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Double standards in fighting terror

You're batting zero here.

Given your predilection for lying accusations rather than dealing with Pakistan's real problems, why should any Pakistani subscribe to your bunk? Or if you wield coercive authority over them, why should they not rebel?

Rather touchy! Raw nerve exposed even further?

Why are you here? What is your interest here on Defence PK? If you have any care or concern about people, then you ought to be dealing with and fighting against the atrocities being committed daily by the illegal Zionist state against innocent Palestinian people.
Anyway, soon, all evil makers will be... no more, inshaALLAH.:pakistan:
 
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Why are you here? What is your interest here on Defence PK?
Personal questions? Start a separate thread.

If you have any care or concern about people, then you ought to be dealing with and fighting against the atrocities being committed daily by the illegal Zionist -
Repeating debunked and unsupported drek doesn't merit respect.
Anyway, soon, all evil makers will be... no more, inshaALLAH.:pakistan:

So the peoples of Pakistan should ignore issues of corruption, poor governance, and terrorism and pray to Allah for deliverance instead?
 
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Personal questions? Start a separate thread.

Repeating debunked and unsupported drek doesn't merit respect.


So the peoples of Pakistan should ignore issues of corruption, poor governance, and terrorism and pray to Allah for deliverance instead?

Why does it bother you so much? It's our Islamic Republic of Pakistan, and the terrorism you talk about is financed and backed up by envious entities such as the illegal Zionist Yehud state and by Zionist Hindus of al-Hind. Like I said earlier, this terrorism phenomenon is a Zionist thing, an idea dating back to the 1940s and acted upon by your forefathers, most probably.

The only issue at hand is the illegal Zionist state and those who are supportive of it.

My Zionist friend, take a chill pill and relax...
 
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I think you've drunk too much of the "Jews are EEEVVIILLL!!!" Kool-Aid served up by anti-Zionists.

Try taking a couple of deep breaths and remember it's not about me or Israel, the topic thread is about Pakistan, specifically in regards to the article written by a Pakistani and printed in a Pakistani newspaper that this Zionist posted.

You might want to check your avatar, it's quite blank.

As pointed out many, many times Pakistanis are forbidden to form their own opinion about Israel. So repeating or supporting the government-mandated line doesn't count as an expression of your own opinion but is an expression of conformity and submission to authority.

And same can be said about you ... selective opinion about muslims and Pakistanis ...

By the way i asked you simple question and rather then answereing you are talking non.sense ...

I asked why you called ahmadis as muslims ... And why should we allow ahmadis to preech their false concepts in the name of islam ... Will you allow somwonw to be called jew living in israel while calling moses as liar and rejecting torrah and old testament partially ...
 
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And same can be said aboutbyoubselective opinion about muslims and Pakistanis ...

By the way i asked you simple question and rather then answereing you are talking non.sense ...

I asked why you called ahmadis as muslims ... And why should we allow ahmadis to preech their false concepts in the name of islam ... Will you allow somwonw to be called jew living in israel while calling moses as liar and rejecting torrah and old testament partially ...

Good going akhi, go for the jugular!:suicide2:
Zionist Yehudi Soloman2 is only here to create mischief.
 
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Why does it bother you so much? It's our Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the terrorism you talk about is financed and backed up by envious entities such as the illegal Zionist -
You have the right to your own opinion, but not your own facts. People lose patience with such fake-o boilerplate. If they can't kick you out of office, they will rebel. I'm trying to keep Pakistani leaders who think like you from being shot, blown up, or dangling from lamp-posts. Wasn't 1947 and 1971 bad enough?
 
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An Israeli trying to lecture others? Buddy please focus on what your government is trying to do by forcing Palestinians off thier land. Shining Pirez was once invited to an Ahmediya gathering and all of a sudden the Israelus developed a soft spot for a community it has nothing on common with?
 
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And same can be said about you ... selective opinion about muslims and Pakistanis ...
Don't prevaricate and minimize. The same can't be said about me. Pakistani opinion regarding Israel is enforced, not "selective".

I asked why you called ahmadis as muslims ... And why should we allow ahmadis to preech their false concepts in the name of islam ...
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'Who am I to declare a person as non-Muslim who calls himself a Muslim?' "
- Muhammad Ali Jinnah, May, 1944

Will you allow somwonw to be called jew living in israel while calling moses as liar and rejecting torrah and old testament partially ...
Sure, why not? You're a Jew if your mom was a Jew or if you've converted - a process akin to adoption.

Expressing doubts and questions and throwing out provocative statements to be debunked is also a Jewish "thing."

An Israeli trying to lecture others?
I'm an American.
 
