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Do Vietnam have these Ship ?

You need to learn more about history. China leader attend the Cairo Conference and issued the Declaration. That's the legal govt during WWII.
In the first place, China govt had protested the San Francisco conference, and stated every agreement signed were illegal to China govt.

So Japan could refer to what you said above and will say that what Japan given up in this conference is illegal to PRC and so on Taiwan, Pinghu ... Islands is still territory of Japan Imperial.
 
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So Japan could refer to what you said above and will say that what Japan given up in this conference is illegal to PRC and so on Taiwan, Pinghu ... Islands is still territory of Japan Imperial.

Learn history, my friend. Japan surrendered unconditionally.
 
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vietnam and china have not solved problem on Paracel islands yet, but now it turn to spratly .

because of oil and gas ? don't paracel have oil , ?
 
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Learn history, my friend. Japan surrendered unconditionally.

It doesn't mean that China or US can take Japan territory into his own.

vietnam and china have not solved problem on Paracel islands yet, but now it turn to spratly .

because of oil and gas ? don't paracel have oil , ?

the real intention of China is that, step by step China would like to swallow East Vietnam Sea. There is not too much oil or gas.
 
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It doesn't mean that China or US can take Japan territory into his own.



the real intention of China is that, step by step China would like to swallow East Vietnam Sea. There is not too much oil or gas.

That's not Japan territory, Japan occupied those islands illegally during WWII. By the way, before Japan forced France to sign ally with French Indo-China, Japan had occupied the SCS islands.
 
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That's not Japan territory, Japan occupied those islands illegally during WWII. By the way, before Japan forced France to sign ally with French Indo-China, Japan had occupied the SCS islands.

so Paracels and Spratly have to turn back to rightful owner : Vietnam, who is first claimed it controlled it from hundred years ago in the past. There was no troubles with China.

So that Claim of China is rejected by San Francisco Conference in general discussion. enough said.

Paracels Islands in map of Vietnam from time of Nguyen Dynasty.
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so Paracels and Spratly have to turn back to rightful owner : Vietnam, who is first claimed it controlled it from hundred years ago in the past. There was no troubles with China.

So that Claim of China is rejected by San Francisco Conference in general discussion. enough said.

Paracels Islands in map of Vietnam from time of Nguyen Dynasty.
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I trust this ancient map exist. But nowadays you enlarge or change the interpretation region of the Hoang Sa (黄沙)。

This is Vietnam's Hoang Sa near the coastline, not the Xisha islands (Paracels) we discuss here. By the way, before given the name of Paracels and Spratly, China had named those islands. You can search online there are several China's ancient maps referring to those islands, personal and official.
 
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I was wondering, wanna to know vietnam have these type of ship in their country

Our vietnam friends want to repeat China's success in building islands, however, they take things too easy. You know it is not only about absorbing sand from the seabed, tell your guys a secret, China started to studying the alien tech about more than 20 years ago. Typical topics included that how we can build a solid runway over coral reef to let bomber land.
If you think that it is only about a few ships, then you will find too much you need to know after you really get the ships.
Come on, Vietnam friends, it is not late if you now start the research, 20 years later even your tiny country can build island like China today only if you can have so much money.

actually, i agree with you. it is right. as Vietnam cannot really repeat what China is doing now in SCS, at least, at this scale and speed. then, a more realistic and practical way to let its strategy death more extended is buying more patrol ships.
any way, SCS has nothing with Vietnam,
do something, Vietnam dies, do nothing, Vietnam dies, too.
You're right, let's get back to the subject, i feel i have gone off topic, lol.

As per the ships, does Vietnam really need it? She needs to prioritize, perhaps acquiring more patrol vessels, replenishment ships is more important than say ships for island genesis. They don't really need it.

fake maps go to the place where it should go, the recycle bin.
so Paracels and Spratly have to turn back to rightful owner : Vietnam, who is first claimed it controlled it from hundred years ago in the past. There was no troubles with China.

So that Claim of China is rejected by San Francisco Conference in general discussion. enough said.

Paracels Islands in map of Vietnam from time of Nguyen Dynasty.
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China just gets its own thing back. for Vietnam, we will say, thanks for keeping it as we are out.
It doesn't mean that China or US can take Japan territory into his own.



the real intention of China is that, step by step China would like to swallow East Vietnam Sea. There is not too much oil or gas.

Why our vietnamese friends always like saying those things without any truth inside,
China not attended the conference you mention.
and so-called Vietnam PM, north or south? that died vietnam or this still alive vietnam ?
keep fooling others is not so funny.
Note that in San Francisco conference about pearce treaty with Japan after WW II, with present of Vietnam PM Tran Van Huu, claim of China about Island is rejected by voting in general discussion.



Both two party chef of VCP and CPC agreed that the dispute will be solve base on rule of international law. I hope this talk will be done in reality
 
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Why our vietnamese friends always like saying those things without any truth inside,
China not attended the conference you mention.
and so-called Vietnam PM, north or south? that died vietnam or this still alive vietnam ?
keep fooling others is not so funny.

You can not deny that claim of China is rejected by San Francisco conference. So Senkaku belong to Japan and Paracel and Spratly belong to Vietnam. Historically, Japan and Vietnam controlled such Islands officially from centre Govts of Japan Imperial and Vietnam Empire.

China can stop fabricating about such letter of North VN PM 1958.

Geneva Accords 1954 is signed by North Vietnam and China, both agreed that Islands belong to South Vietnam. So North VN state doesn't have right about sovereignty of South Vietnam State. In fact in the letter, didn't mentioned about Islands, it stated about 12 nm which related to North VN authority in this time only.
 
