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Narendra Modi is implementing the Doval doctrine in Kashmir

The Modi government’s hardline strategy in Kashmir is a straight lift from the approach suggested by National Security Adviser Ajit Doval in 2010. Speaking about protests that year he told policymakers not to overreact and give in. He said the crisis will pass off, “It looks big in the midst of it, they cannot sustain it beyond a point and even if they do there is a price they have to pay.” As an assimilationist strategy it has certain astute aspects but it will eventually harm India and damage Kashmir irreparably.

Kashmir is bracing itself for another crackdown. The Narendra Modi government has made it clear that it wants to take back control of the streets from stone-pelting youth. A security official told the Business Standard “Sooner or later, we will have to retake control in South Kashmir. The longer we wait, the more emboldened the protesters become, the more force will be required to deal with them”.

What is bewildering analysts is the persistence of Delhi’s hardline strategy. More than 80 civilians have been shot dead, many blinded and over 10,000 reportedly injured. There is no attempt to scale back the response of security forces. Indian governments have brutally put down unrest before such as in 2010 when 120 youth were killed – but this time Delhi’s reaction seems to be crafted for larger purposes.


To establish that this flows from a well-thought strategy one needs to see a candid 2010 lecture on Kashmir by India’s National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and discern the continuity between the approach he commended then and Delhi’s policy now. The lecture, available on YouTube, offers a fascinating insight into how Doval and the Modi government view the Kashmir question.

Troubling mindsets

Speaking at an NGO event in Hyderabad when he was not in government, Doval characterised the Kashmir problem as the product of the “dysfunctional mindset” of three parties: India, Pakistan and the Kashmiri separatists.

India’s mistake, according to Doval, was to follow a policy of appeasement since 1947. Instead of making Pakistani troops vacate Jammu and Kashmir, India went to the United Nations; Kashmir was internationalised and Article 370 was a product of such appeasement. “Once you accepted …they were different, you sowed the seeds of separatism”.

Doval argues that India has trouble in exercising power, in setting the agenda and changing realities in its favour. Pakistan, instead, decided the timing and terms of engaging India in war or peace, India restricted itself to defensive defence, not defensive offence.

Pakistan’s (and Kashmiri) mindset, he reckons, is that “India is weak, it is a nation of brahmins and banias…they are no fighters, [on the contrary] “we are great fighters, we have a great religion …that teaches us self-sacrifice…jihad and therefore India can be balkanised by them”. The Kashmiri separatists assume that international opinion is in their favour and they have great faith in Pakistan even though it does not have the capacity nor the intent to liberate Kashmir.

His doctrine is thus essentially predicated on three assumptions: India is traditionally reluctant to embrace power, Pakistan is driven by a desire to destroy India and Kashmiris are complicit in the latter’s project.

Power as Justice


Doval argues that the situation will change and that Kashmir will have a solution if one of the three players changes their mindset. Delhi should give up on the high moral ground as an antidote to Pakistan’s misadventures and embrace the exercise of power. “In the game of power the ultimate justice lies with the one who is strong”.

This framework leads Doval to understand the 2010 protests through a particular lens that has a read across to the policies pursued by the government now. The protests, he argues, were not a spontaneous uprising by civil society but were part of a well-orchestrated plan by the ISI in league with Kashmiri separatists. Pakistan instructed people where they should congregate, where to collect stones. There would be calls from mosques as well. He said the protests were not peaceful, the type of damage stones can do was “totally murderous” and therefore the security forces “were totally justified in using the force they did”. He said those resorting to indiscriminate force against innocents must be punished but stressed that it is a blunder to undermine the rule of law.

Doval then made policy recommendations about the 2010 protests that chime with Delhi’s handling of the current situation.

His advice to policymakers then was: “Don’t overreact, don’t give in, don’t follow appeasement, it [the crisis] will pass off. It looks big in the midst of it, they cannot sustain it beyond a point and even if they do there is a price that they have to pay.” The policy should send a message to Pakistan that “paying some youth” to wage an “armed violent uprising” will not change government policy. “It won’t”.

