Does Pakistan have..

[Wolfhunter]

It would be nice if any of the senior members of PDF could contribute to this thread. It's a very good question.

 

[Chhatrapati]

But ex Indian army guys have operated in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yes, the talented ones have been going as RA&W operatives, yet we have a very meagre fund for intelligence operations, and we also don't have that many operatives there may be few operatives in Afghan for embassy protection and intelligence gathering. I don't know anything about Iraq, if you have any sources, I'll be happy to read on.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Yes, the talented ones have been going as RA&W operatives, yet we have a very meagre fund for intelligence operations, and we also don't have that many operatives there may be few operatives in Afghan for embassy protection and intelligence gathering. I don't know anything about Iraq, if you have any sources, I'll be happy to read on.

https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/our-hitmen-in-iraq/223783
https://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/05/200849134813281811.html

 

[Divergent]

@Irfan Baloch @Hyperion @Path-Finder @BHarwana @Stealth

Your input would be great.

 

[Path-Finder]

@Irfan Baloch @Hyperion @Path-Finder @BHarwana @Stealth

Your input would be great.

Well i was a very strong advocate and still am but other members weren't. There are more than enough highly trained personal that can form such cadre of private military.

There is ofcourse need to have a backing from the gov but not this gov.

 

[YeBeWarned]

The deadlier the better...
Include NDS, RAW etc. in the list....
It needs to be so meticulous that even if the scums share the bed with Ghani/Abdullah etc. their throats get split....

let the NDS/RAW have fun in the cover of CIA and MOSSAD .. I will see what are their true Capabilities when Americans are not backing them ..

 

[BHarwana]

@Irfan Baloch @Hyperion @Path-Finder @BHarwana @Stealth

Your input would be great.

Private military contractors is very old idea it started with British east India company then it developed into Mujahideens fighting soviet and then those Mujahideens were turned into Al-Qaida and then there was Black waters that was introduced and so on war is profitable and it is always private after the democracy. like now wars are being fought for Lockheed Martin rather than kings.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

It's a grey area!

some of the Security Companies have gaurds very well armed and trained they can be used for military operations

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[Maarkhoor]

Mercenaries. Not undercover operatives that are still part of the Armed Forces, but private hired mercenaries. To my knowledge Contracted operatives arent used for kills by any country. PMC's or Private military contractors are usually used to provide security role like Wagner of Russia or Academy in US. Pakistan or India don't have any PMC.

Correct me if I’m wrong.

Divergent

We Pakistani feel proud to serve for our Nation even it is without pay like we have Mujahid force initially they are virtually free but now getting into mainstream.

We don't need paid mercenaries like U.S, soldier who served in Iraq for few years got experience then resign from services and start working as paid killers for U.S army and at any time U.S Govt and army denied or refuse to own their barbaric action.

So do they yes or no? So far it’s a no as I suspected.

No, not for fighting war but we have many private security companies who hired retired soldiers who just act like guards.

et we have a very meagre fund for intelligence operations,

As per various sources your R&AW invested 500 million USD to sabotage SPEC and bro this is not a meager amount but your investment going to gutter day by day since China and Pakistan committed to complete the CPEC at any cost.

 

[Chhatrapati]

As per ISPR the R&AW invested 500 million USD to sabotage SPEC and bro this is not a meager amount but your investment going to gutter day by day since China and Pakistan committed to complete the CPEC at any cost.

I call bull sh*t on that.

Also, corrected.

 

[Wolfhunter]

some of the Security Companies have gaurds very well armed and trained they can be used for military operations

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Rofl what the actual F is this? Talk about. All the gear and NO idea. Are they actually going “bang bang” when the instructor shouts up?

You put these guys in a military operation and they will get shredded. The first guy looks obese and it’s not all about big guns and shiny uniforms.

We Pakistani feel proud to serve for our Nation even it is without pay like we have Mujahid force initially they are virtually free but now getting into mainstream.

We don't need paid mercenaries like U.S, soldier who served in Iraq for few years got experience then resign from services and start working as paid killers for U.S army and at any time U.S Govt and army denied or refuse to own their barbaric action.


No, not for fighting war but we have many private security companies who hired retired soldiers who just act like guards.


As per various sources your R&AW invested 500 million USD to sabotage SPEC and bro this is not a meager amount but your investment going to gutter day by day since China and Pakistan committed to complete the CPEC at any cost.

Can you tell me about “Mujahid” force. Is it an auxiliary arm of the Pakistan Army or is it likes levies or something to like the Razakar movement of East Pakistan?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Can you tell me about “Mujahid” force. Is it an auxiliary arm of the Pakistan Army or is it likes levies or something to like the Razakar movement of East Pakistan?

Now they are proper regiment of Pakistan army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahid_Force_Regiment

 

[Wolfhunter]

Now they are proper regiment of Pakistan army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahid_Force_Regiment

Thank you for that link let me look at this for a second.

Now they are proper regiment of Pakistan army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahid_Force_Regiment

Ah okay understood they are an auxiliary force, we have a similar structure in he U.K. called the Territorial Army, most university students join up for 2-4 years for the officer course or you can join as a solider.

I did theee years in Signals as. TA solider .

 

[Divergent]

Thank you. Some people have tendency of chatting shit @Horus

 

[ptldM3]

Private military contractors is very old idea it started with British east India company then it developed into Mujahideens fighting soviet and then those Mujahideens were turned into Al-Qaida and then there was Black waters that was introduced and so on war is profitable and it is always private after the democracy. like now wars are being fought for Lockheed Martin rather than kings.

Contractors are convinent in the fact that they are often ex special forces or police swat, so they are much more capable and reliable then some random militia. Another big plus is that no one really cares if contractors die (sad but true). This means government can pay contractors to do much of the dirty work and if they die there will not be any blowback at home.