Does China Run Hollywood?

[Hamartia Antidote]

In fact, the so called "Chinese Factor of Hollywood" only exist in these people eyes, when they compare the Hollywood Movie screen in China as a totaly gross, you will understand the different.

The problem is, movies is just on a different world between the two, Chinese movie were not at all stimulating anything in hollywood, however, the reverse is true where Hollywood Movie sometimes to always score big in China, the problem is, any movie do great in China, they also do great in the rest of the world (beside the Chinese Themed Movie) For example, if we uses Resident Evil again as an example, you will see more or less 50% of the foreign box office for every one of them is from Japan. The question is, can we say RE series movie should be make for Japan? How about China? When the latest number crunched to 40% of the international box office. Thn should we start making movie out of everywhere just to get a certain percent of the "international pies"?

What has been doing now is to move a Hollywood movie directly to Chinese Market, the question remain, if a Hollywood movie do well in a foreign market, it have nothing to do with that movie being Chinese Themed, Bollywood Themed, J-Pop Themed, or K-Pop Themed, they do well because that is what the movie does, an American Script on American Actor. The Great Wall has taught us that anything other than that would basically lose the audience base and upset the balance, well, at leat not for the near future. Hollywood would never, ever accept a script that would not be selling well in Hollywood.

By the way, in case people don't know Resident Evil is made by Contantine Film, Capcom inc and Sony (via Sony America, via Sony Media Entertainment via Screen Gem), not one of these are American Company.....Contantine is German, Capcom and Sony both are Japanese....

Well certainly whatever movie is made they have to take into high consideration the non-(US+China) market. If that market doesn't want to see your film then you probably aren't going to have a blockbuster. Even Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon didn't make the top 10. Could it be bias to subtitles? I don't know.

China has had only one movie top $400M domestically. This is compared to almost a given that a top 10 movie will get 400M+ consistently in the non-(US+China) market (with $600M for a few movies on the top end). It's also not unexpected to see the US in the $400M range in some of those top movies too.

So unless somebody knows a consistent way of grabbing $400M+ from the non-(US+China) market + getting $400M from China (Transformers?) they are going to stick with targeting the US market over China.

 

[jhungary]

Well certainly whatever movie is made they have to take into high consideration the non-(US+China) market. If that market doesn't want to see your film then you probably aren't going to have a blockbuster. Even Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon didn't make the top 10. Could it be bias to subtitles? I don't know.

I think China has had very few movies top $400M domestically. This is compared to almost a given that a top 10 movie will get 400M+ consistently in the non-(US+China) market (with $600M for a few movies on the top end). It's also not unexpected to see the US in the $400M range in some of those top movies too.

So unless somebody knows a consistent way of grabbing $400M+ from the non-(US+China) market + getting $400M from China (Transformers?) they are going to stick with targeting the US market over China.

Actually, to be able to influence Hollywood, you will need at least 50% of overall box office. That mean Chinese Box office needed to be more than US/CA + Rest of World Combine.

The problem as I said before, is taht Chinese Audience is not drawing much, maybe there are a few 100M + box office here and there, but in the end, most of them are doing quite bismal. The Chinese cinema does not operate on a Hollywood Model, which is non-interferencing, so, in hollywood, you can't draw, you dies.

In China, the movie distriibution network is states own. Which mean whatever movie up on the screen in China (Hollywood or Local Production) they would have to be heavily supported by the government (China Daily even published an article critize the local film review form bad mouthing the great wall) But then, once you do that, you will get all sort of shit movie on and it still draw in China, because they are government controlled.

