Dubai security chief: Independent Palestinian state would be another failed Arab state

[HAIDER]

any sucsses arab country do you know?
without oil

Agreed...but, Iraq will emerge due to democracy ..hopefully.

 

[Serpentine]

Dhahi Khalfan himself is a failed project as a human being. They guy is a total nuts.

 

[Arabian Ottoman]

Dhahi Khalfan himself is a failed project as a human being. They guy is a total nuts.

I enjoy his thoughts. he never fails to make me smile.

 

[19887]

Does it matter?

What do the Palestinians have now that they should fear the future?

The muslim/arab population in Gaza, israel a the west bank is now on the cusp of surpassing the jew population and is growing at a much faster rate.

1- Either they get a Palestinian state
2- Israel takes over with a population that may become majority muslim very quickly
3- The status quo continues whilst the arab population keeps expanding and expanding and decades down the line a stronger muslim world is about able to force a decision upon israel

Israels desire is simple they want the land but their are millions of arabs their who keep growing, they want through oppression and pressure to make them leave

The muslim world is growing 1 7 billion will grow past 2 billion, power comes and goes and it WILL return to the muslim world

Just like every great empire has crumbled and something taken its place

Just keep supporting the Palestinians keep putting pressure on israel and the Palestinians to keep expanding the population

I do not think you know the demographics between the Jordan River and the sea

 

[24 Hours]

Does it matter?

What do the Palestinians have now that they should fear the future?

The muslim/arab population in Gaza, israel a the west bank is now on the cusp of surpassing the jew population and is growing at a much faster rate.

1- Either they get a Palestinian state
2- Israel takes over with a population that may become majority muslim very quickly
3- The status quo continues whilst the arab population keeps expanding and expanding and decades down the line a stronger muslim world is about able to force a decision upon israel

Israels desire is simple they want the land but their are millions of arabs their who keep growing, they want through oppression and pressure to make them leave

The muslim world is growing 1 7 billion will grow past 2 billion, power comes and goes and it WILL return to the muslim world

Just like every great empire has crumbled and something taken its place

Just keep supporting the Palestinians keep putting pressure on israel and the Palestinians to keep expanding the population

Arab birthrates in Israel have stalled while the Jewish birthrates are growing. Right now they are the same.

 

[hussain0216]

I do not think you know the demographics between the Jordan River and the sea

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RA1VR20150910
Population parity at the moment with muslim majority in near future

Arab birthrates in Israel have stalled while the Jewish birthrates are growing. Right now they are the same.

No they haven't the arab birthrate are above that of the overall jew population, the birth rates in gaza and west bank are higher still

There are also othet factors to be taken into account
Its not just birth rate that effect population growth

The arabs have more children
The Arabs are a younger population (same with muslims around the world)
The arabs dont do national service and marry younger
They then have children quickly and dont leave many years between their children

Muslim/Arab population may already have overtaken jew population across israel, gaza and the west bank

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

the head of general seacurity for the Dubai Emirate, Lieutenant General Dahi Khalfan Tamim, has stated that Palestinians should abandon their aspiration for an independent state and merge with Israeli Jews in a united, bi-national state instead.

In a series of remarks published on his Twitter account Monday afternoon, Tamim attempted to garner support for his idea, claiming that a Palestinian state led by Arabs would join the list of failed states in the Arab world.


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According to Tamim, the dream of such a state will never come true, since "Israel will only recognize Palestine if Palestinians become part of it."

Tamim controversially stated: "I suggest relinquishing the idea of a Palestinian state and being satisfied with an Israeli state that would include both Israelis and Palestinians and join the Arab League."

"Today, the Jews are heading the world's economy, without the Jews you Arabs would not have known how to deposit your money in the bank," Tamim continued.

In light of what he described as Arab incompetence in running a state and the distinguished economic talents of Jews, Tamim claimed that a joint Jewish-Palestinian state will only prosper under Israeli leadership.

However, according to his thesis, this bi-national state would ultimately become an Arab state, where Jews will be a minority, as Jewish citizens in the Arab world are.

"Seventy years after the bi-national state would be established, the Arab minority would become the majority and rule the state, just like it happened in South Africa," Tamim tweeted.

In another tweet that spurred controversy, the Dubai security chief wrote: "We should not treat Jews as our enemies. We should treat them as cousins with whom we have a controversy over land inheritance. "

In order to test the feasibility of his idea, Tamim asked his Twitter followers if they think Palestinians and Jews can live together in an Israeli-ruled state. Not surprisingly, 57 percent of the followers answered that "'Jews have no place in our country."


http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...ate-would-be-another-Arab-failed-state-448679

What? First off why would Israel be accepted into the Arab league? It's not called the "Arab" League for nothing so why would a Nation that considers themselves a "jewish" state ever be accepted into the "Arab" League.


