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ISLAMABAD: Water flows in Chenab declined by 40 per cent to about 6,000 cusecs on Wednesday from a 10-year average of about 10,000 cusecs, mainly because of construction by India of over a dozen hydropower projects upstream, reduction in rainfall and diversion of river waters.

Pakistan’s Permanent Indus Waters Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah told Dawn that Chenab river flows on the Pakistani side were recorded at 6,213 cusecs on Wednesday. The last ten-year average flows stood at about 10,000-11,000 cusecs. He said that the flows this year were better only than about 5,000 cusecs recorded in the 2002-03 dry year. He said Pakistan had asked India to proportionately reduce their water use on its side when river water declined abnormally. He said that unusually lower rainfall this year mainly because of El Nino effect had significantly contributed to reduced water flows, apart from reportedly unauthorised water uses and construction of hydropower projects on the Indian side. He said the prevailing weather system indicated another dry year. Mr Shah said Pakistan had also asked India to provide details of its agricultural acreage, crops and other projects to enable it to make plans in advance.

He said India was irrigating about 800,000 acres in Chenab area against 1,345,000 acres permissible under the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.

Arshad H. Abbasi, a visiting fellow at the Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SDPI), said that an exponential decline in flows had been observed at Head-Marala in Pakistan because of a reduction in monsoon rainfall in the watershed of Chenab, unauthorised direct water withdrawal by farmers in Jammu with the support of Indian authorities who had especially subsidised electricity for direct pumping in Jammu and Himachal Pradesh and diversion of Ravi-Tavi link canal.

He said that India used to irrigate 642,000 acres from western rivers by Ranbir and Pratap canals when the treaty became effective, but it had built five more canals over the past 10 years to increase the irrigated area. These include Kashmir canal system, high canal system in Jammu, Ravi-Tavi link irrigation system, Igo-phey canal in Leh and Kurbathang canal in Kargil.

Mr Abbasi said that water flows at Head-Marala had declined by almost 50 per cent in 2008-09 when compared with the historic data available since 1922.

He said that India was developing more than a dozen hydropower projects and dams over Chenab to generate 8,696MW of electricity.

The projects, he added, had tremendously decreased the river flow, but the Ministry of Water and Power contested only Baglihar dam and lost the case before the international arbitrator on technical grounds.

Mr Abbasi regretted that Baglihar was a large dam according to International Commission of Large Dam definitions, but its design was not examined on seismic point of view. After the construction, he added, Indian geological experts had pointed out that the dam was built on Murree-Jhelum faulty lines and could cause a catastrophe for downstream areas, including Pakistan, in case of a tremor.

He said a detailed investigation was needed to determine why the authorities concerned in Pakistan had so far failed to protest the construction by India of Dulhasti, Dugar, Gondhala, Reoli/Dugli, Sach-Khas, Tandi, Teling Tinget, Sawalkot, Seli, Raoli and Kirthal hydropower projects.

Mr Abbasi said India was justifying the decline in river flows on the wrong premise of climate change, although India itself was responsible for causing the melting of Himalayan glaciers through unnecessary military presence and massive deforestation in Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh regions and adding to the effects of the climate change.
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Mr Abbasi said India was justifying the decline in river flows on the wrong premise of climate change, although India itself was responsible for causing the melting of Himalayan glaciers through unnecessary military presence and massive deforestation in Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh regions and adding to the effects of the climate change.
What an absurd remark. Melting of Himalayan glaciers because of military presence.
 
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@Red Dwarf
FYI the Indian army has been polluting the Siachen glacier for a long time. The presence of machinery and infrastructure leads to localized increase in temperature. Its quite unsettling that India wants to steal the water from downstream users and build dams in seismically active regions without any concern for people who might later be affected. Quite selfish and little minded I would say.
 
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@Red Dwarf
FYI the Indian army has been polluting the Siachen glacier for a long time. The presence of machinery and infrastructure leads to localized increase in temperature. Its quite unsettling that India wants to steal the water from downstream users and build dams in seismically active regions without any concern for people who might later be affected. Quite selfish and little minded I would say.

You don't forget one thing. Himalayan glaciers are the source of water for India too.

If the military presence has an effect on the glaciers then both India and Pakistan are responsible for that.
 
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Oil leak from machine and scattered oil drums and mountaineering expedition is play vital role in damaging the glacier.
 
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He said India was irrigating about 800,000 acres in Chenab area against 1,345,000 acres permissible under the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.

800,000 < 1,345,000. India's water usage for irrigation is still under limits. So whats the fuss?
 
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The fuss is reduction in water flow, India is taking lion share....what Pakistan is losing...the point IS.
 