Doval believes that if India exercises power, then Pakistan and the Kashmiris will fall in line. Islamabad must be made to understand that it cannot take on the Indian establishment. Islamabad’s mindset “is unlikely to change unless India gives a decisive blow to Pakistan”. This would also make the separatists change their minds and renounce links with Pakistan.


Apart from the use of force to quell protests Doval also endorses a hardline political approach with a view to conceptually reconfigure the conflict. India must reiterate unequivocally that J&K is an integral part of India. Delhi must insist that there is no political question to be settled in Kashmir (a point BJP general secretary Ram Madhav also made recently). “Do not say we will talk to the Kashmiri people for a political solution”.

Disaggregate the problem. Different people take to the streets for different reasons. Youth are unhappy about lack of jobs, others about lack of development etc. Address those discretely; do not allow them to converge on one point and turn the discussion to political settlement. Flip the understanding of autonomy to empower the people through development but not by empowering those in power like mainstream parties.

Assimilation without legislation

We can draw the following conclusions from the above:

One, the Doval doctrine is essentially an aggressive assimilationist strategy to end the discussion on Kashmir’s political status. We are seeing that strategy implemented in parts. Rajnath Singh constantly reiterates that J&K is an ‘integral part of India’ and that violence will not be tolerated.

Modi’s decision to call off foreign secretary talks in September 2014 in reaction to a meeting of separatists with the Pakistani High Commissioner appears as an element of this strategy geared to get Kashmir off the bilateral agenda.

The ongoing crackdown is designed to convince Kashmiris that they will need to reconcile to assimilation, even if it involves the use of force. In the lecture Doval advises governments not to underestimate “your own security agencies”. “They can do if they are tasked and if there is a political will to ask them to do a thing”. Modi appears to have endorsed this policy as he has barely spoken out about the scale of casualties in Kashmir except in vague generalities – a marked contrast to his immediate, fervent appeal about protests and violence in Karnataka over the Cauvery waters dispute.

Two, the timing of the crackdown is also strategically astute. It happens as the Barack Obama presidency winds down, when his administration is more keen on tying up security arrangements with regional powers like India (to balance China) than worry about human rights violations in Kashmir.

Three, the approach is currently confounding Pakistan. Islamabad is criticising India’s policy but Washington and the international community are impervious to Kashmir-oriented lobbying because of Islamabad’s duplicitous dealings on Afghanistan and because India is important to American security calculations in Asia. Meanwhile, the Pakistan army cannot – as in the past -- allow militant violence to ramp up dramatically in Kashmir or elsewhere in India for fear of aggravating casualties in the Valley. It also realises that a military confrontation suits the BJP as the latter is looking for nationalist causes to consolidate domestic support.


The downsides

Notwithstanding these, the Doval doctrine is deeply flawed.

For one, it is entirely abstracted from the nature of lived experience in the Valley shaped by unfulfilled political aspirations, an overwhelming military presence, denial of rights of assembly, and repeated excesses over the years. Pakistan’s machinations and religious radicalism are factors in the Valley but they thrive in the seedbed of opportunity established by India’s policy. Incidentally, hard evidence that Pakistan and the separatists are organising every street protest in Kashmir is yet to be furnished by the Modi government. If stones are organised and mosques give calls to pelt them there surely must be video evidence that nationalist television anchors can purvey endlessly – but we are yet to see any.

Two, when translated into policy, the Doval doctrine does not differentiate between separatist leaders allegedly stoking unrest and civilians on the streets – it directs the fury of the State on the latter, thus handing out a form of collective punishment. If the people on the streets assemble for a range of developmental grievances, apart from separatism, as Doval contends, then why are they being shot dead as if they are all saboteurs? If the State has concluded that civilians on the streets are separatists, does it plan to use force on all of them to socialise rural Kashmir into a new understanding of the conflict?