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You have the right to your own opinion, but not your own facts. People lose patience with such fake-o boilerplate. If they can't kick you out of office, they will rebel. I'm trying to keep Pakistani leaders who think like you from being shot, blown up, or dangling from lamp-posts. Weren't 1947 and 1971 bad enough?

Who are you and why are you so interested in all affairs Pakistan? Imbeciles like yourself are incapeable of anything. We have a protector, the best of protectors, so be off with you, Zionist mischief maker!

If you had any decency and an iota of good in you, then you should be challenging the atrocoties committed on a scale unmeasurable by your evil Zionist yehud against the helpless Palestinians and others elsewhere.

Why would a Zionist sychophant want to keep leaders who think like myself from being shot? Have you been supplied drugs by the Taliban from Afghanistan and now you've become all delusional.

Good one! A Zionist Yehudi tries to help Pakistanis from being shot!:sniper:
Give me the name of the drug you're on, I'll pass it onto others of your mentality who can further amuse me...keep taking the pills...

:smitten::pakistan::pakistan::pakistan::smitten:
 
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Jewish people are considered people of the book not zionists who migrated from Europe and hijacked a faith. Ahmediya are a seperate faith just like the Nation of Islam in the US.

An ame
Don't prevaricate and minimize. The same can't be said about me. Pakistani opinion regarding Israel is enforced, not "selective".


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'Who am I to declare a person as non-Muslim who calls himself a Muslim?' "
- Muhammad Ali Jinnah, May, 1944

Sure, why not? You're a Jew if your mom was a Jew or if you've converted - a process akin to adoption.

Expressing doubts and questions and throwing out provocative statements to be debunked is also a Jewish "thing."

I'm an American.
an American with an Israeli flag? The Pakistani flag is to be only accepted by other members on this forum I take it?
 
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If you had any decency and an iota of good in you, then you should be challenging the atrocoties committed on a scale unmeasurable by your evil Zionist -
Humbug.

Why would a Zionist sychophant want to keep leaders who think like myself from being shot?
If the word you're looking for is "sycophant" you're not employing it correctly here. But as to why - has it crossed your mind that being a victim of Pakistan's educational establishment maybe you don't really understand Zionists well at all?
 
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Don't prevaricate and minimize. The same can't be said about me. Pakistani opinion regarding Israel is enforced, not "selective".


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'Who am I to declare a person as non-Muslim who calls himself a Muslim?' "
- Muhammad Ali Jinnah, May, 1944

Sure, why not? You're a Jew if your mom was a Jew or if you've converted - a process akin to adoption.

Expressing doubts and questions and throwing out provocative statements to be debunked is also a Jewish "thing."

I'm an American.


IMBECILE! They are not AHMEDIS! Get your facts straight! They are Qadianis created and financially supported by the British. All those who fear the beauty of Islaam resort to all kinds of evil masked by external beauty against Muslims and Islaam.

Like I said earlier, you have no reason or purpose to be here but to create fitnah and fasad - mischief, but we can smell a Zionist rat rear-end from afar, so be off with you, Mischief Maker (MM)!

Humbug.

If the word you're looking for is "sycophant" you're not employing it correctly here. But as to why - has it crossed your mind that being a victim of Pakistan's educational establishment maybe you don't really understand Zionists well at all?


We Muslims and Pakistanis understand Zionism and Zionists more than anyone ever can. Your arrogance has no limits, which is typical of Zionist Yehudis...

Keep up the nonesensical diatribe MM!
 
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Double standards in fighting terror

December 12, 2016

When the Counter-Terrorism Department (CTD) raided the offices of the Tehreek-e-Jadid in Rabwah earlier this week [link?], arresting nine men, it claimed to have done so in order to stop the publication and propagation of hate speech. The Punjab Government barred Tehreek-e-Jadid from producing any literature in 2014, following a recommendation from the Muttahida Ulema Board, the official body charged with determining what does or does not constitute hate material. This was the basis upon which the CTD chose to take action, displaying a degree of alacrity that is usually missing from most campaigns against terror in the province.


Of course, the situation is not quite as clear-cut as the official narrative of the raid would suggest. Tehreek-i-Jadid is an Ahmadiyya organisation, and the ‘hate speech’ it is accused of producing amounts to little more than literature related to the ideas and activities of their community. As such, it could be argued that the CTD’s actions this week were yet another ignominious chapter in the state’s long campaign of Ahmadi persecution, with the government using a raft of anti-Ahmadi laws to continue harassing that community.

It is important to highlight this incident because it stands in stark contrast with the state’s conduct in the broader fight against terror and hate speech. Two weeks ago, Masroor Nawaz Jhangvi, a known sectarian activist and possible terrorist with his name on the Fourth Schedule of the Anti-Terrorism Act, was allowed to campaign for, and eventually win, an election that saw him become the newest member of the Punjab Assembly. It is not difficult to find video footage of Jhangvi inciting people to violence, openly using extremely inflammatory language to target Shias, amongst others, as apostates. This merchant of hate and purveyor of extremist violence is treated with all manner of deference and respect; he has been feted by television anchors since winning his election, and will undoubtedly use his new position to further his poisonous agenda openly and with impunity.

