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Do Pakistanis hold a favourable view of the Lashkar-e-Taiba?

If the state is to take on the LeT, it will need to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well.

Pakistan is facing renewed international pressure to take action against the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). Prior to this, for the first year of its administration, the Trump government focused single-mindedly on the Haqqani network.

But it seems that Pakistan’s inaction on the LeT was an aggravating factor that led to US pressure on the Financial Action Task Force and its decision to grey-list Pakistan for financing terrorism.

Though President Mamnoon Husain signed an ordinance freezing the assets of both LeT and the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), as well as other UN-banned organisations in mid-February, the international community did not deem it strong enough action against the LeT.

This also falls in line with Pakistan’s apparent pattern of making a move against the LeT when faced with pressure – but its actions tend to be purposefully marginal, and have always been reversible. The world notices.

What Pakistanis think of the LeT
In the middle of this all, it is worth understanding what ordinary Pakistanis think of the group. The data I analyse here is from the Pew Global Attitudes surveys conducted annually in Pakistan since 2002.

Pew conducted face-to-face interviews with adults 18-years and older. In most years, approximately 1,200 individuals were surveyed.

The interviews were in Urdu and regional languages, and the polls are nationally representative of 80 per cent to 90 per cent of the population; it excluded regions that were insecure (FATA, Gilgit-Baltistan, and areas where security was a severe concern in KP and Balochistan).

Their sampling was disproportionately urban, but I weighted the results to account for Pakistan’s true urban/rural composition.

This analysis, and my results, are explained in further detail in my new book, Pakistan Under Siege: Extremism, Society, and the State.

Pew polls show that Pakistanis are always more unfavourable than favourable towards terrorist groups, including those that strike Pakistan (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) as well as those that strike other nations (LeT and al-Qaeda).

But their views towards LeT tend to be slightly more favourable than their views towards the TTP. For instance, according to the Pew Global Attitudes poll in Pakistan in 2015, 14 per cent of respondents reported favourable views of the LeT, relative to 9 per cent who reported favourable views towards the TTP.

Pakistanis are also more uncertain about, and less unfavourable towards, the LeT than towards the TTP. 36 per cent reported unfavourable views of the LeT, while 49 per cent did not respond when asked about it.

On the other hand, views towards the TTP are far more negative – and it makes sense given that the group has killed thousands of Pakistanis, so many women and children among them: 60 per cent were unfavourable towards the TTP, while 30 per cent did not respond.

But the lack of certainty on the LeT and lower levels of unfavourability about the group are significant. The public’s narrative on the group is muddled.

That is no surprise, given the view of it as a strategic asset by at least some in the state apparatus – and the conspicuous and deliberate silence maintained on the group more broadly by the state.

The group has been allowed by the state to function as a socio-political entity, and allowed to rebrand under different fronts. Its propaganda is vast and accessible, and its charitable arm is successful and effective.

What’s more, the Kashmir cause and LeT’s negativity on India resonate with the population – but it is important to note that the LeT propaganda is not anti-India alone. It is anti-West and anti-Israel as well.

Though civilian politicians are starting to speak out on the issue — as Khwaja Asif did in the US last fall — it has not brought much in the way of clarity to the ordinary Pakistani.

Charity and propaganda
The LeT's charitable wing and front, the JuD, runs schools and ambulances and organises emergency relief. According to a paper published by the New America Foundation, by 2009, the JuD had the second-largest ambulance fleet in Pakistan.

After the devastating October 2005 earthquake and also after the 2010 floods, the JuD was at the forefront in providing relief, reaching those the state did not.

A Washington Post report from the time refers to a man who received medical help from the JuD after the 2005 earthquake, saying he “did not know whether the group was involved in violence, nor did he care.”

What mattered to him was that “every 10 minutes a doctor or medical attendant comes in to check on me. I have a very high opinion about this organisation.”

LeT’s propaganda is widely available. And the assortment of propaganda magazines produced by the group — with separate publications for the youth, women, and a general audience — cover not only its anti-India and anti-West rhetoric, but also advises its readers on how to live a pious life and how to raise children.

Its ties with mainstream Islamists also helps normalise the group. Its leader Hafiz Saeed was a former member of the Jamaat-i-Islami.

Together with Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam’s Sami-ul-Haq and Jamaat-i-Islami’s Siraj-ul-Haq, he heads the Difa-e-Pakistan Council which was formed after the NATO attack of 2011, which killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at the Salala checkpoint and caused widespread anger in the country. That association lends him, and the LeT and the JuD, legitimacy.

How does education and income impact attitudes towards LeT?
All this helps explain how Pakistanis’ attitudes on the LeT change with education and income. I found that education, even university education, does not reduce favourability for the group. Let’s unpack that.