Doval’s theory assumes that a period of shock therapy will rewire the way Kashmiris think about their situation and accordingly adjust their expectations. But it underestimates what collective suffering does to social resolve; a sense of injustice reinforces the search for meaning, it will not steer individuals towards depoliticised acquiescence. Theoretically neat statist strategies that delineate outcomes on paper have rarely eviscerated morally grounded longings in history. Kashmiris can be repressed, but State violence will not tame their soul.

Delhi’s shock therapy has already caused untold damage to Kashmir. If persisted with, it can generate severe militant blowback within the Valley. Come to think of it, India’s main objective in Afghanistan is to ensure that it does not become a safe haven for anti-Indian terrorists. By pursuing egregious violence in the Valley, India will have aided the creation of one in Kashmir within its borders – and thereby achieved Pakistan’s purposes. Who then is walking into whose trap?

An unstable, repressed Kashmir will have a toxic effect on India’s polity, polarising society and poisoning its public sphere -- in ways that suppression of Palestinians has changed Israeli society and lurched the country to the Right. The Doval doctrine is, in short, a violent experiment that will destabilise India. Its use and application must stop now.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...-in-kashmir/story-uPZfR9aNCPwFCD3VkTnWZN.html

70 Days passed with blood and blister and there is no sign Kashmiris tires up and moving towards any compromise, this jackass doval's experiment only bring more shame to mother india....and nothing else.

The PDP-BJP alliance in tatters and J&K heading towards Governor Raj....finally.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...g-for-governors-rule/articleshow/54361256.cms

if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

@Spy Master @PaklovesTurkiye @TMA @war&peace @Irfan Baloch @Kaptaan @ISI.
@hellfire @dadeechi @HAKIKAT @Areesh @Razia Sultana @nick_indian _indian
 
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While I do not endorse "Doval Doctrine" if a speech can be called a doctrine, there is some measure of brutal truth and realistic stocktaking in the idea he floated.

In a nutshell there is no political solution possible, Some Sunni Kashmiris specially those prescribing to Wahabi idealogy want complete Islamization of Kashmir thereby doing away with secular ethos of Kashmir and India itself. Eventual goal is to merge or closely align themselves with like minded Islamic Republic of Pakistan. In such a Kashmir there would be no space for Kashmiri Hindus, Shias or Buddhists.

All Indians agree that above cannot be allowed to take place but differ on how to tackle the program. Opportunists would pander to this Wahabi mindset when out of power and fall in line with diktats of New Delhi when in power. This wiggling creates disillusionment within the general population and forces them to seek unconventional alternatives thus falling prey to malicious propaganda from across the border.

To stop this India should make it clear what are the boundaries of any future discourse. The time has come to unequivocally establish redlines and those standing outside the line must be neutralized. Kashmiris would also to have make a choice - Continuous warfare, protests, violence or Development, Education and Jobs. Both cannot go hand in hand. India cannot keep throwing good money after the bad.

In anything India is alone responsible for putting itself in this hole - Countries don't put on velvet gloves when dealing with internal strife. Lincoln went to War, China has almost exterminated Tibetian Culture, Russians decimated the Chechens. This is the model which works and must be successfully adapted.

No more all party delegations, no more pandering to likes of Geelani. India can afford to siege but can Kashmir withstand it is the million dollar question?
 
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The need of the hour is to crush Wahabi mentality in Kashmir, but at the same time India needs to bring Kashmris into main stream. Bring them to Delhi, Bangalore and Mumbai for education and jobs. Initially provide a small quote in central government jobs and state government jobs in other states for Kashmiris until Kashmir can provide jobs for its youth. This will solve lot of problems.
 
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Narendra Modi is implementing the Doval doctrine in Kashmir

The Modi government’s hardline strategy in Kashmir is a straight lift from the approach suggested by National Security Adviser Ajit Doval in 2010. Speaking about protests that year he told policymakers not to overreact and give in. He said the crisis will pass off, “It looks big in the midst of it, they cannot sustain it beyond a point and even if they do there is a price they have to pay.” As an assimilationist strategy it has certain astute aspects but it will eventually harm India and damage Kashmir irreparably.