Second, this dudes only proof that Palestine would be a failed state is because "Jews" are economically successful. What? You think just because their jewish they automatically accept Israel and won't do business with Palestine(As if that mattered to begin with) I'm pretty sure the creators of google aren't going to refuse Palestinians using their site simply because their Jews.


Third, What makes you think Arabs are incompetent with Money? Nobody is genetically incompetent at academic fields unless they have a mental problem, There are extremely good Arab mathematicians and economists and extremely good Muslim mathematicians and economists. There are lots of successful Arab/Muslim business men, In The Gulf states and Arab states around Palestine for example. What makes you think they won't help Palestine? Plus Neighboring countries will help stabilize and build the economy. Also what makes you think that Arabs are bad at state running?


This entire "article" or whatever you want to call it is simply retarded and based off generalizations and stereotypes, if anyone actually thinks this dude is level headed, they are retarded. It's completely inaccurate and totally dumb,

But that's just my 2 cents.

 

[Metanoia]

It will be a failed state because with friends like these.....who needs....you know the rest.

 

[Malik Alashter]

any sucsses arab country do you know?
without oil

Yes Iraq with the democracy that they paid heavy price to keep it going on they are not failed state and they work hard to get out of the bottle neck that any country get in after war let alone Iraq seeing many wars and sanctions the worst of all the war against terrorism.

 

[19887]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RA1VR20150910
Population parity at the moment with muslim majority in near future

That is not accurate and I will explain:
1.)In israel there is 8.5m people.
2.)6.8m are jews by the israeli law.
From them: 6.4m are jews by the halacha(jewish law)
0.4m are not jews by the halacha(their mother are not jewish by the halacha)
3.)**In israel the term "arab" use to describe everyone who is not a jew(even african,iran,indonesia are "arab")
1.7m are "arabs" from them: 1.35m muslim arabs (0.35m are bedouins).
0.35m are christian "arabs"(Arameans and Maronites),druze,alawits,circassians
baha'is,black hebrews,samaritans,armenians,etc.
4.)In gaza they count 1.8m people from them:150,000 people migrated between the years 1994-2007 to the gulf states europe,north and south america and never came back but they still counted.
**They migrated at the times when israel gave the control on gaza to the PA until hamas take over gaza and fired
rockets into israel,israel put the siege and the imigration stops. So there is 1.65m people in gaza.
5.)In the west bank they count 2.5m from them:200,000 migrated since israel gave the west bank to the PA
till this days-they migrated to:gulf states,europe,north&south america
and never came back but still counted.
250,000 are israeli arabs who entered Israel as part of family reunification and they counted twice - as israeli arabs & as west bank palestinians.
300,000 are israeli arabs who live in jerusalem(east) and they also
counted twice.
Thats means that in the west bank lives 1.75m arabs.

6.)So between the river to the see there is: 6.8m jews
5.1m non jews--from them 4.7m are muslim arabs

7.)The numbers of the 4 main religions in israel are growing by- druze: +2,000 each yaer
christians: +2,000 each year
muslims: +30-35,000 each year(in constant decline)
jews: +100-200,000 each year(in constant increase)

8.)Each year more than 30,000 jews imigrate to israel which is the only positive imigration between the river to the see.
9.)the jewish birthrate in israel are in constant increase standing today on 3.11
the non jewish birthrate in israel are in constant decline standing today on 3.17
the muslim arab birthrate in israel are in constant decline standing on 3.5
** in the west bank the jewish birthrate are in constant increase standing on 5.1
in the west bank the arab birthrate are in constant decline standing on 2.7
the druze and christians birthrate in israel are the same standing on 2.1

10.)The imigration of arabs from israel and the west bank continue,and that point on negative imigration of arabs.
11.)Half of the arabs in the west bank officially declare that they want to imigrate and/or start the procces to imigrate.
12.)The 200-250,000 israeli bedouins in south israel are taking/buying their wifes from the west bank and gaza because tribal strife among the Bedouins in the South,and their wifes(1-4 for each man) are also counted twice.
*the numbers unknown.
13.)the imigration to the west making more and more jews to imigrate to israel in high numbers
and in parallel make more and more arabs/palestinians to follow their family,friends or neighbours who successfully settled in the west.

