Doklam 2018 - Forecast

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Problem with your ****'s is you always underestimate India and history repeats. It is very nice opportunity to prick the shooper power wana be china's bubble.

Can you really blame them for this?

Many Pakistanis here believe PLA is a level higher than IA.

In 1971 IA did a blitz kreig into East Pakistan and reached Dhaka in less than two weeks by taking cross country routes and bypassing all Pakistani defenses that were setup on roads.

Hence Pakistanis think PLA can outdo what IA did in 1971 today in the Himalayas at Doklam regardless of the significant difference in both terrains

 

[Han Patriot]

These predictions on Doklam are getting funnier and funnier.

In the Doklam region China claims Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen. Buts has control over none.

The Chinese failed to take Batang La in 2007.

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20070803/282248071163205

As of 2017, they failed to take Doka La

But future predictions - China will reach Gymochen?


Any sane individual with common sense will realize that If PLA attempts to move South towards Gymochen then PLA will get sandwiched between Indian troops from Batang La and Doka La.

Without taking over Batang La, it was foolish of PLA even attempt to take Doka La and not surprisingly PLA faced resistance from two sides and eventually gave up in Doka La.

Its like saying PLA will reach Mexico by land through Canada and USA without taking over Canada and USA and not expecting any resistance from Canada or USA

Just because India could do a Blitz Krieg in East Pakistan 1971 Pakistanis here enamored by what IA did, think China can do the same in Himalayas.

No wonder a ex PLA colonel termed it a humiliating defeat for China:

“Despite Beijing’s deliberate ambiguity, China has apparently made substantial concessions in order to end the dispute,”

“India has got exactly what it has wanted. It was a humiliating defeat for China to cave in to pressure from India despite all the tough talk,”

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-learned-tense-china-india-border-row-it-will

Are you a RSS drone or something? I bet BJP pays you 50Rupees?

 

[Gurjot.S]

silliguri corridor cant be accessed by china even if they bring 100000 soldiers there. You can come but you will never go. Terrain dont support any invasion.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The road will never reach jamperi ridge,nor will it be extended forward towards it.They can build side tracks all they want to support their troops in doka la or in their own areas,they have already had a road since decades.But no forward extensions.

I have given you my prediction. In 12 months we will know who was right.

minute PLA tries to move the road forward towards jamperi we will intervene again and bulldoze it

As I have shown by the maps PLA have now parked infantry battalions that have taken permanent positions in Dokla La area. These units are to prevent any Indian attempt to intervene. You can but India will have to fight through PLA positions to be able to bulldoze anything.

Will India do that? I say no. Time will tell. Watch this space.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

I have given you my prediction. In 12 months we will know who was right.

As I have shown by the maps PLA have now parked infantry battalions that have taken permanent positions in Dokla La area. These units are to prevent any Indian attempt to intervene. You can but India will have to fight through PLA positions to be able to bulldoze anything.

Will India do that? I say no. Time will tell. Watch this space.

Indeed lets see.But we have the military power advantage in that region since we flank the chinese from both sides and have the high ground for our artillery,we are not worried.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

we are not worried.

You are. What exactly was the ruckus last summer about?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

You are. What exactly was the ruckus last summer about?

The ruckus was about them coming close to jamperi ridge.When i say i'm not worried i mean that IA will not allow PLA to achieve that advantage,not that i'm not worried about the attempt of PLA.We have overall military superiority in the region due to terrain and positions,thats why i'm not worried militarily if there is a skirmish because PLA is outgunned in sikkim sector and out of position.

But as you said ,let us see.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

1971 IA did a blitz kreig into East Pakistan

A people who were slaved for 1,000 years do not have it in their genetics to do "Blitzkreig". If helping to defeat a small force off 55k that was 1,300 miles distant from home surrounded by ocean of piss offed Banglas, that was besieged by Mukhti Bahini terrorists, that faced 1:50 odds is in your estimation Blitzkrieg I feel sorry for you. You people are the puffs of Asia. Now that you face a enemy that is has the same mass as you - it can only mean repeat of 1962. You will get dog whipped.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The ruckus was about them coming close to jamperi ridge.When i say i'm not worried i mean that IA will not allow PLA to achieve that advantage,not that i'm not worried about the attempt of PLA.We have overall military superiority in the region due to terrain and positions,thats why i'm not worried militarily if there is a skirmish because PLA is outgunned in sikkim sector and out of position.

But as you said ,let us see.

Just so, IMO the 2017 Doka La intrusion by PLA was more political in nature with a goal of punishing Bhutan for siding with India OBOR.

Probably PLA didn't anticipate quick response by IA, despite Doka La being in Bhutan

 

[Indus Pakistan]

coming close to jamperi ridge

Thereby you confirm that Jampheri Ridge is the crux of the matter here. Chinese will resume what they tried in summer again next year but this time there will be PLA protecting the flank. The road will be extended with the PLA infantry giving flank covering. By next year expect satellite imagery showing the road being extended. So let us wait till then.

