Donald Trump: US needs to stay in Afghanistan to protect Pakistani nuclear weapons

[ito]

I expected no quality from your response and I am not surprised to see sheer idiotic behavior!!!! I am on topic. If its about Trump and Pakistan, then who invited Indian trolls to it? And what makes you think you have the moral authority to speak on Pakistani nukes? Shouldn't you be worried about your nukes getting into the hands of Hindu extremists?

They kill just as barbarically as the other terrorists......there is a reason why so many US law makers are very concerned about India right now, thus the most recent letter (and this isn't the first one, Obama openly asked Modi multiple times to control his religious nut cases who brutally kill Indian minorities who are ALSO Indian citizens). You want to play fair, then write about your own shiit too. Don't just think the side you are on, is pure like Water and the other side is the worst ever. From an independent pair of eyes like mine and everyone else's, shiit it shiit, both Indian and Pakistani, it looks like it, it smells like it too.

And as far as "what you said on the other thread".....you saw my response too. You'll write bullshiit, I'll make you smell your own as that's the write thing to do when people ignore how bad their shiit smells and how many innocents get killed inside India every day. So my suggestion, face the reality and debate with me, or go find a pro-India forum, where everyone sings about how great India is and no one brings the laundry out. I also told you that I was all about mutual respect. But do you understand that? If you did, you, out of conviction and shame (due to what happens inside India by Hindu extremists to Indian minorities), won't comment on other countries and nations out of sheer hate and prejudice. Like I said, be fair and I'll respect you. Be bias and show your hate, I'll be ALL over you!!!! Here, re-iteration of the links:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/24/obama-india-trip/22211157/

http://winteryknight.com/tag/hindu-extremist/



@waz @Irfan Baloch : Guys, read the entire thread before you get a billion requests to ban me, including probably a call from Modi's office . All I ask these guys, is to be fair when you comment and don't troll based on your own personal hatred towards others, (Pakistan in this case).



Sorry, I misunderstood as I was skimming through these posts. Yea, unfortunately, when you deal with our Indian members on here, you get a LOT of fake data, links, articles and "analysts" commenting about Pakistan (out of sheer hate and ignorance due to Indo-Pak drama). A lot of these "opinions" are made up and may not exist in real life, kind of that infomercials we see in the US, with a body builder showing us a $ 5.99 jumping rope that he uses and it built his body in 90 days (which otherwise takes 10 years of workout, 3 hours a day and roids to take with it). Similar to that Latino examples you gave me.



That's really funny .

You are too emotional. Objectivity and a little bit of laconic with your writing will help others in understanding the gist of what you want to convey, because it is hard to winnow from the hotchpotch you write.

 

[Viper0011.]

You are too emotional. Objectivity and a little bit of laconic with your writing will help others in understanding the gist of what you want to convey, because it is hard to winnow from the hotchpotch you write.

Damn, you just called me an Indian? I am not, thank you. Remember, emotional = Indian in my books. Next, your posts are so filled with fake virtual reality supreme being pride and utter lying, made up garbage that I don't even want to trash your posts into my garbage bin. It would stink up to a degree that I'd have to discard it and buy a new one

 

[ito]

Damn, you just called me an Indian? I am not, thank you. Remember, emotional = Indian in my books. Next, your posts are so filled with fake virtual reality supreme being pride and utter lying, made up garbage that I don't even want to trash your posts into my garbage bin. It would stink up to a degree that I'd have to discard it and buy a new one

No, you are not an Indian. Anyway, you must be first one to call Indians emotional. Because all Pakistanis on this forum call Indians too cunning and too rational. They even have a name for us Indians: Baniyas

 

[CHD]

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Really? You didn't take him seriously when he said "Ïndians are taking American jobs from us"......but today, he made a statement about Pakistan and you are running commercials?

I am as Republicans as they come. But allow me to tell you, this fool will break the Republican base. What he says (and does and show offs), has nothing to do with Republican agendas and values. A few thousand little to mid level educated people without any global experience making a "Trump Nation" don't count. The guy is a Con artists as Mitt Romney and others said it. He's not running for the Republican party, he's in business to RUIN the Republican base and damage it. Have you heard any of his speeches? 90% or more of the time, his mouth is too busy appreciating himself and showing off. 90+ percent of his speeches are "I, the trump, own this, that, I can deal with law suits, I do business worth billions, I have friends from Zoo to Muslims to Martians and the Chinese, who all tell me about things and exactly how to hate them and break the American society's civil fabric that keeps us together".

