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Duterte: US troops should stay out of Mindanao
'I do not want a rift with America but they have to go,' says President Duterte
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Pia Ranada
@piaranada
Published 5:34 PM, September 12, 2016
Updated 5:34 PM, September 12, 2016

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MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte said he does not want the presence of US Special Forces in Mindanao.

"Kaya 'yang mga special forces (Those special forces), they have to go. They have to go. In Mindanao, maraming mga puti doon (there are lots of white people there)," Duterte said during a speech in front of new appointees on Monday, September 12, in Malacañang Palace.

Duterte said this after presenting images of United States operations in Mindanao at the start of the 20th century in which American troops were bent on pacifying Moro rebels. The President showed images from a "US archive" of US soldiers violently killing Moro rebels.

After mentioning the US "special forces," Duterte said he has long wanted to "review foreign policy."

"'Di ko lang masalita noon (I just couldn't say so) out of respect or I do not want a rift with America but they have to go," he added.



Deactivated

The Joint Special Operations Task Force-Philippines (JSOTF-P) was a contingent of US troops, including Special Forces, that was set up to fight terrorism in the Philippines in 2002.

But it was deactivated in February 2015. Its mission was "to advise and assist Philippine security forces at the tactical, operational and strategic levels against violent extremist organizations throughout the southern Philippines," according to the US embassy.

A small group of US soldiers have stayed in the Philippines to help the Philippine military and police in their operations against the Abu Sayyaf and terrorists. Some of them, for example, had helped gather intelligence that led to the Mamasapano operation in 2015 against alleged Malaysian bomb-maker Zulkifli bin Hir alias Marwan, according to high-level government sources. The operation killed Marwan and 44 elite cops.

The US troops have a rotating presence in the region as part of the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) which the Philippine government signed with the US government.

Duterte previously said he would implement the EDCA after the Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality.



'It will get more tense'

Duterte also seemed to say that the presence of American soldiers in Mindanao would make the situation there more tense. Though no American soldier has been held captive by the Abu Sayyaf, Duterte seemed to say American soldiers would be prime hostage targets for the terrorist group.

"Mas lalong iinit. Pag makakita ng Amerikano, papatayin talaga 'yan. Kukuha ng ransom, papatayin. Even if you're black or white American, basta Amerikano," said Duterte.

(I didn't say anything before out of respect or I do not want a rift with American but they have to go. It will get more tense. If they see an American, they will really be killed. They will demand ransom, they will kill them. Even if you're black or white, as long as you're American.)



'No peace'

In another part of his speech, Duterte said the US' violent pacification in Mindanao continues to stir unrest in the southern island.

"Look at the bodies there. Paano tayo, paano mag-hold-up (How will things hold up). For as long as we stay with American, we will hever have peace in that land. We might as well give it up."

Duterte's statement on US soldiers comes after the President's participation at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Summit where regional security and anti-terrorism efforts were among the topics discussed.

During the summit, Duterte also came face-to-face with US President Barack Obama who had earlier been one of the subjects of his controversial rant against the US.

Duterte has never hesitated to express his disdain for Western imperialism. When he was Davao City mayor, he had rejected the presence of US troops in his city.

During the ASEAN Summit, Duterte also showed images of US' violent pacification campaign in Mindanao, a move that "shocked" and left silent a room of diplomats and regional leaders. – Rappler.com

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More -> http://www.rappler.com/nation/145981-duterte-united-states-special-forces-mindanao
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One more proof that the Americans are in trouble with their allies. It is getting from bad to worse. The list of disenchanted allies is also getting longer and longer.
It's just Duterte's government.
After Duterte's death or next government,
Pinoys like Cossack25a1 will vote a gentle president to remain the harmony.
 
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Duterte: US troops should stay out of Mindanao
'I do not want a rift with America but they have to go,' says President Duterte
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Pia Ranada
@piaranada
Published 5:34 PM, September 12, 2016
Updated 5:34 PM, September 12, 2016

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MANILA, Philippines – President Rodrigo Duterte said he does not want the presence of US Special Forces in Mindanao.