How am I so sure? Why has PLA moved nearly two battalions adjacent to the Dokla La point that are being permanently based there? They have built hardened firing positions etc. This is as much a change in status quo that can be expect. Why all this effort? Simple, it is securing the flank for next year so that any potential Indian "intervention" is blocked by PLA.

And if India was in such a great position by having both flanks hemming in the Chinese why would a poxy road cause India to take such a action last summer? Makes you think?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

A people who were slaved for 1,000 years do not have it in their genetics to do "Blitzkreig". If helping to defeat a small force off 55k that was 1,300 miles distant from home surrounded by ocean of piss offed Banglas, that was besieged by Mukhti Bahini terrorists, that enoyed 1:50 advantage is in your estimation Blitzkrieg I feel soory for you. You people are the puffs of Asia. Now that you face a enemy that is has the same mass as you - it can only mean repeat of 1962. You will get dog whipped.

Goal of blitzkrieg is bypassing enemy defenses and thereby avoiding a war of attrition.

IA did that in 1971 by deploying troops in East Pakistan by airdrop and avoiding Pakistani checkpoints on roads by taking routes from rural countryside to reach Dhaka.

If IA engaged PA in war attrition a humiliating un-conditional surrender would have not occurred in less than 2 weeks.

You can continue to be salty about 90,000+ surrender figure, half nation lost in less than 14 days.

It doesn't change IA achieved a blitzkrieg or perhaps people who slaved for over 2400 years lack it in their genetics to parse all this.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You can continue to be salty about 90,000 surrender, half nation lost in less than 14 days.

The figure is 55k. Salty? Never will I be salty in front of a Hindu. German, Turks, Persians maybe. A Hindu from Ganga? Hahaha never. The whole lot of yee besides the Sikhs, few Parsi's are nothing but just good for using when there are no females about. Perfect Gangoo matarial.

 

[Gurjot.S]

A people who were slaved for 1,000 years do not have it in their genetics to do "Blitzkreig". If helping to defeat a small force off 55k that was 1,300 miles distant from home surrounded by ocean of piss offed Banglas, that was besieged by Mukhti Bahini terrorists, that faced 1:50 odds is in your estimation Blitzkrieg I feel sorry for you. You people are the puffs of Asia. Now that you face a enemy that is has the same mass as you - it can only mean repeat of 1962. You will get dog whipped.

which 1000 years slavery you are talking abt ? Those who got enslaved converted into islam and those who fought, lived with their faith.

On 1 side you are making excuse of being outnumbered in 1971 and fyi, india was also outnumbered in 62. There were 80k chinese fighting against 8k indians there widout any support from govt.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Thereby you confirm that Jampheri Ridge is the crux of the matter here. Chinese will resume what they tried in summer again next year but this time there will be PLA protecting the flank. The road will be extended with the PLA infantry giving flank covering. By next year expect satellite imagery showing the road being extended. So let us wait till then.

How am I so sure? Why has PLA moved nearly two battalions adjacent to the Dokla La point that are being permanently based there? They have built hardened firing positions etc. This is as much a change in status quo that can be expect. Why all this effort? Simple, it is securing the flank for next year so that any potential "intervention" is blocked by PLA.

And if India was in such a great position by having both flanks hemming in the Chinese why would a poxy road cause India to take such a action last summer? Makes you think?

Having them reaching jamperi would allow them to reverse their weak position in sikkim sector as it would allow their artillery observation posts to rain accurate fire on supply line to sikkim and give them the high ground compromising one of our flanks.Nothing will change in status quo,PLA has moved in 2 mere battalions,lol.We have a full infantry corps and an armoured regiment in sikkim -over 50,000 troops.If we retaliate they will have nowhere to run.They just have 2 acclimatized brigades on the border,all the rest of their forces are in the interior.PLA can put on a show and do nothing else,if they try we will move in and they will go and cry to world media like they did last time with photos of indian bulldozers destroying the construction.As you said just wait and see,nothing will happen.Xi will give some feel good to his fanboys to appease them,but nothing major changes on the ground.If they want a major change they will have to go to war with us.Like the fmr foreign secretary himself has said in the past -

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The figure is 55k. Salty? Never will I be salty in front of a Hindu. German, Turks, Persians maybe. A Hindu from Ganga? Hahaha never. The whole lot of yee besides the Sikhs, few Parsi's are nothing but just good for using when there are no females about.

I am not going to into details of what happened to women folk in a region under 2400 years foreign rule even if some of it is boasted with pride among your people like what a certain Arab invader did to Sindhi Raja's daughters.

Perfect Gangoo matarial.

Gangoo material like Mauryans rescued your kind from Greek rule, and some element of Greek rule over your kind is seen in your culture in regards to dancing boys.