Dubai - United Arab Emirates (Feast your eyes)

[Gomig-21]

ok newer articles mention the new owners https://www.evergreenhdg.com/about/

The Indian fella?

 

[Trango Towers]

More than the concrete. More than the skyscrapers. More than the 10 lane motorways. I am more impressed by something else. Indeed I am jealous. I notice you have white people half dressed chilling on the beach, I notice blonde lady showing her sexy legs, I notice you have very religious people, I notice you have Israeli Jews chilling, I notice you have ignorant Pakistani's working. Yet despite all this diversity you have peace and tolerance. That is what I respect.

How come nobody is jearing or learing or blowing up those semi-naked women? How come nobody is doing a Daniel Pearl on the Israeli's? How come mullahs have not gathered their mobs and rampaging, blocking the downtown area because they scream "Islam under threat".

That diversity and cosmopolitan culture you have nurtured is what makes UAE a star in the desert. Much respect from a very jealous person because there is no such tolerance or diversity in Pakistan.

@Abu Dhabi

Wow you have changed your tune? Only a day or so I told you to calm down because your were harsh in your views re recognising Israel and here you are looking forward to naked Jewish women on Emirati beaches. WOW...I Did tell you I have seen people like you and when push comes to shove.....and here it is

 

[HAIDER]

The Indian fella?

Indian raid ...

 

[KurtisBrian]

Food prices increasing and people consider living in a desert is a good idea. I guess if you like the people you will like the place. If you don't like the people you won't like the place.

 

[Abu Dhabi]

its all because surety of punishment prevent crime.

الحمدلله ، الله يديم نعمة الامن والأمان

the law is clear and harsh. No mercy. Big deterrent to anyone who thinks of acting against society norms

Food prices increasing and people consider living in a desert is a good idea. I guess if you like the people you will like the place. If you don't like the people you won't like the place.

When in Dubai or Sharjah or Abu Dhabi, you would never know you were in a desert country. Yes life here is good Al hamdulelah. Everything is modern , clean and developed. Services are incredible , fast and mostly online. Then again , nothing wrong with the beautiful desert. I notice Pakistanis and Iranians keep referring to "the desert" like its a bad thing xD especially when both those countries are mostly desert and arid lands

 

[Indus Pakistan]

ow you have changed your tune?

Did I now? I have been a PDF member since 2010. From my earliests posts you would see I always was for Pakistan to recognize Israel. The single greatest, the single most beneficial thing Pakistan could with one signature is recognize Israel. For those of us who live in the West and are prepared to look at things obkectively are actutely aware of Jewish influence. It's here in UK, it's there in USA and it is spread all over the West. In fact they use the term Judo-Christian civilization to mean the West.

In media, in think tanks, in governments the Jews are there. Any country that decides to target Israe faces this vast Jewish lobby. Iran is a good example. Iran gets thrashed and lashed in every Western country you can imagine. The Western governments are always apologetic to Israel. In other words there is every thing to gain but nothing to lose. Not recognition of Israel will do nothing for Palestinians. The countries that matter have mostly already accepted Israel. These reasons and more are why UAE and others finally decided. It must not have been easy because they are Arabs but still common sense prevailed. I guess that is why UAE is what it is and I credited it earlier with @Abu Dhabi

So I will say it what I said on PDF [I have always going back to 1980s felt Pakistan should recognize like Egypt did] and I will say it again. Pakistan needs to recognize Isrel. If you saw me being sarcastic that was because I was taking the piss at the "no" brigade.

 

[Gomig-21]

So I will say it what I said on PDF [I have always going back to 1980s felt Pakistan should recognize like Egypt did]

Everything you said in your post is spot on, IMO. And in Egypt's case like you just mentioned there, Sadat realized and recognized this fact even before the October war of 1973. He went into that war with a clear objective that once it was over, he would be able to bring the US into the Egyptian camp because he realized long time ago that Israel was essentially the 51st state of America. Fighting it -- and even beating it in some cases -- only offers minimal objectives. Recognizing is much more beneficial.

A quick reminder - in 1977 when Sadat was ready to offer peace, it was in return for a just solution to the Arab Israeli conflict which was to bring the Palestinians to the table to also negotiate their rights THAT EGYPT FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IN 3 DIFFERENT WARS and that would've brought them just about inches of pre-1967 borders.......and they refused. So did Syria and the whole gang chastised Egypt for that move. Looking back at the opportunity of the time and now, I wonder how many Arab brothers and sisters would've made a different choice?

Sorry @Abu Dhabi for the temporary off topic post but in many ways, it kinda relates to what the UAE is doing regarding the same matter.

 

[Trango Towers]

Did I now? I have been a PDF member since 2010. From my earliests posts you would see I always was for Pakistan to recognize Israel. The single greatest, the single most beneficial thing Pakistan could with one signature is recognize Israel. For those of us who live in the West and are prepared to look at things obkectively are actutely aware of Jewish influence. It's here in UK, it's there in USA and it is spread all over the West. In fact they use the term Judo-Christian civilization to mean the West.

In media, in think tanks, in governments the Jews are there. Any country that decides to target Israe faces this vast Jewish lobby. Iran is a good example. Iran gets thrashed and lashed in every Western country you can imagine. The Western governments are always apologetic to Israel. In other words there is every thing to gain but nothing to lose. Not recognition of Israel will do nothing for Palestinians. The countries that matter have mostly already accepted Israel. These reasons and more are why UAE and others finally decided. It must not have been easy because they are Arabs but still common sense prevailed. I guess that is why UAE is what it is and I credited it earlier with @Abu Dhabi

So I will say it what I said on PDF [I have always going back to 1980s felt Pakistan should recognize like Egypt did] and I will say it again. Pakistan needs to recognize Isrel. If you saw me being sarcastic that was because I was taking the piss at the "no" brigade.