 

[hussain0216]

That is not accurate and I will explain:
1.)In israel there is 8.5m people.
2.)6.8m are jews by the israeli law.
From them: 6.4m are jews by the halacha(jewish law)
0.4m are not jews by the halacha(their mother are not jewish by the halacha)
3.)**In israel the term "arab" use to describe everyone who is not a jew(even african,iran,indonesia are "arab")
1.7m are "arabs" from them: 1.35m muslim arabs (0.35m are bedouins).
0.35m are christian "arabs"(Arameans and Maronites),druze,alawits,circassians
baha'is,black hebrews,samaritans,armenians,etc.
4.)In gaza they count 1.8m people from them:150,000 people migrated between the years 1994-2007 to the gulf states europe,north and south america and never came back but they still counted.
**They migrated at the times when israel gave the control on gaza to the PA until hamas take over gaza and fired
rockets into israel,israel put the siege and the imigration stops. So there is 1.65m people in gaza.
5.)In the west bank they count 2.5m from them:200,000 migrated since israel gave the west bank to the PA
till this days-they migrated to:gulf states,europe,north&south america
and never came back but still counted.
250,000 are israeli arabs who entered Israel as part of family reunification and they counted twice - as israeli arabs & as west bank palestinians.
300,000 are israeli arabs who live in jerusalem(east) and they also
counted twice.
Thats means that in the west bank lives 1.75m arabs.

6.)So between the river to the see there is: 6.8m jews
5.1m non jews--from them 4.7m are muslim arabs

7.)The numbers of the 4 main religions in israel are growing by- druze: +2,000 each yaer
christians: +2,000 each year
muslims: +30-35,000 each year(in constant decline)
jews: +100-200,000 each year(in constant increase)

8.)Each year more than 30,000 jews imigrate to israel which is the only positive imigration between the river to the see.
9.)the jewish birthrate in israel are in constant increase standing today on 3.11
the non jewish birthrate in israel are in constant decline standing today on 3.17
the muslim arab birthrate in israel are in constant decline standing on 3.5
** in the west bank the jewish birthrate are in constant increase standing on 5.1
in the west bank the arab birthrate are in constant decline standing on 2.7
the druze and christians birthrate in israel are the same standing on 2.1

10.)The imigration of arabs from israel and the west bank continue,and that point on negative imigration of arabs.
11.)Half of the arabs in the west bank officially declare that they want to imigrate and/or start the procces to imigrate.
12.)The 200-250,000 israeli bedouins in south israel are taking/buying their wifes from the west bank and gaza because tribal strife among the Bedouins in the South,and their wifes(1-4 for each man) are also counted twice.
*the numbers unknown.
13.)the imigration to the west making more and more jews to imigrate to israel in high numbers
and in parallel make more and more arabs/palestinians to follow their family,friends or neighbours who successfully settled in the west.

I can only at your mental gymnastics
Son any migration by Palestinians is more then tripled by the Israelis leaving israel because of the situation, high living costs and restrictions.

Even the jew birth rate is based around its useless haredi population

Your jew plan was always to make the Palestinians leave but you got caught out by them increasing their population too quickly and now your stuck

 

[19887]

I can only at your mental gymnastics
Son any migration by Palestinians is more then tripled by the Israelis leaving israel because of the situation, high living costs and restrictions.

Even the jew birth rate is based around its useless haredi population

Your jew plan was always to make the Palestinians leave but you got caught out by them increasing their population too quickly and now your stuck

You can believe it or not but this is the reality this is the facts,i know you maybe brainwashed and/or misinformed by the media or others,you are not the only one the left in israel believe it too and some of them are the responsible for the creation of this lies and the distribution to the world,but it's not going to change the reality.
I'm sorry i blow your bubble,welcome to reality .

 

[hussain0216]

You can believe it or not but this is the reality this is the facts,i know you maybe brainwashed and/or misinformed by the media or others,you are not the only one the left in israel believe it too and some of them are the responsible for the creation of this lies and the distribution to the world,but it's not going to change the reality.
I'm sorry i blow your bubble,welcome to reality .

I trust in the growth of the muslim population, it is destiny as per Gods will

Our 1.7 billion will surge past 2 billion and become the largest faith across the world in the coming decades and so too in Palestine

All we have to do is wait, we wont forget the crimes and occupation of the jews in the meantime

 

[19887]

I trust in the growth of the muslim population, it is destiny as per Gods will

Our 1.7 billion will surge past 2 billion and become the largest faith across the world in the coming decades and so too in Palestine

All we have to do is wait, we wont forget the crimes and occupation of the jews in the meantime

About the world it's just matter of time till muslims become the largest,congratulation .
But for the jews/israel it's not the same,the time is in our side here.

 

[hussain0216]

About the world it's just matter of time till muslims become the largest,congratulation .
But for the jews/israel it's not the same,the time is in our side here.

Your wrong we are younger then you and time is on our side

Your strength is in the status quo with the USA and Europe being your supporters and throwing billions in aid and diplomatic and military help at you to shield your crimes against the Palestinians from scrutiny

But as the status quo changes and the muslim world grows and the population of arabs and muslims surges into the lead in israel, gaza and west bank then your tine will come to account for the sins and abuses you have done unto the Palestinians