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Introduction
This essay is an analysis of the modern Islamic political thought of Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri on the concept of Islamic khilafat (rule/government). The need for an Islamic state in the contemporary era emerged after the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire and the rise of Arab nationalism, which set off a galvanising reaction across the Muslim world and especially in the Indian subcontinent. European colonialism has shaped the thoughts and aims of both Islamic modernism and fundamentalism, for both were driven by a similar experience of Europe’s technical and military prevalence. Dr Qadri is participating in an intellectual debate not just with Muslims of Pakistan and Muslim youth in the West, but also with Western academia. In doing so he has challenged their perspectives on the out-datedness of the concept of khilafat in contemporary society. This paper will try to relate Dr Qadri’s political thought on the Islamic state with a historical perspective on the khilafat and evaluate how the socio-political context, which he was exposed to in Pakistan, influenced his political thought, and how much Western political thought has influenced his view on the future role of the Islamic state.

The example of Pakistan
Before proceeding to explore Dr Qadri’s views on the Islamic state, it is worth knowing something about his political career (essentially based in Pakistan), for this, somewhat, would have influenced his considerations. Dr Qadri’s political career started in 1989 when he founded the Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT), his own political party, and was elected as a member of the National Assembly of Pakistan from Lahore. After numerous long stretches of functioning as an opposition leader in the National Assembly, Dr Qadri decided to give his resignation from the Assembly in 2004.
This resignation was given as a far-reaching critique of the Pakistani political system. He declared while announcing his resignation that, “In my understanding, this Assembly is no longer an Assembly. The role which the Pakistani constitution has given to the Assembly isn’t performed by it.” The essential function of an Assembly is to discuss domestic and international issues and make decisions in accordance with the necessities of a country. Such functions, as indicated by Dr Qadri, are not being accomplished by the Pakistani parliament. He has elsewhere pointed out that there has been no noteworthy discussion on significant geopolitical and regional issues, for example, eliminating terrorism or Pakistan’s international relations. What has been discussed is the straightforward and good-for-nothing drafting of legislation, which will unavoidably be passed and will take care of little issues of no effect.
One of the important root causes, as confirmed by Dr Qadri in his interviews, of such circumstances that have hindered a modern Islamic state like Pakistan is the failure to comprehend the very nature of Islam as a din, as opposed to a religion in the Western sense of the term. On being asked about his objectives in forming the Minhaj-ul-Qural International movement in 1980, Dr Qadri said in an interview that the vital reason was a need to address and correct the misconception of Islam as a religion, in the Western sense of the term.

The Separation of Religious and Secular Knowledge
Din is a concept alien to Western political policy because of the practically uniform separation of state and church. Numerous Islamic organisations, in Dr Qadri’s view, wrongly limit their aim to only the religious aspects of life. There is subsequently no emphasis on secular education or development. This has messed up the understanding of what Islamic knowledge consists of and what the fundamental role of the Islamic state ought to be. The persons who have extensive knowledge on Islamic fiqh (jurisprudence) and other religious aspects of life are uninformed of modern subjects, for example, political science, economics, etc. They are, in this way, inadequate for giving direction and leadership in resolving political or socio-economic dilemmas. This assessment can likewise be applied to persons who do possess secular knowledge but are uninformed of the Islamic position on such issues. They don’t have the foggiest idea of how to see current issues from a religious perspective; their knowledge is situated in non-Islamic, Western teaching.
Dr Qadri accepts that deeni taleem and mazhabi taleem are two different concepts. Mazhabi taleem basically focuses on training which concerns the study of classical Islamic texts, Hadith and Quranic studies, Islamic theology, fiqh (jurisprudence), etc., without placing much emphasis on the implications of such studies upon the secular aspects of life. Deeni taleem, on the other hand, is a widely inclusive totality which incorporates both mazhabi taleem (religious education) and dunyavi taleem (secular education). It actualises Sharia into one’s practical life by integrating lessons from classical Islamic texts and making them relevant in current social, economic and political circumstances. Along these lines, Dr Qadri contends that Islam is unlike Christianity and Judaism; it is not a mazhab but a din. The message which Dr Qadri is attempting to pass on is plain: a true Islamic state can’t be framed with a misconception of the fundamental idea of the Islamic system. Islam should initially be comprehended for what it truly is – a din as opposed to a religion.