Kashmir is bracing itself for another crackdown. The Narendra Modi government has made it clear that it wants to take back control of the streets from stone-pelting youth. A security official told the Business Standard “Sooner or later, we will have to retake control in South Kashmir. The longer we wait, the more emboldened the protesters become, the more force will be required to deal with them”.

What is bewildering analysts is the persistence of Delhi’s hardline strategy. More than 80 civilians have been shot dead, many blinded and over 10,000 reportedly injured. There is no attempt to scale back the response of security forces. Indian governments have brutally put down unrest before such as in 2010 when 120 youth were killed – but this time Delhi’s reaction seems to be crafted for larger purposes.


To establish that this flows from a well-thought strategy one needs to see a candid 2010 lecture on Kashmir by India’s National Security Adviser Ajit Doval and discern the continuity between the approach he commended then and Delhi’s policy now. The lecture, available on YouTube, offers a fascinating insight into how Doval and the Modi government view the Kashmir question.

Troubling mindsets

Speaking at an NGO event in Hyderabad when he was not in government, Doval characterised the Kashmir problem as the product of the “dysfunctional mindset” of three parties: India, Pakistan and the Kashmiri separatists.

India’s mistake, according to Doval, was to follow a policy of appeasement since 1947. Instead of making Pakistani troops vacate Jammu and Kashmir, India went to the United Nations; Kashmir was internationalised and Article 370 was a product of such appeasement. “Once you accepted …they were different, you sowed the seeds of separatism”.

Doval argues that India has trouble in exercising power, in setting the agenda and changing realities in its favour. Pakistan, instead, decided the timing and terms of engaging India in war or peace, India restricted itself to defensive defence, not defensive offence.

Pakistan’s (and Kashmiri) mindset, he reckons, is that “India is weak, it is a nation of brahmins and banias…they are no fighters, [on the contrary] “we are great fighters, we have a great religion …that teaches us self-sacrifice…jihad and therefore India can be balkanised by them”. The Kashmiri separatists assume that international opinion is in their favour and they have great faith in Pakistan even though it does not have the capacity nor the intent to liberate Kashmir.

His doctrine is thus essentially predicated on three assumptions: India is traditionally reluctant to embrace power, Pakistan is driven by a desire to destroy India and Kashmiris are complicit in the latter’s project.

Power as Justice


Doval argues that the situation will change and that Kashmir will have a solution if one of the three players changes their mindset. Delhi should give up on the high moral ground as an antidote to Pakistan’s misadventures and embrace the exercise of power. “In the game of power the ultimate justice lies with the one who is strong”.

This framework leads Doval to understand the 2010 protests through a particular lens that has a read across to the policies pursued by the government now. The protests, he argues, were not a spontaneous uprising by civil society but were part of a well-orchestrated plan by the ISI in league with Kashmiri separatists. Pakistan instructed people where they should congregate, where to collect stones. There would be calls from mosques as well. He said the protests were not peaceful, the type of damage stones can do was “totally murderous” and therefore the security forces “were totally justified in using the force they did”. He said those resorting to indiscriminate force against innocents must be punished but stressed that it is a blunder to undermine the rule of law.

Doval then made policy recommendations about the 2010 protests that chime with Delhi’s handling of the current situation.

His advice to policymakers then was: “Don’t overreact, don’t give in, don’t follow appeasement, it [the crisis] will pass off. It looks big in the midst of it, they cannot sustain it beyond a point and even if they do there is a price that they have to pay.” The policy should send a message to Pakistan that “paying some youth” to wage an “armed violent uprising” will not change government policy. “It won’t”.

Doval believes that if India exercises power, then Pakistan and the Kashmiris will fall in line. Islamabad must be made to understand that it cannot take on the Indian establishment. Islamabad’s mindset “is unlikely to change unless India gives a decisive blow to Pakistan”. This would also make the separatists change their minds and renounce links with Pakistan.


