ashok321
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 1, 2010
- Messages
- 17,942
- Reaction score
- 4
- Country
- Location
Doklam Standoff Final Result
- Thread starter ThinkLogically
- Start date
ashok321
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 1, 2010
- Messages
- 17,942
- Reaction score
- 4
- Country
- Location
litman
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 14, 2016
- Messages
- 4,773
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
expected result. both india and china cant afford to have a conflict. both are growing economies. china aims at the world while india aims at china. with some tension in south china sea with US and tension in the korean peninsula china can't afford to open even a small battle zone with india.
Brahmos_2
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2013
- Messages
- 1,412
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
Doklam row: China removes road-building equipment from face-off site
NEW DELHI: In a diplomatic victory, India and China have agreed to "disengage" from the stand-off in Doklam on Bhutanese territory.
After almost 10 weeks of sustained negotiations between top-level Indian and Chinese officials, the MEA on Monday said "expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site at Doklam has been agreed to and is on-going."
By the end of the day, as Indian troops withdrew from their post at Doka La, Chinese troops and their road-building equipment too were removed from the face-off site. The standoff has been on since June 16 when Indian troops physically stopped the PLA from building a road on Doklam plateau. In a second statement at the end of the day, MEA confirmed that both sides had moved out "under verification."
The negotiations were conducted at various levels — first, during the visit by NSA Ajit Doval to China in July, where he held discussions with his counterpart Yang Jiechi. Next, foreign secretary S Jaishankar led the diplomatic talks with the Chinese side, helped by India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, who worked ceaselessly with the Chinese government over the last couple of months to achieve an outcome that would be acceptable to both sides.
The MEA spokesperson said that in numerous meetings between the Indian and Chinese officials in the past couple of months, India has been successful in conveying its "concerns and interests." "In recent weeks, India and China have maintained diplomatic communication in respect of the incident at Doklam. During these communications, we were able to express our views and convey our concerns and interests."
The disengagement comes ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to China for the BRICS summit. It also comes before a crucial 19th party congress in China where Xi Jinping expects to be "cleared" for another five years and he will choose the core group of leaders who will rule China for the next five years.
The Indians went in with some demands:
This was detailed by external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj in parliament where she said, "Point 13 of the common understanding states that "The tri-junction boundary points between India, China and third countries will be finalised in consultation with the concerned countries." Since 2012, we have not held any discussion on the tri-junction with Bhutan. The Chinese action in the Doklam area is therefore of concern."
While China was breathing fire in the public domain, during the negotiations, sources said, India held the line that bilateral relations would be affected if China did not ensure "peace and tranquillity" on the border. This could happen only if there was a reversal to the status quo. The two sides only came to an understanding after continued conversations and a realisation in China that India would not move from the ground until they withdrew.
In addition, India also provided China with a face-saving exit. China's initial response on Monday morning was to confine itself to saying that only Indian troops had withdrawn from the site, and that they would continue to "maintain sovereignty"on the Doklam plateau. India did not contest this publicly until in the afternoon, when a second Indian statement clarified that both sides had withdrawn "under verification."
Top-level sources also clarified that India had not asked either the US or Russia to intervene on its behalf. While Russia maintained a studied silence, the US made a general statement calling for peaceful negotiations. It was only Japan which issued a detailed statement on the Doklam issue, largely taking the Indian point of view.
What is not yet clear is whether this disengagement would lead to boundary negotiations between India and China in the coming months. There have been no boundary negotiations for some years.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-from-face-off-site/articleshow/60262735.cms
NEW DELHI: In a diplomatic victory, India and China have agreed to "disengage" from the stand-off in Doklam on Bhutanese territory.
After almost 10 weeks of sustained negotiations between top-level Indian and Chinese officials, the MEA on Monday said "expeditious disengagement of border personnel at the face-off site at Doklam has been agreed to and is on-going."
By the end of the day, as Indian troops withdrew from their post at Doka La, Chinese troops and their road-building equipment too were removed from the face-off site. The standoff has been on since June 16 when Indian troops physically stopped the PLA from building a road on Doklam plateau. In a second statement at the end of the day, MEA confirmed that both sides had moved out "under verification."
The negotiations were conducted at various levels — first, during the visit by NSA Ajit Doval to China in July, where he held discussions with his counterpart Yang Jiechi. Next, foreign secretary S Jaishankar led the diplomatic talks with the Chinese side, helped by India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, who worked ceaselessly with the Chinese government over the last couple of months to achieve an outcome that would be acceptable to both sides.
