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‘Don’t want kids to learn benefits of cow urine in school’: Chennai marches for Science

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By Anjali Venugopalan

“It’s becoming harder for rationalism to find space in the public domain,” says D Indumathi, a particle physicist at the Institute of Mathematical Sciences (IMSc) in Chennai. Indumathi was one of the many scientists from the city who, along with students and the general public, walked in the March for Science held at the Elliot’s Beach promenade in Chennai on April 14.

The Chennai march is one of the 200 or so that are happening in cities all across the world. In India, 18 cities, including the metros as well as Tier-II cities like Puri and Bhopal, are participating. One of the objectives of the march is to “stop [the] propagation of unscientific, obscurantist, out-dated ideas”.

S Thilagar, Vice-President of Breakthrough Science Society, the NGO which is organizing the marches in India, says, “There is a systematic campaign by the government against Science. A minister is actually speaking against an established scientific fact like evolution.”

Thilagar was referring to an incident early this year when Minister of State for Human Resource Development (HRD) Minister Satyapal Singh questionedDarwin’s theory of evolution. His comments were dismissed by Union HRD minister Prakash Javdekar later, but Satyapal has since also gone on to claim that ‘mantras’ had codified the laws of motion, before Isaac Newton came up with them.

“My children are in school and I want them to learn real Science, not the benefits of cow urine,” said Jayanti Srinivasan, a homemaker who had come for the march with her entire family. Last year, the Central government set up a 19-member panel headed by Union Science and Technology Minister Harsh Vardhan to scientifically study panchgavya – a mixture of cow urine, cowdung, milk, ghee and curd.

About a month ago, Harsh Vardhan also falsely claimed that Stephen Hawking had said the Vedas had a theory superior to Einstein’s famous e=mc2 equation, which explains how energy can be converted to mass and vice versa.

One of the demands made in the march is increasing funding for scientific and technological research to 3% of the Gross Domestic Product, from the present 0.8% that it has remained at for the past decade.

In this year’s Union Budget, funding for departments related to scientific research has been raised by 11%, but this is not enough say scientists.

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“It sounds like it has increased, but it will be offset by inflation,” says TR Govindarajan, a retired professor from IMSc.

S Ramanan, 80, a mathematician who currently teaches at Chennai Mathematical Institute, says that increasing funding was essential because Science has become more complicated and expensive. “We only have the capacity to do common-sense Science now. Simply doing technological research isn’t enough. We need to do more sophisticated scientific research to broaden our understanding of the world.”

Indumathi too agrees that Science had become more complex now. “Because of this, it’s becoming harder to communicate concepts to the common man. The atmosphere is becoming more vitiated now.” She also feels that scientists needed to make more efforts to reach out to people.

Indumathi has also been involved with the Tamil Nadu Science Forum, which works with grassroots educators.

The education sector is need of reform, according to the marchers. One of the demands made was to increase funding for education to 10% of the GDP, from the 3% that it’s at now.

Yashodhan Manerikar, a second-year student at IIT-Madras, says, “Despite being a leading institution, our labs still have technology from the ’90s. We’re making observations and plotting graphs by hand. In the real world, there are computers to do that.”

He also felt that there wasn’t enough encouragement for original research. Most PhD research, according to him, was only to confirm existing research. His senior, Tanmay Kibe, a fourth-year Physics student, however, felt that this wasn’t a problem: “There need to be multiple studies to confirm a hypothesis. What I’m concerned about is practices like homeopathy being followed despite extensive evidence that it doesn’t work.”

Govindarajan feels that students at premier institutes didn’t have it as hard as smaller colleges. “I’ve visited colleges where students have been asked to bring their own test-tubes and chemicals,” he says.

At the end of the march, the list of demands was signed by those who had gathered. It will be presented to the Governor of Tamil Nadu, who will then forward it to the Prime Minister. The initiative has been supported by personalities like MS Swaminathan, a Padma Bhushan awardee, and Padma Shri awardee M Anandakrishnan.

India participated in the march for the first time last year on August 9, a few months after the global march on April 22. Organizers said that it was to show solidarity with scientists in the West, who faced funding cuts after President Donald Trump came to power in the United States.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...ow-urine-school-chennai-marches-science-79579
 
Satyapal Singh questionedDarwin’s theory of evolution.
Harsh Vardhan also falsely claimed that Stephen Hawking had said the Vedas had a theory superior to Einstein’s famous e=mc2 equation
Utterly baffling is that persons like Satyapal Singh, an ex All India Services member and Dr Harsh Vardhan, a prominent otorhinolaryngologist who was one of the pioneers behind India's polio eradication programme in the early 90s receiving numerous accolades from the WHO in the process and someone I have always looked up to, have resorted to making these ludicrous claims.