Apart from the use of force to quell protests Doval also endorses a hardline political approach with a view to conceptually reconfigure the conflict. India must reiterate unequivocally that J&K is an integral part of India. Delhi must insist that there is no political question to be settled in Kashmir (a point BJP general secretary Ram Madhav also made recently). “Do not say we will talk to the Kashmiri people for a political solution”.

Disaggregate the problem. Different people take to the streets for different reasons. Youth are unhappy about lack of jobs, others about lack of development etc. Address those discretely; do not allow them to converge on one point and turn the discussion to political settlement. Flip the understanding of autonomy to empower the people through development but not by empowering those in power like mainstream parties.

Assimilation without legislation

We can draw the following conclusions from the above:

One, the Doval doctrine is essentially an aggressive assimilationist strategy to end the discussion on Kashmir’s political status. We are seeing that strategy implemented in parts. Rajnath Singh constantly reiterates that J&K is an ‘integral part of India’ and that violence will not be tolerated.

Modi’s decision to call off foreign secretary talks in September 2014 in reaction to a meeting of separatists with the Pakistani High Commissioner appears as an element of this strategy geared to get Kashmir off the bilateral agenda.

The ongoing crackdown is designed to convince Kashmiris that they will need to reconcile to assimilation, even if it involves the use of force. In the lecture Doval advises governments not to underestimate “your own security agencies”. “They can do if they are tasked and if there is a political will to ask them to do a thing”. Modi appears to have endorsed this policy as he has barely spoken out about the scale of casualties in Kashmir except in vague generalities – a marked contrast to his immediate, fervent appeal about protests and violence in Karnataka over the Cauvery waters dispute.

Two, the timing of the crackdown is also strategically astute. It happens as the Barack Obama presidency winds down, when his administration is more keen on tying up security arrangements with regional powers like India (to balance China) than worry about human rights violations in Kashmir.

Three, the approach is currently confounding Pakistan. Islamabad is criticising India’s policy but Washington and the international community are impervious to Kashmir-oriented lobbying because of Islamabad’s duplicitous dealings on Afghanistan and because India is important to American security calculations in Asia. Meanwhile, the Pakistan army cannot – as in the past -- allow militant violence to ramp up dramatically in Kashmir or elsewhere in India for fear of aggravating casualties in the Valley. It also realises that a military confrontation suits the BJP as the latter is looking for nationalist causes to consolidate domestic support.


The downsides

Notwithstanding these, the Doval doctrine is deeply flawed.

For one, it is entirely abstracted from the nature of lived experience in the Valley shaped by unfulfilled political aspirations, an overwhelming military presence, denial of rights of assembly, and repeated excesses over the years. Pakistan’s machinations and religious radicalism are factors in the Valley but they thrive in the seedbed of opportunity established by India’s policy. Incidentally, hard evidence that Pakistan and the separatists are organising every street protest in Kashmir is yet to be furnished by the Modi government. If stones are organised and mosques give calls to pelt them there surely must be video evidence that nationalist television anchors can purvey endlessly – but we are yet to see any.

Two, when translated into policy, the Doval doctrine does not differentiate between separatist leaders allegedly stoking unrest and civilians on the streets – it directs the fury of the State on the latter, thus handing out a form of collective punishment. If the people on the streets assemble for a range of developmental grievances, apart from separatism, as Doval contends, then why are they being shot dead as if they are all saboteurs? If the State has concluded that civilians on the streets are separatists, does it plan to use force on all of them to socialise rural Kashmir into a new understanding of the conflict?

Doval’s theory assumes that a period of shock therapy will rewire the way Kashmiris think about their situation and accordingly adjust their expectations. But it underestimates what collective suffering does to social resolve; a sense of injustice reinforces the search for meaning, it will not steer individuals towards depoliticised acquiescence. Theoretically neat statist strategies that delineate outcomes on paper have rarely eviscerated morally grounded longings in history. Kashmiris can be repressed, but State violence will not tame their soul.

