Don't label all Uighurs terrorists, Turkey tells China

[beijingwalker]

Ok so China accepts not all of them are terrorists, but then why camps for a million people? I asked the same question to a Chinese colleague and he thought those are terrorists, how can there be a million or even 100 thousand terrorists? I understand Chinese predicament with western propaganda, but the camps are there for real. @beijingwalker @Beast

Where did you get this 1 million number? I also read 2 million and 3 million, where were those numbers from? Can you specify?

 

[FedererExpress]

Does the wannabe-Sultan have any allies in the world?

 

[m52k85]

Where did you get this 1 million number? I also read 2 million and 3 million, where were those numbers from? Can you specify?

Yes your right, the numbers are not for certain. My questions: are the camps real? How many in the camps if they are real?

 

[beijingwalker]

Yes your right, the numbers are not for certain. My questions: are the camps real? How many in the camps if they are real?

Vocational training centers are everywhere in China, now they are all on vacation because of coronavirus, and Xinjiang now is almost coronavirus free, go figure.

 

[Beast]

Ok so China accepts not all of them are terrorists, but then why camps for a million people? I asked the same question to a Chinese colleague and he thought those are terrorists, how can there be a million or even 100 thousand terrorists? I understand Chinese predicament with western propaganda, but the camps are there for real. @beijingwalker @Beast

Will CNN or BBC try to tell you these camp are good for the Uyghur or exxtremist to learn skill, turn over a new leaf or integrate back to the society as a meaningful citizen? Also Turkish website, they have their ottoman ambition to try claim Xinjiang as their territories. Of cos they will twist and misled people like you to hate Chinese and claim these camp as places to rape Uyghur or abuse them... I think you are smart to know the truth.

 

[ShaikhKamal]

The Saudi Arabia only cares about the rule of the Saudi family they are not a democratic government. Pakistan is is angry and sad but quiet due to Chinese military and financial support. Only Turkey is speaking openly and also the international media. President Xi has pursued aggressive policies that has caused many current problems of China. The Uighur concentration camps will now be in history books and history will also judge China's brutal policies.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-uighur-cemeteries-drive-eradicate-cultural/

China destroys dozens of Uighur cemeteries in drive to 'eradicate' cultural history of Muslim

• Nicola Smith, asia correspondent

9 OCTOBER 2019 • 4:02PM
Even in death there is no respite for the Uighurs, one of the world's most persecuted minorities, according to a new investigation that has revealed China is destroying burial grounds where generations of families have been interred.

Over the past two years, tombs have been smashed and human bones scattered in dozens of desecrated cemeteries in China’s northwest region, research by Agence France Presse and satellite imagery analysts Earthrise Alliance has revealed.

While the official explanation for the policy is urban development or the “standardisation” of old graves, overseas Uighurs say the destruction is part of the state’s concerted effort to eradicate their ethnic identity and control every aspect of their lives.

"This is all part of China's campaign to effectively eradicate any evidence of who we are, to effectively make us like the Han Chinese," said Salih Hudayar, who said the graveyard where his great-grandparents were buried was demolished.

"That's why they're destroying all of these historical sites, these cemeteries, to disconnect us from our history, from our fathers and our ancestors," he said.

Satellite images received on September 30, 2019 from CNES 2019, distributed by Airbus DS and produced by Earthrise shows a picture from April 24, 2018 (top) showing the Sulanim cemetery (C) in Hotan, Xinjiang province and the same view on August 6, 2019 (bottom) CREDIT: AFP
An estimated one million mostly Muslim ethnic minorities have been rounded up into re-education camps in Xinjiang in the name of combatting religious extremism and separatism.


Former detainees interviewed by The Telegraph have recounted horrific torture, being forced to memorise Chinese Communist Party propaganda, and to renounce Islam.

Those who are free are intimidated by suffocating surveillance and restrictions, including bans on beards and veils.

A further Telegraph investigation in Kashgar, Xinjiang, in June found evidence of widespread intimidation of the local population, whether inside mosques or in family homes, including reports that officials were offering “gifts” of pork, a forbidden food for Muslims.

Beijing has long sought to control the resource-rich region of Xinjiang, where decades of government-encouraged migration of the Han – China’s ethnic majority – have fuelled resentment among Uighurs.

Last year, Uighur exile groups reported that the Chinese authorities were setting up “burial management centres” in a bid to exert control over the most private aspects of their lives.

The latest investigation claims that the destruction of existing graveyards has been carried out with little respect for the dead – with AFP journalists discovering human bones discarded at three site and other sites where tombs were reduced to mounds of bricks.

Satellite imagery analysed by AFP and Earthrise Alliance, shows that the Chinese government has, since 2014, exhumed and flattened at least 45 Uighur cemeteries - including 30 in the past two years.