With all those knowledgeable folks in Tamil Nadu, the state too has failed to build consensus required to establish the Neutrino Observatory. The scientists and physicists in the state should have taken the lead role swaying public opinion in that matter. How difficult can it be to make people understand that trillions of neutrinos pass through a human body at any given time.
 
How much Disgusting it can get ? For Fcuk Sake, its Cow Urine .. nothing holy about it
And when are your people going to stop attacking your immunization workers/vaccine providers who work tirelessly in the face of death threats. Look, the parameters may change but the whole of subcontinent is steeped deep in superstition and ignorance. And it will remain so till religion is given precedence over science.
 
And when are your people going to stop attacking your immunization workers/vaccine providers who work tirelessly in the face of death threats. Look, the parameters may change but the whole of subcontinent is steeped deep in superstition and ignorance. And it will remain so till religion is given precedence over science.

those workers are attacked for certain reason , remember a guy named Shakil Afridi ? he infested that Polio program and now the Extremists are against those drops and those who gives them. there is no comparison about teaching your kids about how holy a Animal's Urine is , because it not .
 
How much Disgusting it can get ? For Fcuk Sake, its Cow Urine .. nothing holy about it
If you are talking to hindus... Please keep in mind their worshipping genitalia. I don't intend to offend but facts are facts.

Good thing is that Hindus are ashamed of Hinduism now. They will eventually reject it.
 
those workers are attacked for certain reason , remember a guy named Shakil Afridi ? he infested that Polio program and now the Extremists are against those drops and those who gives them. there is no comparison about teaching your kids about how holy a Animal's Urine is , because it not .
That explanation doesn't stand the scrutiny of the regulatory agencies. The charges against Dr Afridi are manifold but none of them is remotely linked to the Oral Polio Vaccines. The vaccines are sourced from WHO approved suppliers and it is easy for even a layman to notice if they are no longer potent. Fact remains that the polio programme in your country is being opposed by the hard-line fundamentalists on grounds of misplaced priorities and deep seated superstitions. Pakistan is one of the last remaining bastions of poliomyelitis. As they say, is hamam mein sab nange hain.
 
If you are talking to hindus... Please keep in mind their worshipping genitalia. I don't intend to offend but facts are facts.

Good thing is that Hindus are ashamed of Hinduism now. They will eventually reject it.

they can worship whatever they want.
 
was'nt there also the Education minister that advocated that cows breathe out oxygen?
 
Utterly baffling is that persons like Satyapal Singh, an ex All India Services member and Dr Harsh Vardhan, a prominent otorhinolaryngologist who was one of the pioneers behind India's polio eradication programme in the early 90s receiving numerous accolades from the WHO in the process and someone I have always looked up to, have resorted to making these ludicrous claims.

With all those knowledgeable folks in Tamil Nadu, the state too has failed to build consensus required to establish the Neutrino Observatory. The scientists and physicists in the state should have taken the lead role swaying public opinion in that matter. How difficult can it be to make people understand that trillions of neutrinos pass through a human body at any given time.

The govt. has cracked down on unlimited funding without showing any results.

Now they are required to show results every year to get more funding. Their honeymoon / picnic in a govt. job is truly over under this govt.

So a WHOLE lot of scientists are angry with the MOdi govt.

https://qz.com/1050040/more-funds-l...an-scientists-message-to-the-modi-government/

More funds, less cow dung: Angry Indian scientists’ message to the Modi government

If you are talking to hindus... Please keep in mind their worshipping genitalia. I don't intend to offend but facts are facts.

Good thing is that Hindus are ashamed of Hinduism now. They will eventually reject it.

WOW ..... are you Zakir naik ? he too claimed to be an expert on Hinduism.
 
was'nt there also the Education minister that advocated that cows breathe out oxygen?
All these ministers making absurd claims are highly educated engineers, doctors and civil servants. Education is wasted on such individuals. Besides they all have one more thing in common. No prizes for guessing though.:P
 
All these ministers making absurd claims are highly educated engineers, doctors and civil servants. Education is wasted on such individuals. Besides they all have one more thing in common. No prizes for guessing though.:P

Can you make a list of people on whom education is 'wasted' ? What have you achieved with your education ? Can you share any news article that speaks about you ? the same way you are discussing about people on who you claim "educated was wasted".
 
The govt. has cracked down on unlimited funding
What percentage of our GDP does the government spend on higher education, public health and research vis-à-vis China, Japan, Australia or the Western countries?

If anything, center has been frantically trying to bring down the disparity. But it sure doesn't help when educated legislators even if they belong to a certain right-wing organization express such disparaging views showing our country in bad light.
 

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