Loooooool good luck.
All coming out of the hiding places

 

[Cliftonite]

it was in return for a just solution to the Arab Israeli conflict which was to bring the Palestinians to the table to also negotiate their rights THAT EGYPT FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IN 3 DIFFERENT WARS and that would've brought them just about inches of pre-1967 borders.......and they refused

Not many people in Pakistan know that Palestine has refused offers for statehood from Israel each time over the most stupid of reasons. At this point supporting Palestinians is just like enabling brats.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Everything you said in your post is spot on, IMO. And in Egypt's case like you just mentioned there, Sadat realized and recognized this fact even before the October war of 1973. He went into that war with a clear objective that once it was over, he would be able to bring the US into the Egyptian camp because he realized long time ago that Israel was essentially the 51st state of America. Fighting it -- and even beating it in some cases -- only offers minimal objectives. Recognizing is much more beneficial.

A quick reminder - in 1977 when Sadat was ready to offer peace, it was in return for a just solution to the Arab Israeli conflict which was to bring the Palestinians to the table to also negotiate their rights THAT EGYPT FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IN 3 DIFFERENT WARS and that would've brought them just about inches of pre-1967 borders.......and they refused. So did Syria and the whole gang chastised Egypt for that move. Looking back at the opportunity of the time and now, I wonder how many Arab brothers and sisters would've made a different choice?

Sorry @Abu Dhabi for the temporary off topic post but in many ways, it kinda relates to what the UAE is doing regarding the same matter.

This is the thing. I have enormous respect for Egypt. Fun fact. Egypt has done more for Palestinians then all of the Muslim world put together. In fact it hsas done more for Palestinians then Pakistan will do for 1,000 years of "no recognize with hands over the eyes". Egyptian paid in blood. Fought like tigers. I have read books on the Yom Kippur War. The way the Egyptian Army crossed the Suez Canal and breached the Israeli line was nothing short of the Allied landings on D-Day. Indeed Egyptian armour managed to penetrate deep into the Sinai and caused panic in Tel Aviv. However as Egyptian High Command learned that they were not fighting Israel. They in fact were fighting USA. Americans used sat technology to give Israeli's live info and began massive airlift of supplies. In fact I read that US even began preparing US Army to be thrown into the defence of Israel if Egyptians crossed into the Negev desert. I think that realization as you state was what woke up Egypt. Israel was merely a American outpost in West Asia.

All coming out of the hiding places

I never hid anything. As I said as far back aas 2010 I used to support recognition of Israel only to get lynched by the self proclaimed defenders of Palestine mostly sat in UK or USA.

 

[Trango Towers]

This is the thing. I have enormous respect for Egypt. Fun fact. Egypt has done more for Palestinians then all of the Muslim world put together. In fact it hsas done more for Palestinians then Pakistan will do for 1,000 years of "no recognize with hands over the eyes". Egyptian paid in blood. Fought like tigers. I have read books on the Yom Kippur War. The way the Egyptian Army crossed the Suez Canal and breached the Israeli line was nothing short of the Allied landings on D-Day. Indeed Egyptian armour managed to penetrate deep into the Sinai and caused panic in Tel Aviv. However as Egyptian High Command learned that they were not fighting Israel. They in fact were fighting USA. Americans used sat technology to give Israeli's live info and began massive airlift of supplies. In fact I read that US even began preparing US Army to be thrown into the defence of Israel if Egyptians crossed into the Negev desert. I think that realization as you state was what woke up Egypt. Israel was merely a American outpost in West Asia.

I never hid anything. As I said as far back aas 2010 I used to support recognition of Israel only to get lynched by the self proclaimed defenders of Palestine mostly sat in UK or USA.

Its ok wave your israeli blue and white pompom. We are firmly green and white and you will always be a goyam to the Jews and zionists

 

[retaxis]

Oil money buys a lot. Hope the Gulf arabs saved up that money and invest it wisely for the day when Oil is no longer there.

 

[aziqbal]

its good to see an Arab nation use its oil wealth to build rather than destroy

hope they can also adjust their foreign policy

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Its ok wave your israeli blue and white pompom. We are firmly green and white and you will always be a goyam to the Jews and zionists

It's okay I will chill with my Arab, my Israeli brothers admiring the views of Burj Khalifa drinking stiff Vodka served by Ukranian masseuse while you can clean the garbage wearing your green and white. You will always be a good for nothing miskeen.

What say yeh @Abu Dhabi buddy?

 

[Abu Dhabi]

It's okay I will chill with my Arab, my Israeli brothers admiring the views of Burj Khalifa drinking stiff Vodka served by Ukranian masseuse while you can clean the garbage wearing your green and white. You will always be a good for nothing miskeen.

What say yeh @Abu Dhabi buddy?

you and him are most welcome to the UAE.

However, i will skip the vodka and Ukrainian masseuse lol.

its good to see an Arab nation use its oil wealth to build rather than destroy

hope they can also adjust their foreign policy

I believe our foreign policy is quite great. I am not pleased it has made some allies upset, but i think those Allies got too used to the UAE just being a small country, full stop. Now its a bit more important than that and i think this doesn't sit well with them. You know , sat at the big people kind of thing