The Xinjiang government did not respond to a request for comment.

The destruction is "not just about religious persecution," said Nurgul Sawut, who has five generations of family buried in Yengisar, southwestern Xinjiang.

"It is much deeper than that," said Ms Sawut, who now lives in Australia and last visited Xinjiang in 2016 to attend her father's funeral.

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"If you destroy that cemetery ... you're uprooting whoever's on that land, whoever's connected to that land," she explained.

China has dismissed the escalating global criticism of its treatment of Uighurs, denying there are any human rights issues in the region.

This week, the United States said it would curb visas for officials over the alleged abuses and blacklisted 28 Chinese facial recognition and artificial intelligence technology firms that it accuses of being implicated in the repression of the Muslim minority.

"This kind of behavior seriously violates the basic norms of international relations, interferes in China's internal affairs, and harms China's interests," said Geng Shuang, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman. "The Chinese side strongly deplores and opposes it."

 

[Beast]

The Saudi Arabia only cares about the rule of the Saudi family they are not a democratic government. Pakistan is is angry and sad but quiet due to Chinese military and financial support. Only Turkey is speaking openly and also the international media. President Xi has pursued aggressive policies that has caused many current problems of China. The Uighur concentration camps will now be in history books and history will also judge China's brutal policies.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...s-uighur-cemeteries-drive-eradicate-cultural/

China destroys dozens of Uighur cemeteries in drive to 'eradicate' cultural history of Muslim

• Nicola Smith, asia correspondent

9 OCTOBER 2019 • 4:02PM
Even in death there is no respite for the Uighurs, one of the world's most persecuted minorities, according to a new investigation that has revealed China is destroying burial grounds where generations of families have been interred.

Over the past two years, tombs have been smashed and human bones scattered in dozens of desecrated cemeteries in China’s northwest region, research by Agence France Presse and satellite imagery analysts Earthrise Alliance has revealed.

While the official explanation for the policy is urban development or the “standardisation” of old graves, overseas Uighurs say the destruction is part of the state’s concerted effort to eradicate their ethnic identity and control every aspect of their lives.

"This is all part of China's campaign to effectively eradicate any evidence of who we are, to effectively make us like the Han Chinese," said Salih Hudayar, who said the graveyard where his great-grandparents were buried was demolished.

"That's why they're destroying all of these historical sites, these cemeteries, to disconnect us from our history, from our fathers and our ancestors," he said.

Satellite images received on September 30, 2019 from CNES 2019, distributed by Airbus DS and produced by Earthrise shows a picture from April 24, 2018 (top) showing the Sulanim cemetery (C) in Hotan, Xinjiang province and the same view on August 6, 2019 (bottom) CREDIT: AFP
An estimated one million mostly Muslim ethnic minorities have been rounded up into re-education camps in Xinjiang in the name of combatting religious extremism and separatism.


Former detainees interviewed by The Telegraph have recounted horrific torture, being forced to memorise Chinese Communist Party propaganda, and to renounce Islam.

Those who are free are intimidated by suffocating surveillance and restrictions, including bans on beards and veils.

A further Telegraph investigation in Kashgar, Xinjiang, in June found evidence of widespread intimidation of the local population, whether inside mosques or in family homes, including reports that officials were offering “gifts” of pork, a forbidden food for Muslims.

Beijing has long sought to control the resource-rich region of Xinjiang, where decades of government-encouraged migration of the Han – China’s ethnic majority – have fuelled resentment among Uighurs.

Last year, Uighur exile groups reported that the Chinese authorities were setting up “burial management centres” in a bid to exert control over the most private aspects of their lives.

The latest investigation claims that the destruction of existing graveyards has been carried out with little respect for the dead – with AFP journalists discovering human bones discarded at three site and other sites where tombs were reduced to mounds of bricks.

Satellite imagery analysed by AFP and Earthrise Alliance, shows that the Chinese government has, since 2014, exhumed and flattened at least 45 Uighur cemeteries - including 30 in the past two years.


The Xinjiang government did not respond to a request for comment.

The destruction is "not just about religious persecution," said Nurgul Sawut, who has five generations of family buried in Yengisar, southwestern Xinjiang.

"It is much deeper than that," said Ms Sawut, who now lives in Australia and last visited Xinjiang in 2016 to attend her father's funeral.

Telegraph reporters looking into the erasure of Uighur culture were harassed by Chinese authorities. This video explores the steady decline of the Uigh...
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"If you destroy that cemetery ... you're uprooting whoever's on that land, whoever's connected to that land," she explained.

China has dismissed the escalating global criticism of its treatment of Uighurs, denying there are any human rights issues in the region.