No matter how much you advertise a movie, it is not going to make it more than US + rest of the world combine, that'sjust impossible, and in the end, nobody in the world care about these Chinese crap movie hanging on about anywhere, that is the reason why Dalin Wanda keep buying Hollywood Studio and Movie Threatre chain, so they hope it can break into Hollywood. But the problem is, Wanda still operating the studio and the chain like they do in China, if things does not change for Wanda and Legendary, I can see Legendary will flow and Wanda will lose most of the US connection to Chinese movie, as this is not how Hollywood operate. You cannot force people to go to cinema in the US, not like you can do iit in China.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

they also owning legendary entertainment that made many big budget movies with very big box-office in hundreds of millions and some over a billion. that's one of the reason that hollywood starting to knowtowing to china lol

Well Legenday East's big budget epic blockbuster "The Great Wall" has received a lukewarm reception outside of China. It has pulled in only $160M from 65 overseas markets. That's pretty bad for a big budget movie.

Kong: Skull Island (made in Legendary's Hollywood studios) has proven much better with over $325M outside of China. Not bad but it's 2005 version made over $538M outside of China.

Wrong and wrong. LOL. The latest resident evil movie been showing in America for many weeks only make around 20 mil bucks. In China, they already made $94M in just 3 days

http://deadline.com/2017/02/residen...s-darker-international-box-office-1201999472/

Cherry picking movies doesn't mean anything.
The $1B+ world blockbuster Rogue One made more money in the UK than China. Should we target the UK instead since China is underwhelming?

Of the $312M Resident Evil made only $126M was outside the US and China. It isn't going to break into the top 10.

 

[Jlaw]

Does China Run Hollywood?

With China's market for movies expanding at an insane rate, Hollywood now has a powerful new audience to consider.


China's market for movies is expanding at an insane rate. Over the course of roughly a decade, the country's box office sales have grown almost twice as fast as their economy at large, and in 2017 movie sales in China are expected to outnumber those in the US. This is due, in no small part, to the country's rapidly growing middle class. An estimated 76 percent of China's urban population will be considered middle class by 2022.

So, Hollywood has an obvious financial incentive to appeal to a Chinese audience. But large production companies also have to consider whether their film will actually make it into Chinese theaters.

An international quota system sets a cap on the number of foreign films that can screen in the country each year. In 2016 it was just 34. And although there are no official rules outlining what kind of movies the government will accept, it's pretty much assumed that anything critical of China won't make the cut.

No

 

[patero]

Hollywood is mostly controlled by the talent agencies, most prominent are Creative Arts Agency, United Talent Agency and William Morris Endeavor. Apart from some indie movies, nothing gets made in Hollywood without the approval of these organizations because they control the actors, screenwriters, directors, producers and a host of other film making talent. Their influence extends to the deal making necessary to produce Hollywood movies, linking studios and producers with financiers, directors and actors and film making crews.

A good account of the power of CAA was provided in screenwriter Joe Ezterhaus's auto-biography. After a run in with then head of CAA Michael Ovitz, Ezterhaus was blacklisted and unable to work for anybody in Hollywood.

 

[shadows888]

This video is stupid. it's another propaganda video by the west for the China threat. IDK why you even link it to it. and all the american posters here are just as dumb.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Here are some facts with Beauty & the Beast backing up my points.

Worldwide Total $883M (after 17 days in the theaters)

US: $393M
China: $80M

Rest of world: $883M - ($393M + $80M) = $410M

So if you want a blockbuster you should target audiences in this order:
1) Rest of World: needs to make >$400M
2) US: try to get close to $400M
3) China: make something

 

[Solomon2]

It's IMPOSSIBLE that the Jews let loose their tight grip there!
Like the other medium of information/news media (printed, online, broadcast/TV Networks, voice/Radio Networks includes the book publications as well) in the USA, the entertainment, label records and movie industry in Hollywood are controlled mostly by the Jews. Any proposition suggests differently at current timeframe is surreal!

O.K., Jews are successful in Hollywood. Is there no way for you to accept that's because Jews are talented and have traditionally been pushed into the professions, not because Jews have an alleged "tight grip" on the media?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

O.K., Jews are successful in Hollywood. Is there no way for you to accept that's because Jews are talented and have traditionally been pushed into the professions, not because Jews have an alleged "tight grip" on the media?

I think much of it has to do with a long history of successful Jewish entertainers. You can't force people to be good entertainers. You either have it or you don't. Much like you can't force people to be great basketball players.