Basic features of Khilafat
On the question of how the Islamic state would function in modern society, Dr Qadri underscores that Islam as a system is relevant to all times. He clarifies that there are two viewpoints to Islam: first, the basic structure and fundamental principles of Islam, which are constant and unchanging. In this he makes reference to the Quran and Sunnah, which are an abadi hidaayat (eternal guidance). The second, he asserts, is man-made law which, with the graduation of time, becomes out-dated because of man’s failure to see and imagine the progressions which society shall face. Dr Qadri thinks that Islamic knowledge has been able to fulfil man’s needs up to now because of ijtihad, the versatile component in Islamic law. Legislation through ijtihad allows new interpretations. Dr Qadri describes ijtihad as a tool which takes into account the “reconstructive spirit” present inside Sharia.
This concept of din and its relevance to modernity is vital for understanding Dr Qadri’s definition of khilafat. Dr Qadri clarifies that “the political authority of the Muslim Ummah (community), whatever the shape or form, has been given the nomenclature of khilafat.” Khilafat signifies Islamic rule or government. When taken in its most literal sense, the term may be defined as niyaabah (trusteeship) and amaanah (vicegerency). This type of vicegerency isn’t confined to the political sense, as is apparent in the shifting references made to the term khilafat within the Holy Quran. In Surah al-Hadid (Quran 57:7), the economic sense of the term is used: “Believe in Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) and spend (in His cause) out of that (wealth) in which He has made you His vicegerents (and trustees).” This, as indicated by Dr Qadri, is “istikhlaaf fil-maal” (economic vicegerency); being a trustee or khalifa of God’s wealth or maal (to spend it in the right way and use it for good deeds). In Sura al-Nur (Quran 24:55) references to the political sense of leadership is made, which Dr Qadri describes as “istikhlaaf fil-Siyasah” (political vicegerency): “He will surely bestow upon them Khilafat (the trust of right to rule) as He granted (the right to) rule to those who were before them.” Khilafat comparable to government (political vicegerency) would consequently demonstrate the rule of man on earth as God’s vicegerent. The differing economic and political usages of the term khilafat confirm that it is pertinent to all aspects of life.
Dr Qadri concurs that there have been numerous changes in the idea of political rule (monarchic, aristocratic, and democratic) and this has brought about numerous political developments (federation, unitary governments, presidential system, parliamentary system, etc.). Considering this, any state can be an Islamic state, depending on the prerequisite that the strategy made by the state and the standards whereupon it is governed are decidedly as per Sharia law. In quest for this, all state policies must be made under the shade of Islamic supremacy and must be subservient to Sharia. Dr Qadri clarifies that “the different types of government are simply different components and appropriateness.” These are ijtihaadi, that is, matters with no particular law or ruling on them, which may change with situation.
Dr Qadri characterises khilafat as a system with an open structure, and alludes to this system of Islamic rule as “khilafat-e-Illahi,” for which the English proportionate is theocracy. Nonetheless, there is a major distinction between Islamic theocracy and Western theocracy. The type of theocracy which is known to Islam is fundamentally different from the theocracy of medieval Europe, wherein a religious priestly class practised unchecked authority in God’s name. Islamic theocracy isn’t governed by a specific gathering of religious elites; the contribution of the whole Islamic community is required for it to work. The Islamic state system can, along these lines, be named a ‘Theo-democracy’ because of the element of divine legislation, while attributing to the Islamic state a limited popular sovereignty. The Islamic government is a democracy in the sense that all issues where there is no direct ruling of divine law can be settled through ijtihad. Be that as it may, on those issues for which there is a particular law, it must be complied with. This aspect comprises its theocratic nature as no rule or law either in the Quran or Sunnah can be revoked or overruled by man-made law.
While this might be viewed as an encroachment upon one’s liberty and freedom, one may contend that God has taken the right to legislate law not to confine man’s freedom but to protect and safeguard it. Thus God has imposed a limit in specific cases. The commonality between Islamic jamuriyya (democracy) and non-Islamic jamuriyya is that the majority opinion is regarded in both cases. The difference is that in Islamic jamuriyya the majority opinion can’t amend, appeal, or revoke Sharia law.