"Kaya 'yang mga special forces (Those special forces), they have to go. They have to go. In Mindanao, maraming mga puti doon (there are lots of white people there)," Duterte said during a speech in front of new appointees on Monday, September 12, in Malacañang Palace.

Duterte said this after presenting images of United States operations in Mindanao at the start of the 20th century in which American troops were bent on pacifying Moro rebels. The President showed images from a "US archive" of US soldiers violently killing Moro rebels.

After mentioning the US "special forces," Duterte said he has long wanted to "review foreign policy."

"'Di ko lang masalita noon (I just couldn't say so) out of respect or I do not want a rift with America but they have to go," he added.



Deactivated

The Joint Special Operations Task Force-Philippines (JSOTF-P) was a contingent of US troops, including Special Forces, that was set up to fight terrorism in the Philippines in 2002.

But it was deactivated in February 2015. Its mission was "to advise and assist Philippine security forces at the tactical, operational and strategic levels against violent extremist organizations throughout the southern Philippines," according to the US embassy.

A small group of US soldiers have stayed in the Philippines to help the Philippine military and police in their operations against the Abu Sayyaf and terrorists. Some of them, for example, had helped gather intelligence that led to the Mamasapano operation in 2015 against alleged Malaysian bomb-maker Zulkifli bin Hir alias Marwan, according to high-level government sources. The operation killed Marwan and 44 elite cops.

The US troops have a rotating presence in the region as part of the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) which the Philippine government signed with the US government.

Duterte previously said he would implement the EDCA after the Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality.



'It will get more tense'

Duterte also seemed to say that the presence of American soldiers in Mindanao would make the situation there more tense. Though no American soldier has been held captive by the Abu Sayyaf, Duterte seemed to say American soldiers would be prime hostage targets for the terrorist group.

"Mas lalong iinit. Pag makakita ng Amerikano, papatayin talaga 'yan. Kukuha ng ransom, papatayin. Even if you're black or white American, basta Amerikano," said Duterte.

(I didn't say anything before out of respect or I do not want a rift with American but they have to go. It will get more tense. If they see an American, they will really be killed. They will demand ransom, they will kill them. Even if you're black or white, as long as you're American.)



'No peace'

In another part of his speech, Duterte said the US' violent pacification in Mindanao continues to stir unrest in the southern island.

"Look at the bodies there. Paano tayo, paano mag-hold-up (How will things hold up). For as long as we stay with American, we will hever have peace in that land. We might as well give it up."

Duterte's statement on US soldiers comes after the President's participation at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Summit where regional security and anti-terrorism efforts were among the topics discussed.

During the summit, Duterte also came face-to-face with US President Barack Obama who had earlier been one of the subjects of his controversial rant against the US.

Duterte has never hesitated to express his disdain for Western imperialism. When he was Davao City mayor, he had rejected the presence of US troops in his city.

During the ASEAN Summit, Duterte also showed images of US' violent pacification campaign in Mindanao, a move that "shocked" and left silent a room of diplomats and regional leaders. – Rappler.com

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More -> http://www.rappler.com/nation/145981-duterte-united-states-special-forces-mindanao
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I like this guy more and more everyday. He is like a gem. China shouldn't spoil the gem by pushing for scarborough shoals now. Everything has a time. Right now what's best for China is to polish this gem and make it more visible in the world.
 
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American need to just need to endure the humiliation pour out from Pinoy president. They need Philippine to spearhead their SCS anti China campaign at all cost. :enjoy:

But I guess that will not be long.

I like this guy more and more everyday. He is like a gem. China shouldn't spoil the gem by pushing for scarborough shoals now. Everything has a time. Right now what's best for China is to polish this gem and make it more visible in the world.
Duterte is wise that few pieces of rock and sea is not worth all the goodies China is going to help Philippine progress into the 21th century. China will make Philippine modern if Duterte fully embrace China. Scarborough shoal will vanished and Huangyan dao will exist. :enjoy:

I would say now is the right time to strike a deal with Duterte.
 