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The fuss is reduction in water flow, India is taking lion share....what Pakistan is losing...the point IS.

So if India's water usage is still very much below its permissible limits can you explain how India is taking the Lion's share?
 
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'Snowfall in Kashmir declining, temperature rising'

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New Delhi, Jan 13 (PTI) Global warming appears to have taken a toll on the climate patterns in Kashmir valley which has been experiencing a decline in snowfall and rise in temperature, weather scientists have found.

Analysing the snow accumulation and ablation patterns in Pir Panjal and Shamshawari regions of the valley during the winters of 2004-05 to 2006-07, scientists have shown that the seasonal snow cover has reduced while the maximum temperature was increasing steadily.

"This decreasing trend in areal extent of snow cover, rise in maximum temperature and decreasing trend in total snowfall may be the indicators of global warming or climate change," senior scientist H S Negi of DRDO's Snow and Avalanche Study Establishment, said reporting his findings in the Journal of Earth System Sciences
 
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Using water for irrigation is one aspect, but building around a dozen power generation projects also adds to the less flow. If water had been used only for irrigation, conditions would have been still better, but stoppage of water for power generation has caused to the very low flow of water in Chenab.

And as for Siachen, India has more area under control, more troops and more infrastructure to support them as a result.

On our side, we have less area under control, less troops deployed, plus we have good road network, thus reducing the number of helicopter sorties required for transportation of goods to forward areas.

Anyhow, it seems Pakistan-India next war is gonna be on water, not Kashmir or terrorism.
 
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He said India was irrigating about 800,000 acres in Chenab area against 1,345,000 acres permissible under the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.

800,000 < 1,345,000. India's water usage for irrigation is still under limits. So whats the fuss?


The fuss is that our famers will die..
I hope you have some heart...
You also have farmers can you imagine we had a chance to block your water..
Just a simple question looking for a simple answer..
Leave strategy and military thing aside..
Humanity wins at last...

I hope Indian members look into the matter and question their government....

Aren't we supposed to be humans?

Regards
 
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Using water for irrigation is one aspect, but building around a dozen power generation projects also adds to the less flow. If water had been used only for irrigation, conditions would have been still better, but stoppage of water for power generation has caused to the very low flow of water in Chenab.

And as for Siachen, India has more area under control, more troops and more infrastructure to support them as a result.

On our side, we have less area under control, less troops deployed, plus we have good road network, thus reducing the number of helicopter sorties required for transportation of goods to forward areas.

Anyhow, it seems Pakistan-India next war is gonna be on water, not Kashmir or terrorism.

Do we have any data on how much the water flow has been affected by the dams? Is it still under permissible limits or beyond that? And i dont know about other dams, but the Baglihar Dam issue was sorted out at the World bank tribunal and India wasn't found guilty.

And moreover hydro projects are essential for providing power to far flung regions of Kashmir. Some areas in Drass and Kargil are so remote that no other power supply source is feasible.

I get your point about human activities causing temperatures to increase in glaciers. But again, do we have any data on how much if the rise in temperatures is due to natural causes and how much due to human activity?
 
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The fuss is that our famers will die..
I hope you have some heart...
You also have farmers can you imagine we had a chance to block your water..
Just a simple question looking for a simple answer..
Leave strategy and military thing aside..
Humanity wins at last...

I hope Indian members look into the matter and question their government....

Aren't we supposed to be humans?

Regards

I understand the plight of farmers. In fact I come from a family of farmers in Punjab. My post above was regarding the undue blame on India for gobbling up more water for irrigation when India's water usage was clearly within permissible limits.

If indeed the decreased water flow is due to activities carried out on the Indian side rather than natural causes, lets talk it out. Instead of writing up articles and making accusations its better we solve it through dialogue or in the court of law.
 
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He said India was irrigating about 800,000 acres in Chenab area against 1,345,000 acres permissible under the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.

800,000 < 1,345,000. India's water usage for irrigation is still under limits. So whats the fuss?

Then the treaty is not fair if does not take into account the total availability of water and define percentage allowed for use. Tomorrow due to global warming say the total river flow falls below 1,345,000 cusecs, will India be allowed to sap off all of this water with none flowing to Pak, while technically still remaining within the allowed limits?
 
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I understand the plight of farmers. In fact I come from a family of farmers in Punjab. My post above was regarding the undue blame on India for gobbling up more water for irrigation when India's water usage was clearly within permissible limits.

If indeed the decreased water flow is due to activities carried out on the Indian side rather than natural causes, lets talk it out. Instead of writing up articles and making accusations its better we solve it through dialogue or in the court of law.


Problems can only be solved between us. We the people have to take action. That's all!
 
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