Democracy in the Khilafat
The intentional uncertainty in the structural nature of Islamic government is additionally reflected in the example of the prophet, Muhammad (SAW), who decided to leave the appointment of the next khalifa (leader of Islamic community) open to the ummah instead of nominating the next leader himself. This, as per Dr Qadri, was with the goal that the space open for political authority would not be lost and the door open to ijtihad would not be shut. This also shows that the specific format of leadership was not all that significant for Prophet Muhammad (SAW); he left this open to the ummah, and subsequently announced this to be an “ijtihaadi matter.”
Dr Qadri considers this to be obvious in the different methods for election or appointment experienced during the period of rule of the Khulfa-e-rashideen (four rightly-guided khalifas). In a comparable way to the medieval Islamic scholar-theologian Ibn Khaldun, Dr Qadri credits democratic importance to the medieval methods of election and nomination, by presenting the concept of baya as a form of vote. Ibn Khaldun in his Muqaddimah explained the concept of baya (an oath of allegiance to the ruler) as a means to formalise one’s contract with one’s ruler: “they put their hands into his hand to confirm the contract.” Along these lines, taking the example of the election of Uthman ibn Affan (the third khalifa), Dr Qadri portrays how there was a difference of opinion on who ought to be the next khalifa and many had straightforwardly moved toward Ali ibn Abi Talib to do baya on his hands, yet he did not accept, saying that this matter was for the shura (Parliament) to decide.
Two points are to be noted here: First, baya is giving your opinion, casting your vote. At the time there was no procedure such as ballot papers or ballot boxes, so the people would express their opinion and assent as baya. It was a typical method of declaring aim, will, and pledge to a person or something. In the political sense, baya was an expression of opinion on a potential leader. Dr Qadri believes voting to be the modern form of baya.
Secondly, the shura during the life of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was a parliament comprising of representatives of the community, from the community, and who discussed issues related with the community. It was divided between two houses: shura-e-khaas (special house) and shura-e-aam (general house). One must point out here that Parliament is an English word, which can’t be found in any translation of the Qur’an or Sunnah. The fundamental point to remember is that the shura is a house of representatives comprising senior community members who have been elected or appointed by the community.
On account of Uthman ibn Affan’s election, both the shura-e-khaas and shura-e-aam appeared to be similarly divided on the issue of whether to elect Uthman ibn Affan or Ali ibn Abi Talib. The ultimate decision was to be made by the general endorsement of the community. This, as indicated by Dr Qadri, was done as a referendum by the “chief election commissioner” Abdul Rahman bin Auf. Once more, despite the fact that this specific title isn’t referenced in any Hadith, Dr Qadri clarifies that one may find the title chief election commissioner helpful considering the duties of Abdul Rahman bin Auf which were to conduct the election, hear the opinions of the people, and acquire their votes by counselling them. It is imperative to put accentuation upon the function, not simply the term, for the difference in Arabic and English can’t render the concept as Islamic or un-Islamic. Auf was appointed for istiswaab-ul-aam, which Dr Qadri interprets to signify ‘general election or referendum’, since every sane and senior member was counselled from the community. Through this referendum, Uthman ibn Affan was appointed as the third khalifa. He was not appointed with the baya of the shura, he was appointed by the direct vote and opinion of the citizens, on the basis of adult franchise (common vote of the people). Dr Qadri sees the elective method for Uthman ibn Affan as implying that it was essential to consult the jamhoor (majority opinion).