Post someone with credentials. Sadly, I've always considered Trump as my indirect mentor in some real estate deals. But this show off and a total lack of a Presidential personality isn't right for the us. This fool has Hitler like traits. No Republican family man or woman wants their kids to watch TV and hear about someone talking about his Penis, who is running for the US Presidency. This is like a Thug put on for a show. Democrats will have a field day on election day as this idiot will break our own vote base.

Watch, the Republican party doesn't want him either. There is an effort going on internally to deny him of the delegates he needs, to run for the nomination. Then, he may be forced to leave and do an independent run, which is much better than damaging the fabric of the Republican party, the principles, the rules and values we all stand for, UNITED under one flag

When at the start Trump was giving the statements about Mexicans and muslims at that time i told my friend that Trump is acting as the Bad Cop for Hilary clinton and their is no way americans will vote him to the commander in chief and Trump will make this a catwalk for hilary in General elections.

 

[HAIDER]

There is a saying that has developed because of that. No one really fears the country that has 500 nuclear weapons. Everyone fears the guy who has one nuclear weapon.

No worried Pak been nuclear power since early 80s..US has good working relationship, since last decades.

 

[IceCold]

Trump is an idiot and he has proven it time and time again but if he gets to the oval office he would get back to his senses. I remember even Obama use to make similar statements before election, heck he did not even tried to visit Pakistan but he came to his senses. Trump will too. Hopefully.

On a side note i have always been an advocate of Pakistan increasing the range of its missile program just in case shit hits the fan. American has threaten us to bomb us back to stone age. If morons like Trump run for elections in USA and gets elected, one cannot deny the possibility of a conflict which can only be avoided if the other party knows it too that they are not far from reach and they too can be hit hard if push comes to shove.

And please say no to more F-16s

 

[Kao Boy]

It has nothing to do with my not "having access to census data". It has everything to do with the specific data posted by the person I was responding to. His data made no reference to Latinos whatsoever so of course, that 18% in his data would mean they were part of his "white American" category

The reason I did not mention it because it is altogether a different categorisation in US census... My only agenda in my last reply was to qiute why Trump can't win simple...

Here you go : Date taken from CIA fact book

white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic..

For the SAME reason why Indian Hindu majority killing her minorities and conducting similar terrorism is totally ignored. That magic word is called "Trade" and a second supporting word is called "China". But sad part is, India will never fight the Chinese with the US. India wants the US and the Chinese to fight each other and weakened down. So India can be the super power........
So when one country is involved with terrorism, which is the worst thing to be involved with, sadly, we talk about their nukes. When another country, who does trillions of trade is involved in similar activities, we call them our strategic ally because of the huge amount of business we do with them. Pretty easy to understand right?

Oh Hello... please before you even think to take on on any terrorism related issue even in the smallest land of this world.. You and your Govt. got to answer many immorality, unethical acts and violations you have been doing all around the world... And I bet you will spend nights in starry skies to answer and all you would be able to justify is Oil and Selling weapons... Dude... Dnt be a think tank for other minortities here... Go clean your own mess you have spilled in Middle east first...

 

[EAK]

@ito .. Dude that viper guy kicked your @$$ & handed it to you literally.. Now don't embarrass yourself more out of sheer embarrassment . lol .. Every one knows about your hatred for Pakistan and propagating your garbage about it.....save your anti-Pakistan agenda for another day.. cause today you look like a dog in a rain with NO SHELTER..

 

[Dalit]

Well, at least Trump is being honest about something which has covertly been going on for years now. Like as if the Pakistanis didn't know that the Americans are in Afghanistan for Pak nukes. The writing is and always has been on the wall.

The way I see it, time to be open about everything. I'm glad that Trump has raised the issue in the open. I'm also glad that Trump has admitted India's role in denuclearizing Pakistan.

We too need to be very open and clear about our desire to protect our assets against those that seek to denuclearize and turn us into an Iraq/Afghanistan. We need to make it clear how far we are willing to go to protect our assets just so the message gets across loud and clear.