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Duterte is my man! No country can be considered as independent with foreign bases located in their own soils.

We also need to get the rid of US base and NATO centers and then leave NATO altogether! But of course for that to happen we need to build a modern self-sustaining military and air-defense web altogether, all of which will not happen at least until 2040.
 
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Well I said wait until he starts calling for US troop pullouts before declaring, and he is doing it, so it looks like he truly is looking to have the Philippines go it alone or sees more benefit to being a client state of China's.



Well it's their prerogative, but it didn't work out so well last time. 2nd times the charm? Hopefully the Philippines won't lose more Islands to China, and hopefully the economic incentives Duterte sees materialize.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...s-china-building-disputed-shoal/#.V9bAYfkrKUk

If China is smart they will reciprocate to cement the feelings that the US is not needed, but I suspect domestic nationalism will eventually force the Chinese to annex the Islands it has claimed as its territory.
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Will continue watching with interest to see if i'm making too much of it, the optics are really bad though if this wasn't intended to be a showcase of what is to come.

It's a setback for US policy in the region if the Philippines turns hostile, but we've been able to operate without basing in the Philippines before, and we'll do so again if we must. Our ability to project in the region is far from endangered yet, and there are plenty of other countries that still want us there.
 
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It is time for the USA to return to a tactical isolationism. Only stand with and help other countries that share our values and appreciate our friendship . American Juche! Rebuild our nation and invest in our own people.
 
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It is time for the USA to return to a tactical isolationism. Only stand with and help other countries that share our values and appreciate our friendship . American Juche! Rebuild our nation and invest in our own people.

Is that a soundbite from Trump's speech? I like the isolationism part. Trump is a hypocrite though. He speaks with a double tongue. He won't be able to deliver on more than half of his promises. Right now, the rednecks think they have found a messiah. Wait till Trump gets into office (if he ever makes it of course) and starts showing his true colors. The rednecks are in for a very rude awakening.
 
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It is time for the USA to return to a tactical isolationism. Only stand with and help other countries that share our values and appreciate our friendship . American Juche! Rebuild our nation and invest in our own people.

I won't go so far as that. We shouldn't move to that strategy unless we absolutely have to because that increases the likelihood of problems coming to our shore because we weren't proactive in dealing with them. We shouldn't wait until the fire gets to our house, we have to snuff it out at the house down the block at least, but preferably in the brush. Nuclear weapons aren't a cure-all for everything after all.

That said If the Philippines is truly set on resetting its relations with the US to a more neutral setting, then we should accept that, reciprocate, and end the MDT.

Those sorts of treaties are meant for allies and strategic partners, not neutral countries.
 
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Who cares if US GIs are present in PH? Does anyone really believe that US would fight a full scale war with China only for the sake of PH?
 
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Well I said wait until he starts calling for US troop pullouts before declaring, and he is doing it, so it looks like he truly is looking to have the Philippines go it alone or sees more benefit to being a client state of China's.



Well it's their prerogative, but it didn't work out so well last time. 2nd times the charm? Hopefully the Philippines won't lose more Islands to China, and hopefully the economic incentives Duterte sees materialize.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...s-china-building-disputed-shoal/#.V9bAYfkrKUk

If China is smart they will reciprocate to cement the feelings that the US is not needed, but I suspect domestic nationalism will eventually force the Chinese to annex the Islands it has claimed as its territory.
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Will continue watching with interest to see if i'm making too much of it, the optics are really bad though if this wasn't intended to be a showcase of what is to come.

It's a setback for US policy in the region if the Philippines turns hostile, but we've been able to operate without basing in the Philippines before, and we'll do so again if we must. Our ability to project in the region is far from endangered yet, and there are plenty of other countries that still want us there.

Another scare tactic by american. Your trick is old. Duterte want solid incentives like hospital , train, aprtment , power station, bridge and tunnel to be build and modernise Philippine. Giving a few million will no more working. Save your breadth! USA is a decaying nation :lol:
 
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