One Khalifa or Many?
As to the notion that there ought to be one khalifa and Islamic head for the entire world, Dr Qadri concurs with Ibn Khaldun who affirmed of the simultaneous existence of more than one imam (who need not be of Qureshi descent), depending on the prerequisite that they administer in various and vastly separated topographical domains. One may thus conclude that Ibn Khaldun endorsed of the nation-state: an independent territorially bound province consisting of a community bound by the unifying force of asabiyya.
Dr Qadri clarifies that if the Muslim ummah unite anywhere, make a society and install a head from among them, this would be a khalifa. He further clarifies that the inability of Muslims to establish khilafat is because of their wrongly interpreting the concept of ummah. For Dr Qadri, the purpose behind the establishment of the Islamic state is to keep up iltizam al-jammah (society organised collectively), be it one state or a plurality of states. To this extent he again concurs with Ibn Khaldun on the need of keeping up asabiyya with the community to keep it unblemished, for which a social contract is a common need for all humans, be they citizens of a Muslim or non-Muslim country.
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is indicated to have said that if there are three Muslims travelling together, they should appoint one of them as their amir (leader). Dr Qadri uses this Hadith to make an altogether different claim: that by expressing this, Prophet Muhammad (SAW) never announced that there should only be one amir, imam, ruler or khalifa in the whole world. Indeed, Prophet Muhammad’s idea was the establishment of khilafa wherever one is. Since the essential purpose behind the state is to protect its citizens, neither law nor order could be set up if all Muslims, who live thousands of miles away from one another, were under one leadership. For all intents and purposes, there should to be one khalifa in each place and one khalifa for each society.
Dr Qadri cites for instance the state established by Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in Madinah (Medina), which was a state established exclusively for Madinah, supporting the idea of a territorial state. Since this state avoided the people of Thul Hulaifa, who were a free Muslim community situated between Madinah and Makkah (Mecca), the latter didn’t fall under Prophet Muhammad’s authority and had its own independent political entity. Moreover, the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah didn’t concern the people of Thul Hulaifa. One may infer from this that Dr Qadri, in concurrence with Ibn Khaldun, affirms the concept of nation-state and to the idea of having more than one Islamic leader, as fundamental in Islam.

Towards a Global Union of the Ummah
Dr Qadri has proposed a conceivable way forward for the Islamic state to survive and progress in modern society. He accepts that the failed Islamic states of today need fikri-inkilaab (intellectual or ideational revolution). Giving the example of Pakistan as one among many failed Islamic states of the contemporary era, Dr Qadri accepts that Pakistani culture and people up till now have not embraced the way of life of democracy, for which it is fundamental for the institutions to have power instead of the politicians. A comparative observation can also be made for other Islamic states in the near and Middle East, for example, Egypt and Sudan. Dr Qadri argues that there is no democracy in the societies of such states, whether in homes, at school, or in the functioning of the government. Democracy has not been set up in the state as a psyche and culture. This intellectual revolution, consequently, should be drawn closer from different angles: educational, theological and ideational, so as to set up a moderate peaceful perspective on Islam and a culture of democracy.
This is the reason Dr Qadri has emphasised the need of socio-economic reform to remove poverty in Pakistan, and make education affordable and open to all. Education has tragically become an industry, a trade in Pakistan. The poor have no access to good quality education even in state institutions, and private education is excessively expensive. The only means of education accessible to them are through the madrasa, where a student is given free food and clothing so as to lessen costs. The poor couldn’t care less about where their children’s education will lead them, as long as they have food and clothing. Regardless of whether one is being trained to turn into a peaceful citizen or a terrorist, for them their economic problem has been resolved.
Dr Qadri has thus proposed a system like the Western welfare state, so as to eliminate poverty and diminish extremism. He explains how the Islamic din has become enclosed inside the bounds of religion and given over to the madrasa. It was not always like this, he says; worldly and religious knowledge were given equivalent significance and from this equivalent wellspring of knowledge sprung the Ghazalis, Ibn Rushds, scientists and scholars. At present the division between the two has produced two separate views of life. There is, consequently, a need to merge the two and to end the contempt of modern secular thinkers towards Islam, by stopping this religious generalisation of Islam.
In the light of such perspectives, Dr Qadri sees the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) as ineffective and an inadequate delegate of Muslim states in the global arena. He suggests that the future of the Muslim ummah can be better secured through the methods of a union like that of the European Union. Dr Qadri stresses that there is a need to progress towards a Muslim economic network by opening trade zones within the international Muslim ummah and creating a world Islamic bank (or global Muslim bank) and forming defence alliances. Whoever is capable can lead this development and organise global funding for this type of global network by opening up business sectors to one another and bringing democracy into their societies. This might be accomplished by bringing the nations under the umbrella of the Muslim ummah, with the Islamic states ultimately holding their separate identities.
Consensus is at the heart of Islamic doctrine and the circumstances in which we find ourselves today as a result of globalisation have made it all the more easy for Islam to achieve its goal of creating a truly global community of independent Islamic states. Similar to Dr Qadri’s theory of a global Muslim ummah, El-Affendi in Who Needs an Islamic State? suggests that “an Islamic territory must be governed by a pluralistic polity of coexisting but independent communities, governed by treaties rather than a constitution.” This, he argues, “is less ambitious than a khilafat and falls well short of the building of an EU-type union of Muslim states, but could lead to it eventually.”