Pakistanis seeking F-16s, aid or friendship with their American comrades better deal with this inconvenient truth.

 

[Mrc]

It has do with more with Pakistan's behavior. There are around 8 nuclear powers and why only Pakistan is singled out every time? You cannot explicitly say why you have nukes, you cannot say you don't care even if the debt swells to $100 trillion but would maintain nukes. It shows that everything in Pakistan revolve around its nukes. And that is dangerous.

There are some nuclear powers for whom americans dont feel that they are any threat....

These ones are just push overs...

Russians and chinese are too powerfull...

So that leaves pakistan

 

[Dalit]

There are some nuclear powers for whom americans dont feel that they are any threat....

These ones are just push overs...

Russians and chinese are too powerfull...

So that leaves pakistan

Pakistan US relation has always revolved around hate and necessity. We all remember the economic sanctions prior to Pakistan being a nuclear power. The truth is that Pakistan US relations are bitter. They are mired with distrust, hate and confusion. Even long before Pakistan becoming nuclear. Over the years the relation has got more bitter and ugly. The nukes are just one tiny aspect of it.

The nuclear weapons are now obviously a point of contention. That will remain until Pakistan has nuclear weapons. The Americans would have leveled Pakistan to the ground after 9/11. We all know what stopped these people from doing so. We are not under any illusion.

Trump is doing Pakistan a huge favor. He is playing open cards and that means no room for any misunderstanding. Once he becomes the president we know what to expect which is open hostility. Everytime an American raises the issue of nukes we will become more vigilant and emboldened. Our nukes are after all our jugular veins. You know what happens when someone touches your jugular veins. No matter how weak or small a person maybe.

 

[Desertfalcon]

white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic..

The Hispanic population is a higher percentage than that now. The last census figures show it to be 17% of the US population but even that is old. Current surveys show it to be closer to 18%. Also, Asian-Americans now make up 6% of the population. (Links below.). So lets simplify it by just adding up the top four minority ethnic groups, (the overwhelming majority of whom, now vote essentially, for the Democratic Party.)

Hispanics: 18%
Blacks: 12.85%
Asian: 6%
Multiracial: 2.5%
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= 39.35% of the American people. That is not all of course, and then there are the other factors like where they live, i.e., the Electoral College, but suffice it to say, that is a tough hill for Mr. Trump to climb.

Percentage of US population that is Latino - Google Search

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Asian_Americans

 

[Kao Boy]

So lets simplify it by just adding up the top four minority ethnic groups, (the overwhelming majority of whom, now vote essentially, for the Democratic Party.)

Absolutely! but the date which you have picked us is from either wiki or google.. I relied CIA fact book for the data but that's okay... I am fine till the time this Moron is out of Power..

 

[T-Rex]

Russia needs to be in Mexico to protect American nuclear weapons from donald ducks.

That's the best reply here. Most Pakistanis whine about uncle sam's bias but fail to come up with an appropriate response. Life's a bitch and if you can't learn to tackle the wolves you deserve to be in their stomach. In this world where might is right if you show too much sensitivity and civility it is perceived as signs of weakness and you know what happens to the weak in a herd when it is detected by the wolves.

 

[Kao Boy]

Pakistan US relation has always revolved around hate and necessity. We all remember the economic sanctions prior to Pakistan being a nuclear power. The truth is that Pakistan US relations are bitter. They are mired with distrust, hate and confusion. Even long before Pakistan becoming nuclear. Over the years the relation has got more bitter and ugly. The nukes are just one tiny aspect of it.

The nuclear weapons are now obviously a point of contention. That will remain until Pakistan has nuclear weapons. The Americans would have leveled Pakistan to the ground after 9/11. We all know what stopped these people from doing so. We are not under any illusion.

Trump is doing Pakistan a huge favor. He is playing open cards and that means no room for any misunderstanding. Once he becomes the president we know what to expect which is open hostility. Everytime an American raises the issue of nukes we will become more vigilant and emboldened. Our nukes are after all our jugular veins. You know what happens when someone touches your jugular veins. No matter how weak or small a person maybe.

Any American president will do the same thing .. They know AfPak both are vulnerable and will support other to check each other...