Why, one might reasonably ask, does the state move so effectively against a small, non-violent Ahmadi organisation, but refuses to take any action whatsoever against a malcontent like Masroor Jhangvi? There are several possible answers; perhaps the state fears a backlash from his supporters and lacks the stomach and/or capacity for a fight, or maybe this is simply reflective of how the state continues to play double-games with the people of Pakistan, nurturing and tolerating extremism for ideological and strategic reasons? Perhaps the deliberately targets the weak and marginalised as part of a systematic campaign to appease religious militants, hoping that doing so will prevent them from unleashing their murderous rage upon the rest of the country? Atlee believed the same about Hitler. Whatever the reason, it is clear that there are double-standards at work in Pakistan’s ‘fight’ against extremism, and that much more needs to be done to hold the state accountable for its lack of action against militant organisations operating in the country without compunction.

On that note, it also makes sense to pay some attention to yet more counsel from the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) whose Chairman, Maulana Sherani, took the opportunity provided by his final meeting as its head to launch throaty denunciations of several actions recently taken by the government. He argued that renaming the Physics Centre at Quaid-i-Azam University after Dr. Abdus Salaam, the country’s most renowned and accomplished physicist, ‘set a bad precedent’. Precisely why this would be the case was left unsaid, although one suspects it had something to do with the fact that Dr. Salaam was an Ahmadi. Similarly, Sherani had nothing but criticism for the proposed bill against forced conversions currently being debated by the Sindh government. Sherani said that the law was un-Islamic and unconstitutional, since it prevented people from embracing Islam of their own free will. That the law was specifically designed to prevent ‘forced’ conversions, in a context where it is clear that this is a serious problem confronted by the country’s minorities, was simply dismissed by Sherani without comment. In a context where Pakistan continues to grapple with militancy and sectarian violence, he chose to use his last meeting with the CII to focus on the truly important issues of our time.

None of this is unexpected coming from someone who has made a career out of making the most insensitive, parochial, and frankly unhinged interventions in Pakistan’s political discourse. Obsessed with all things carnal, promoter of child marriage, defender of child abuse, enabler of religious persecution, abettor of rape, all of these are labels that could reasonably be applied to the CII chairman based on his pronouncements during his time in office. Even in Pakistan, a country beset with extremism and bigotry, it is rare to find a man as misogynistic, misopedic, and downright misanthropic as Maulana Sherani enjoying the power and privilege that he has. Given the ultimate pulpit from which to preach his vitriol, Sherani has never come across as anything other than someone utterly lacking in even the most basic human empathy and kindness towards those less fortunate than himself, and has amply demonstrated that he possesses a heart full of hatred fuelled by raging self-righteousness. When his term finally comes to an end on the 16th of December, we will all finally be able to see him for what he truly is, shorn of the trappings of office; a small man of limited intellect and few gifts, impotently raging against a changing world that he both loathes and fears. He will not be missed.

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Hassan Javid

The writer is an assistant professor of political science at LUMS


This is quite funny Solomon that you posted this because last time I checked wasn't it Israel who was banning the call to prayer? LOL

Talk about hating on Muslim minorities you hypocrite.
 
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IMBECILE! They are not AHMEDIS! Get your facts straight! They are Qadianis created and financially supported by the British.
I think you're the first person here to refer to Jinnah as an "IMBECILE!"

We Muslims and Pakistanis understand Zionism and Zionists more than anyone ever can -
If you truly believed that then you would not have asked your question.

Your arrogance has no limits, which is typical of Zionist Yehudis...
Oh, the irony! :chilli:
 
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This is quite funny Solomon that you posted this because last time I checked wasn't it Israel who was banning the call to prayer? LOL

Talk about hating on Muslim minorities you hypocrite.



Nice one, well said akhi. May ALLAH bless you, amiin.


Soloman2 - truely a hypocritic and a Mischief Maker (MM)


Obviously, this Zionist Yehudi has not read the PROTOCOLS OF THE ZIONIST ELDERS!

This is quite funny Solomon that you posted this because last time I checked wasn't it Israel who was banning the call to prayer? LOL

Talk about hating on Muslim minorities you hypocrite.

Nice one, well said. May ALLAH bless you akhi.
Soloman2 - truely a hypocritical Mischief Maker (MM)

Obviously, this Zionist Yehudi has not read the PROTOCOLS OF THE ZIONIST ELDERS!
 
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