The writer is a post-doctoral fellow at Centre of Central Asian Studies, University of Kashmir
 
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Tahir-ul-Qadri. Seriously...

Is this hack still around? What are his funds over, that he's planning his next trip to Pakistan.
 
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Tahir-ul-Qadri. Seriously...

Any one who uses religion to gain power in politics should be hanged with balls........ specially Tahir-ul-Qadri.
 
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my Understanding the core of "Sharia Democratic System"

if you get rid of Riba (interest rate from banking system), pornography from current western democracy then you will have a shadow of Sharia Democratic System but still many things would be there to be reformed to complete the system of life cycle. In Islam both interest rate in banking system and pornography in society are forbidden. and you need to understand the core/basics that why they are forbidden.

because interests does not share the loss with poor peoples in business and always get profits no matter if poor has to sale out the property too in order to pay the loans. so the richest can be a more richest and poor can be a more poorest and the human kind cant get the equal treatment, facilities and shares in this world. on the other end Islam suggests the alternative (Sadqa-o-Kherat) that banks and richest themselves should find out the poor people in every corner of the world but first find out them nearest and invest on them and share profit (money,food,gold or future planing for human kind etc) and loss under an agreement. Islam orders to richest that you should always search(Tahqiq) the business and invest, dont keep the heavy amount of money (anti-hoarding) for your self but only for the poverty. Islam says if you prefer interest rate on loan you basically declare a war with God.

Pornography in society is just like cancer for human moralities, spirituality, minds and it can lead you toward disaster of the society where you will have no values for your families, relatives then forget about the rest of world. because you don't value others. that's why it's forbidden in Islam.

sharia democratic system to live a life by sharing, earning, research, development, economy, morality, strategy, love & peace, action against occupier/atrocities etc

Caliphates
now lets talk about Caliphates, God does not like fighting between two nominee of Caliphate rather suggest the debates (Salah-o-Mashwarh) about the sharia system's economy,funding etc but not about the sect infront of audience at any platform (member of mosque, TV channel, stage etc). A caliph can be from any sect of Muslims (those believe on God and believe on Muhammad P.B.U.H as last messenger of God) but only on one condition that he should be well educated according to Islamic economical, strategical System, and should have well knowledge of people needs and crises with his own vision and solutions. if one of nominee Caliph get success to inspire other nominee then the problem solve, otherwise they should go through the voting system by the (Shura) audience (audience should be muttaqi (obeyer of principles) no matter if they belong to different sects). the righteous sect will be decided by God on the day of judgment not by you and me in this world.
Islam also allows Non-Muslims as a policy makers. But not as a leader because Non-Muslims cant understand the sharia system until they don't study about Islam. And if non-Muslim study about Islamic economy, funding,sharing etc i bet you non-muslim will accept islam that's why non-muslim cant implement sharia system, but at same time they are allowed to participate in a system so you can have brilliant, visionary non-muslims in parliament.