Delhi’s shock therapy has already caused untold damage to Kashmir. If persisted with, it can generate severe militant blowback within the Valley. Come to think of it, India’s main objective in Afghanistan is to ensure that it does not become a safe haven for anti-Indian terrorists. By pursuing egregious violence in the Valley, India will have aided the creation of one in Kashmir within its borders – and thereby achieved Pakistan’s purposes. Who then is walking into whose trap?

An unstable, repressed Kashmir will have a toxic effect on India’s polity, polarising society and poisoning its public sphere -- in ways that suppression of Palestinians has changed Israeli society and lurched the country to the Right. The Doval doctrine is, in short, a violent experiment that will destabilise India. Its use and application must stop now.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...-in-kashmir/story-uPZfR9aNCPwFCD3VkTnWZN.html

70 Days passed with blood and blister and there is no sign Kashmiris tires up and moving towards any compromise, this jackass doval's experiment only bring more shame to mother india....and nothing else.

The PDP-BJP alliance in tatters and J&K heading towards Governor Raj....finally.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...g-for-governors-rule/articleshow/54361256.cms

if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

@Spy Master @PaklovesTurkiye @TMA @war&peace @Irfan Baloch @Kaptaan @ISI.
@hellfire @dadeechi @HAKIKAT @Areesh @Razia Sultana @nick_indian _indian

Oh lol :lol:
A Pakistani is concern about India .

All those curfew are just confined in 5 districts and we wont allow Islamic Separatism .
All other soft policies are failed .So let them face some hard policies .

The need of the hour is to crush Wahabi mentality in Kashmir, but at the same time India needs to bring Kashmris into main stream. Bring them to Delhi, Bangalore and Mumbai for education and jobs. Initially provide a small quote in central government jobs and state government jobs in other states for Kashmiris until Kashmir can provide jobs for its youth. This will solve lot of problems.

You cant understand .Except them no other Indians cruelly attacked the police that is just doing their job.
They asked for it and invited it .
 
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Oh lol :lol:
A Pakistani is concern about India .

All those curfew are just confined in 5 districts and we wont allow Islamic Separatism .
All other soft policies are failed .So let them face some hard policies .



You cant understand .Except them no other Indians cruelly attacked the police that is just doing their job.
They asked for it and invited it .

They are our country men, they are misguided. The rest of India has to bring them to their senses. We cannot leave them to their means. This will only alienate them further.
 
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In a nutshell there is no political solution possible, Some Sunni Kashmiris specially prescribing those Wahabi idealogy want complete Islamization of Kashmir


The need of the hour is to crush Wahabi mentality in Kashmir

This is the basic Principal (mistake as per me) of this Davol Doctrine that

Kashmir crisis is a Wahabi mentality, its foreign and not indigenous, its only the aspiration of 5% or less.....once you believes in this metaphor all you need and comes down to only one solution......Militaristic, and that is why India going and going more into deep trouble instead of coming out.
 
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They are our country men, they are misguided. The rest of India has to bring them to their senses. We cannot leave them to their means. This will only alienate them further.

They are misguided beyond repair.
Thanks to the stupidity of previous govts.
This people are true opportunists.They asked for the Armed forces during those flood times and now they are attacking the same forces with stones .
They already have choices for good life in India .Noone need to give special consideration or push .
 
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This is the basic Principal (mistake as per me) of this Davol Doctrine that

Kashmir crisis is a Wahabi mentality, its foreign and not indigenous, its only the aspiration of 5% or less.....once you believes in this metaphor all you need and comes down to only one solution......Militaristic, and that is why India going and going more into deep trouble instead of coming out.

India is not in trouble. India is booming, the economy is growing at the fastest rate of any major economy. No terror attacks. India is doing what only developed countries can do with its space programs. It has some of the best educational institutions in the world that produce CEOs of companies like Google and Microsoft. Its diaspora is one of the most talented, educated and respected. Its industry has attracted largest FDI of any country in the world. Its military is growing from strength to strength. Major countries across the world are pandering to India's need. Its people are as nationalists as you can get in spite of having so many religions, languages and ethnicties. This is not called trouble.

