. But have you read books which mentions that our Mukti bahini captured pakistani army posts, protected villages, carried out daring attacks?? Have you read about our mukti bahini naval commandos that Sunk or damaged 17+ vessels of the pakistani navy? Have you read about Shamsul Alam who flew a dilapidated Otter from Kailashahor of India and destroyed a heavyly guarded oil depot at night,without a navigation system near Chittagong seaport on December 4 to stop fuel supply to the Pakistani occupation forces?

If you have read these then you wouldnt have made such a statement. You claim that you watched the liberation war, however i think you turned a blind eye to the bravery shown by our men :angry:
 

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