The way of following toward Sharia System.

there is not any website who conducted a genuine comparative study of Current Democratic and sharia system. the study conducted either by European Christians (those don't fully understand Islam) or either by stupid madrassas Mullahs (those seek the benefits for themselves and excluded the rights of woman, Non-Muslims in Islam, and described whatever suits to extremist Mulla'a Group & co in every sects of islam). basically those narrow minded Mullahs are the biggest reason, they are not willing to understand the basic point of Islam that in Islam the enforcement cant be allowed to implement the sharia from the beginning. i.e.. people used to throw the stones on Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H when P.B.U.H started the preaching of Islam in a peaceful manner and he never forced any one to accept Islam, he only used the force in order to retaliate against the haters of sharia system against occupier/atrocities. so therefore it is called "take over by force", force of law in European or any other country, just because of those pathetic narrow minded so called Islamic mullahs. and the people like you and me are not allowed to publish religious book in almost all Islamic countries without their permission you have to have certificates otherwise you will get sanctioned with the label of kuffar.

As i said earlier about interest rate and you may agree or not that its either a good system or not. but only current democratic system keeps the interest rate intact with the system, so it's indirectly a part of democratic banking system.

pornography, when our society is teaching about sexuality to the unmatured children from the beginning as part of their education then i dont see any betterment. our society will further disobey the elders with such educational system. when a society it self cant even ban the pornography, the society is applying unmature, unhealthy implementation just like parental lock. i mean seriously is this our solution ? no it cant be a solution because children will find out other-way the way which we have provided in the society. we need to eradicate the provided source of sexutily within the society. and for this we have to start from educational system and introduce spiritual way of religion.


There are few true Islamic scholars those can tell us the prefect system.

1. Dr. Zakir Naik for preaching, research, according to sharia.
2. Dr. Tahir ul Qadri for legislation, laws in sharia.
3. Imran N. Hosein for economic system, world politics, and modern socio-economic/political issues in sharia.
4. Late Dr. Israr Ahmed Guidelines to understand the way of forward to sharia.

i am the follower of all above mentioned Islamic scholars and we need to study perfect education of Islam by those mentioned Islamic scholars for the specific field. but you know what our pathetic madrassas Mullahs dont consider them as an Islamic scholars because all the mentioned Islamic scholars never went to their Pathetic KSA/Iran funded madrassas. but fortunately the mentioned Islamic scholars have their own educational system & network.
 
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An idealistic society needs a unit piece , a core which is flawless
that core is the "individual"

Currently the individual is always planning to by pass the laws and take a shortcut and until that mindset changes greater change is not possible

The focus should be on changing the mind of next generation to not listen to the peer pressure of society and give up on living a clean cut life

Dr Qadri's vision , that corrective measure can happen with greater study of Traditional Islamic studies i.e The Sunnah of Prophet which is more geared towards the day to day life of Prophet Mohammad

Dr Qadri , similar to Imran Khan do also have a similar mind on development of schools and other institutes


The argument has merit


The Caliphate , society can't be established because the idealistic morals are not there.
Any society which will get assembled will be a reflection of the values of a individual and their character.



The term Sharia , is just demonized word in Western Circles , it only means
"Laws / Regulations"

  • Laws and regulations can always be adjusted to fit the society's needs as long as it does not grossly violates Islamic values i.e you don't introduce a Law to allow worshipping 2 Gods that would be a massive violation



Before any attempt is made to create a perfect society , the unit , a person's training needs to be improved , their moral train of thought needs to improve



The ideal individual , can only be a mix of

a) Modern Studies (The Sciences , The Math's , The Physics , The Medicine, Humanities )
b) Old School Islamic Studies (Hadith on life of Prophet Mohammad, Quran)



In Pakistan , the individuals are too distracted by earthly incentives , they ignore Islamic studies and the Modern Sciences are normally an after thought as shortcuts are preferred