They are misguided beyond repair.
Thanks to the stupidity of previous govts.
This people are true opportunists.They asked for the Armed forces during those flood times and now they are attacking the same forces with stones .
They already have choices for good life in India .Noone need to give special consideration or push .

Kashmiris especially from the valley never got the real opportunity. They are alienated from the Indian mainstream that Pakistan is using them for its own end. Kashmiris should be given a healing touch.
 
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India is not in trouble. India is booming, the economy is growing at the fastest rate of any major economy. No terror attacks. India is doing what only developed countries can do with its space programs. It has some of the best educational institutions in the world that produce CEOs of companies like Google and Microsoft. Its diaspora is one of the most talented, educated and respected. Its industry has attracted largest FDI of any country in the world. Its military is growing from strength to strength. Major countries across the world are pandering to India's need. Its people are as nationalists as you can get in spite of having so many religions, languages and ethnicties. This is not called trouble.



Kashmiris especially from the valley never got the real opportunity. They are alienated from the Indian mainstream that Pakistan is using them for its own end. Kashmiris should be given a healing touch.

They chose to alienate from mainstream.
There is one Pandit guy in this PDF from that valley ,Anantanag.

So it would always depends on people choice
 
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India’s mistake, according to Doval, was to follow a policy of appeasement since 1947. Instead of making Pakistani troops vacate Jammu and Kashmir, India went to the United Nations; Kashmir was internationalised and Article 370 was a product of such appeasement. “Once you accepted …they were different, you sowed the seeds of separatism”.

My views too.
 
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The need of the hour is to crush Wahabi mentality in Kashmir, but at the same time India needs to bring Kashmris into main stream. Bring them to Delhi, Bangalore and Mumbai for education and jobs. Initially provide a small quote in central government jobs and state government jobs in other states for Kashmiris until Kashmir can provide jobs for its youth. This will solve lot of problems.

Jobs unfortunately wont solve anything.

A lot of Kashmiris study and work all over India but still want to separate from India. I have known a couple of very educated Kashmiri girls like these myself. The spirit of Islamism has gone too deep inside their heads. They have been completely brainwashed. Unfortunately, nothing can change that now.
 
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Jobs unfortunately wont solve anything.

A lot of Kashmiris study and work all over India but still want to separate from India. I have known a couple of very educated Kashmiri girls like these myself. The spirit of Islamism has gone too deep inside their heads. They have been completely brainwashed. Unfortunately, nothing can change that now.

My point is we should try. The people who are coming from valley to study in other parts of India are from rich families. The real Kashmiri has never got the opportunity.
 
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Jobs unfortunately wont solve anything.

A lot of Kashmiris study and work all over India but still want to separate from India. I have known a couple of very educated Kashmiri girls like these myself. The spirit of Islamism has gone too deep inside their heads. They have been completely brainwashed. Unfortunately, nothing can change that now.

Situation was not that bad prior to this Modi/RSS government, I mean even at Vajpyees' BJP government, Kashmiri people have hopes, the situation completely worsens by emphasizing i.e Gao-rakshaks, Ghar Wapsi & other RSS programmes which divides people and place more checks on minorities specially Muslims in overall India by this new GOI....Kashmiris fought and participated last election only on one pretext....that to somehow keep BJP out of Kashmir at any case and this un-natural alliance exactly does the opposite, what the mandate given by people of Kashmir.
 
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Situation was not that bad prior to this Modi/RSS government, I mean even at Vajpyees' BJP government, Kashmiri people have hopes, the situation completely worsens by emphasizing i.e Gao-rakshaks, Ghar Wapsi & other RSS programmes which divides people and place more checks on minorities specially Muslims in overall India by this new GOI....Kashmir fought and participated last election only on one pretext....that to somehow keep BJP out of Kashmir and this un-natural alliance exactly does the opposite, what the mandate given by people of Kashmir.

Kashmiris have been this way at least since 1989. Don't forget this is a separatism movement that started with a massacre of its minorities and driving them out. The same kind of sentiment continues today. Similar violent protests were held in 2008 and 2010 as well.
 
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