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a conference can do nothing about anyone who did not attend it.
Kidding alwasy from your vietnam guys, Geneva Accord is about who should have the coastal islands such as Phu Quoc Island (sorry, it is supposed to belong to Cambodia), not about those islands far in the deep sea.
why you just say taiwan island belong to north vietnam according to Geneva acord? because Taiwan island is at north of line 17 degree.
You can not deny that claim of China is rejected by San Francisco conference. So Senkaku belong to Japan and Paracel and Spratly belong to Vietnam. Historically, Japan and Vietnam controlled such Islands officially from centre Govts of Japan Imperial and Vietnam Empire.

China can stop fabricating about such letter of North VN PM 1958.

Geneva Accords 1954 is signed by North Vietnam and China, both agreed that Islands belong to South Vietnam. So North VN state doesn't have right about sovereignty of South Vietnam State. In fact in the letter, didn't mentioned about Islands, it stated about 12 nm which related to North VN authority in this time only.
 
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WTH?? Some people here are saying Vietnam should buy frigates/destroyers?? WTF?:o: @Nihonjin1051 You as well? im dissapointed to hear you say such a thing to be honest. This is wayyy above what Vietnam can afford. This is the last thing they should be thinking about anyway. The submarines they have recently piurchased from Russia is more than okay to deal with other claimansts in the SCS like Taiwan, Philippines and other SEA countries, im not mentioning China because there is no way Vietnam is ever going to dstand a chance against them in any Naval conflict, even if Vietnam was to spend its whole GDP on defence. Its like wishing Bengladesh can defeat India in a naval confrontation(no disrespect to my Bengladeshi friends here.lol).

Vietnam should focus on improving the livelihood of its people. It already spends alot on defence as it is, asking for more might be detrimental for its own economic growth/living standards(even more so as it imports almost all of its critical weapons). I ddont understand why poor/backward countries are the ones to spend the most in defence, while the more prosperous ones spend rather less(as percentage of GDP), it should be the total opposite. Get the basics right first then other things will naturally come later. Countries should all know/hset their priorities right IMO.......JEEZ........
 
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You need to understand the big pressure facing super power like China..


WTH?? Some people here are saying Vietnam should buy frigates/destroyers?? WTF?:o: @Nihonjin1051 You as well? im dissapointed to hear you say such a thing to be honest. This is wayyy above what Vietnam can afford. This is the last thing they should be thinking about anyway. The submarines they have recently piurchased from Russia is more than okay to deal with other claimansts in the SCS like Taiwan, Philippines and other SEA countries, im not mentioning China because there is no way Vietnam is ever going to dstand a chance against them in any Naval conflict, even if Vietnam was to spend its whole GDP on defence. Its like wishing Bengladesh can defeat India in a naval confrontation(no disrespect to my Bengladeshi friends here.lol).

Vietnam should focus on improving the livelihood of its people. It already spends alot on defence as it is, asking for more might be detrimental for its own economic growth/living standards(even more so as it imports almost all of its critical weapons). I ddont understand why poor/backward countries are the ones to spend the most in defence, while the more prosperous ones spend rather less(as percentage of GDP), it should be the total opposite. Get the basics right first then other things will naturally come later. Countries should all know/hset their priorities right IMO.......JEEZ........
 
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You need to understand the big pressure facing super power like China..
Nope, PLA is just a coward-poorly trained-corrupted army, our anti-ship missile is enough to sink all of your cheap copied warships. Conflict wt China in SCS(east sea) is just an excuse for VN to increase our defence budget to keep going on the plan to unify sub-Mekong region

We also send money to VN gen. Meas Sopheas in Kam to maintain a stro ng tanks forces :pop:
A repair shop for tanks and armoured vehicles, constructed with funding from Vietnam’s Ministry of Defence, was inaugurated and commissioned in Battambong province, Cambodia on February 27. Speaking at the launching ceremony, Commander of the Cambodian Royal Army General Meas Sopheas hailed the effective assistance of the Vietnamese ministry for its Cambodian counterpart across sectors, enabling Cambodia’s army to meet the defence and security demands of the country. The inauguration of the workshop is expected to support the Cambodian army in maintaining, repairing and upgrading equipment and military weapons, ultimately contributing to improving its capacity, said Meas Sopheas. The shop’s construction required 80,000 USD, sourced from a 2.4-million USD aid package for basic construction funded by the Vietnamese Ministry of Defence as part of the cooperation protocol between the two ministries in 2014.Colonel Nguyen Anh Dung, Vietnamese defence …
Cambodian Royal Army General Meas Sopheas — Vietmaz — (Tag)
 
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Hope your government can have the same idea...


Nope, PLA is just a coward-poorly trained-corrupted army, our anti-ship missile is enough to sink all of your cheap copied warships. Conflict wt China in SCS(east sea) is just an excuse for VN to increase our defence budget to keep going on the plan to unify sub-Mekong region

We also send money to VN gen. Meas Sopheas in Kam to maintain a stro ng tanks forces :pop:
 
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a conference can do nothing about anyone who did not attend it.
Kidding alwasy from your vietnam guys, Geneva Accord is about who should have the coastal islands such as Phu Quoc Island (sorry, it is supposed to belong to Cambodia), not about those islands far in the deep sea.
why you just say taiwan island belong to north vietnam according to Geneva acord? because Taiwan island is at north of line 17 degree.

Phú Quốc belong to Vietnam from time of Nguyễn Warlord. There is no disputed.

Taiwan invaded illegally in Itu Aba ( Ba Bình Island) in 1956 when Govt changed Bao Dai Emperor resigned and Ngo Dinh Diem taken a power and busy in South Vietnam.
 
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