  • The PIA Fake License , story shows the Level of Corruption in Institute
  • The Lahore High Court showcases the Corruption of judgement to allow Criminals to escape
  • The TV channels will show dead bodies if it means greater ratings
  • Lawyers group are busy attacking Cardiology Hospitals
  • The Governance system is infested by people who take bribes

A better state , can only come after a better Human , or Individual is conceptionalized



Caliphat / Khilafat , at it's heart is a system , which resembles a Presidential system where the person took acceptance of the member's of society and based on maximum number of acceptance (votes) they came into power
 
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Seems padri saab ran out of money again and is planning to come to Pakistan to implement sharia after he successfully turned canada into an Islamic state.
 
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People are too scared to debate these topics
  • Caliphate society
  • Sharia
Because in last 20 years there has been a lot of negative connotation associated with these concepts

I view these concepts as merely

Caliphate = Resembles a Presidential System of gaining votes from your constituency by a Muslim Man, mostly if you got acceptance from someone high in your society (it used to be small cities and town back then)

Sharia = Rules and Regulations based on Islamic Studies , adjustable for each Time period



Mr Qadri is a educated man and his arguments are well thought of I believe he has a PHD
I can't say he can lead a nation or create a better Pakistan because he has never won elections

However it is unfair to discredit his educated opinion and concepts about a better society
 
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I believe I am talking about Winning Election as a Leader of Party , to form Government and implement his ideas
 
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i dont think we will ever see any true islamic state before imam mehdi and second coming of hazrat Esa A.S. there are less then 1% muslims today who actually know islam and live islam. so these 1 % cant convince the rest of 99% in the right direction. the remaining 99 % are mainly extremists and liberals.
 
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Pehle jo ghareeb marwa diye hai uska qisaas lelen Qodri se phir dete hain usko caliphate ki gaddi

Seems padri saab ran out of money again and is planning to come to Pakistan to implement sharia after he successfully turned canada into an Islamic state.

abhi warm up horahe hain.

100000 page ka fatwa nikalega kay dosre sect wala terrorist hai. apne mureed marwaega phir shor machayega.

is dafa Pakistan aye to rakh lena isko
 
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Blind islamists follow people like tahir up qadri.he is s joker and must be held accountable but overall there is no accountability in Pakistan.
 
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thread should be closed

political and religious content leads to conflict
 
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There is nothing wrong with the thread. Its always the case that certain members of PDF post controversial messages and then some make a case to close the post.

I would advise to read the post instead of personally attacking Dr Tahir ul Qadri. I would advice to close those threads which promote terrorist supporting Molvis on PDF, we all know who they are.
 
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There should be no fear in debating such thing because this is what is positive discussion
Intellectual discussion should be encouraged

Pakistan is Islamic Republic of Pakistan , being a republic the votes are used to elect a leader A presidential system is a bit more closer to the Islamic way of electing the most capable leader and appointing them as a a Caliph , or President. The meaning of both are interchangeable because the person is leading a country forward.

Introduction of Islamic laws , already are part of Pakistan's constitution.

It can be argued the Courts and Lawyers are a compromised institute
However , Pakistan is a Islamic Republic , and we have Laws inclined toward Islamic value


In order to improve the implementation of the Laws , we need better educated people
Who can help move country forward


Mr Qadri is a , respectable , smart and articulate Leader , such voices are needed in our society in order to continuously challenge the status quo


Corruption is being reduced under Honorable Imran Khan's political term however , the voices such as Mr Qadri is valuable input to help improve Pakistan further

He has a huge mansion in one of the most expensive and prestigious parts of Mississauga and also drives a Ferrari.

Baqi ap khud samajdaar hain paisay kahan se aye hongaye


Mr Qadri's home identified in Jung Pakistan picture
This is a basic home in Canada or USA

Typically it was valued at 1.5 Crore Pakistani Rupee , however due to sudden rise in Property in Canada such properties have increased in value in last 10 years




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The car parked outside is a simple toyota



If someone builds a home a simple home as such does that means they can't have a Opinion about improving Pakistan ?
 
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