The MEA spokesperson said that in numerous meetings between the Indian and Chinese officials in the past couple of months, India has been successful in conveying its "concerns and interests." "In recent weeks, India and China have maintained diplomatic communication in respect of the incident at Doklam. During these communications, we were able to express our views and convey our concerns and interests."
The disengagement comes ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to China for the BRICS summit. It also comes before a crucial 19th party congress in China where Xi Jinping expects to be "cleared" for another five years and he will choose the core group of leaders who will rule China for the next five years.
The Indians went in with some demands:
- That China should not change the ground realities unilaterally.
- That China should respect the the 2012 understanding on tri-junctions.
This was detailed by external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj in parliament where she said, "Point 13 of the common understanding states that "The tri-junction boundary points between India, China and third countries will be finalised in consultation with the concerned countries." Since 2012, we have not held any discussion on the tri-junction with Bhutan. The Chinese action in the Doklam area is therefore of concern."
While China was breathing fire in the public domain, during the negotiations, sources said, India held the line that bilateral relations would be affected if China did not ensure "peace and tranquillity" on the border. This could happen only if there was a reversal to the status quo. The two sides only came to an understanding after continued conversations and a realisation in China that India would not move from the ground until they withdrew.
In addition, India also provided China with a face-saving exit. China's initial response on Monday morning was to confine itself to saying that only Indian troops had withdrawn from the site, and that they would continue to "maintain sovereignty"on the Doklam plateau. India did not contest this publicly until in the afternoon, when a second Indian statement clarified that both sides had withdrawn "under verification."
Top-level sources also clarified that India had not asked either the US or Russia to intervene on its behalf. While Russia maintained a studied silence, the US made a general statement calling for peaceful negotiations. It was only Japan which issued a detailed statement on the Doklam issue, largely taking the Indian point of view.
What is not yet clear is whether this disengagement would lead to boundary negotiations between India and China in the coming months. There have been no boundary negotiations for some years.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t-from-face-off-site/articleshow/60262735.cms
Mr.Cringeworth
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 30, 2017
- Messages
- 703
- Reaction score
- -1
- Country
- Location
ThinkLogically
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 29, 2013
- Messages
- 821
- Reaction score
- -16
- Country
- Location
He has completely lost his senses today after his master's climb down of Himalayan magnitude.
First apologize for disrespecting my country's soldiers and Indian citizens of Hindu religion.
Kiss_of_the_Dragon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 20, 2011
- Messages
- 10,253
- Reaction score
- 11
- Country
- Location
1. India withdraws from chinese territory.
2. chinese agreeing to halt construction in its own territory. Agreeing to never construct again.
3. chinese pla going back within its own territory to the pre standoff position.
4. Now all three sides can patrol the disputed territory. It is a disputed territory as per the chinese agreement with Bhutan.
Yeah! It's a big win for the chinese. OH MY GOD!!!! What a victory for the cheerleaders!!!
Such premature claimed
.
ito
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 5, 2014
- Messages
- 9,177
- Reaction score
- -33
- Country
- Location
1. India withdraws from chinese territory.
2. chinese agreeing to halt construction in its own territory. Agreeing to never construct again.
3. chinese pla going back within its own territory to the pre standoff position.
4. Now all three sides can patrol the disputed territory. It is a disputed territory as per the chinese agreement with Bhutan.
Yeah! It's a big win for the chinese. OH MY GOD!!!! What a victory for the cheerleaders!!!
What a kick.
ashok321
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Nov 1, 2010
- Messages
- 17,942
- Reaction score
- 4
- Country
- Location
I gave some examples of Hindi script for you to translate.
What I got from you was?
The following stupid reply = Lol
Do you have any credibility senior?
Its time I do away with the likes of you.
IGNORED.
ThinkLogically
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 29, 2013
- Messages
- 821
- Reaction score
- -16
- Country
- Location
He ran away like a Ranchordas.
Mr.Cringeworth
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Mar 30, 2017
- Messages
- 703
- Reaction score
- -1
- Country
- Location
WhyCry
BANNED
- Joined
- Aug 6, 2015
- Messages
- 993
- Reaction score
- -46
- Country
- Location
Yaar you do so much drama...
Tell me which daal is Rs. 200?
Gas ki subsidy cheen li? Abe it will be now given back in bank account directly. There is a option to voluntarily give up subsidy.
Job nahi mil rahi... I will give you that since the rate of new people coming onto the age of 25 is less than the new people employed. But in most cases they don't have skill to get the job/s. There is a reason Mr. Modi started skill india project.
Ab modi modi nahi toh rahul-rahul karega. But you continue drama-drama.
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report
- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
-
Bajwa calls Bushra's allegations against Saudi Arabia 'baseless'
- Latest: Novus ordu seclorum