This week, the United States said it would curb visas for officials over the alleged abuses and blacklisted 28 Chinese facial recognition and artificial intelligence technology firms that it accuses of being implicated in the repression of the Muslim minority.

"This kind of behavior seriously violates the basic norms of international relations, interferes in China's internal affairs, and harms China's interests," said Geng Shuang, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman. "The Chinese side strongly deplores and opposes it."

LOL.. Proven to be faked. Nice propangda.

You only cared about how to destroy the Pakistan/China relationship so as to benefit the Neo-Con USA so Pakistan can continue be under the shadow of US imperialism. That is how Canadian education brainwashed its citizen....

 

[beijingwalker]

Only Turkey is speaking openly and also the international media.

Turkey didn't join the west to condemn China either, many Turkey politicians openly speak in favor of China over Xinjiang.

Turkish party head: Xinjiang people living in a brotherly atmosphere in China

 

[ShaikhKamal]

Pakistan and many countries have news organisations that provide independent news. China has state controlled media which only shows what government wants them to report. Saudi Arabia is also controlled by a single family which also controls it's media. Now in the age of Internet we get the news since the government cannot control all communications.

 

[Itachi]

fAkE NeWs cHinA DoEs nO WrOnG!

More Fake Western News

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Will CNN or BBC try to tell you these camp are good for the Uyghur or exxtremist to learn skill, turn over a new leaf or integrate back to the society as a meaningful citizen? Also Turkish website, they have their ottoman ambition to try claim Xinjiang as their territories. Of cos they will twist and misled people like you to hate Chinese and claim these camp as places to rape Uyghur or abuse them... I think you are smart to know the truth.

Why is there a large gate at the entrance way? I suppose you are worried about thieves breaking in...certainly not people trying to get out.

Here's the gate at your #1 ranked University. You should upgrade the security to match your vocational schools to keep people "out".

 

[Beast]

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Why is there a large gate at the entrance way? I suppose you are worried about thieves breaking in...certainly not people trying to get out.

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Here's the gate at your #1 ranked University. You should upgrade the security to match your vocational schools to keep people "out".

LOL.. Lose like you run out of credible counter points and you can only nitpick on this insignificant things....
In China, high wall, steel gates and security police entrance at vocational school entrance are common. Whats so wooha about it? The so called #university entrance photo u post are not the actual one. That is after the main entrance. Too bad your propaganda failed.
Typical american cheap move.

fAkE NeWs cHinA DoEs nO WrOnG!

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More Fake Western News

All proven to be faked and paid by western government to make such low moves. DW is german funded and Vice are both proven to be tabloid organisation that makes propangada documentary to just to sell sensational news to make lots of money. They wouldnt even care its real or not. Fancy you ever got the cheek to put it up as proof?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Welle


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

I pity you.
All my counter point are posted in previous post. Nice cheapshot by you.

Since you are so fond of DW and think they are righteous, i guess this video is legal for Pakistan too...

Same as you shall condemn this VICE video about so called Pakistan concentration camp.

Same as the BBC which u are so fond of.

I know you all are selective, you all will brag these video are wrong. But when comes to China , any anti-China video from the same organisation will claimed a legi.

I fully support real Pakistanis who believe in the integrity of Pakistan and their fighting against Terror but we also believe Pakistanis need to respect China integrity and our effort against terror. Not to believe in hearsay and CIA effort to destroy Pakistan and China.

Pakistan and many countries have news organisations that provide independent news. China has state controlled media which only shows what government wants them to report. Saudi Arabia is also controlled by a single family which also controls it's media. Now in the age of Internet we get the news since the government cannot control all communications.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/my-trip-china-exposed-shameful-lies-peddled-american-empire

You are indeed in delusion. I have posted this highly independent report from Danny Hiphong, an prominent human right activities which you purposely ignore. While all your so called independent news are nothing but NGO sponsor or indirectly CIA funded.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

LOL.. Lose like you run out of credible counter points and you can only nitpick on this insignificant things....
In China, high wall, steel gates and security police entrance at vocational school entrance are common. Whats so wooha about it? The so called #university entrance photo u post are not the actual one. That is after the main entrance.

Ah yes, I keep forgetting China is not as safe a country as portrayed and needs armed security around their schools. Thanks for reminding everybody for me.

 

[Beast]

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Ah yes, I keep forgetting China is not as safe a country as portayed and needs armed security around their schools. Thanks for reminding everybody for me.

Another cheapshot.. Unlike some war shooting war mongering country..

 

[beijingwalker]

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Ah yes, I keep forgetting China is not as safe a country as portrayed and needs armed security around their schools. Thanks for reminding everybody for me.

LOL, America is safe? Ask US expats lived in China and find out your surprise.