On net, for the LeT (as with other terror groups), I did find that net unfavourability — the percentage with unfavourable views minus the percentage with favourable views — rises unambiguously with education, as does the certainty of responses — so on net, education “improves” views.

But looking at favourability alone, I found that high school respondents are slightly more favourable towards the Afghan Taliban (AT), the TTP, and the LeT than are students with less education – something that I argue can be attributed to Pakistan’s problematic high school curricula.

For the AT and the TTP, favourability fell again for education beyond high school, suggesting that for attitudes towards these groups, university education counters the effect of biased high school curricula.

But favourable views for the LeT don’t reverse with university education. Hafiz Saeed’s own respectable educational credentials — that he was a professor at the University of Engineering and Technology — likely affect views


Similarly, the pattern with income is different for attitudes towards the LeT than it is with other terror groups. I found that Pew respondents with higher incomes have more certain and more unfavourable views towards all terrorist groups — except for the LeT. Higher earners were no more likely to have unfavourable views towards LeT than those earning less.

With age, the trend is disturbing for all terror groups, including the LeT. My analysis shows that younger people have more favourable opinions of the LeT, and are more sure of their opinions, than older people. I saw the same patterns for the TTP.

Pakistan’s younger population appears more likely to sympathise with all extremist groups, reflecting an increasing tolerance of extremism on multiple dimensions in the younger generation.

By province, views towards the LeT behave as they do for other terrorist groups. I found that respondents from Punjab are the most favourable, and the least unfavourable, towards the LeT, the TTP, al Qaeda, and the Afghan Taliban, while respondents from Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have the least favourable views towards these groups.

Taken together, the evidence suggests that the Pakistani state’s ambivalence on the LeT and the group’s success at disseminating its message has seeped through to the population – attitudes towards the LeT are less negative, and respond differently to education and income than they do for other terror groups.

These patterns matter: LeT’s ideology overlaps with that of other terrorist groups that strike Pakistan itself. If the Pakistani state is to properly take on the LeT, it will need to make a concerted effort to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well
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In my university I have many friends who belong to religious families and have association with Jamat ud dawa. They are not any militants or anything, but are wahabis and visits their mosques and Madrassas. They give very insightful view as their parents are active member of Jamat ud dawa. Trust me the charities consists of educated religious people, who are so devouted their cause, they have stopped being political. They are worried about no water in sindh, or other relief activities. No body much give them charity except their own families and tgeir relief works cannot be disputed. Though being very hardliner religious people, they do relief work without any distinction.
Most of them are punjabi. And have no real sense of internal issues we face, as most of them don't have tv's.
There is an incident few years back in Musharraf time or gillani, that few lashkar militants joined ttp , that was shocking for the establishment. And that moment they are no more tolerated.
I think they talk a lot about Kashmir cause and their innocent social relief wing of Jamat ud dawa has kept the cause alive in our hearts, otherwise a nation as bagairat as ours, would forget kashmir.
They are talk about Kashmir which we Pakistanis don't do.
Most of the community are well educated.
 
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Do Pakistanis hold a favourable view of the Lashkar-e-Taiba?

If the state is to take on the LeT, it will need to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well.

Pakistan is facing renewed international pressure to take action against the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). Prior to this, for the first year of its administration, the Trump government focused single-mindedly on the Haqqani network.

But it seems that Pakistan’s inaction on the LeT was an aggravating factor that led to US pressure on the Financial Action Task Force and its decision to grey-list Pakistan for financing terrorism.

Though President Mamnoon Husain signed an ordinance freezing the assets of both LeT and the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), as well as other UN-banned organisations in mid-February, the international community did not deem it strong enough action against the LeT.

This also falls in line with Pakistan’s apparent pattern of making a move against the LeT when faced with pressure – but its actions tend to be purposefully marginal, and have always been reversible. The world notices.

What Pakistanis think of the LeT
In the middle of this all, it is worth understanding what ordinary Pakistanis think of the group. The data I analyse here is from the Pew Global Attitudes surveys conducted annually in Pakistan since 2002.

Pew conducted face-to-face interviews with adults 18-years and older. In most years, approximately 1,200 individuals were surveyed.

The interviews were in Urdu and regional languages, and the polls are nationally representative of 80 per cent to 90 per cent of the population; it excluded regions that were insecure (FATA, Gilgit-Baltistan, and areas where security was a severe concern in KP and Balochistan).

Their sampling was disproportionately urban, but I weighted the results to account for Pakistan’s true urban/rural composition.

This analysis, and my results, are explained in further detail in my new book, Pakistan Under Siege: Extremism, Society, and the State.

Pew polls show that Pakistanis are always more unfavourable than favourable towards terrorist groups, including those that strike Pakistan (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) as well as those that strike other nations (LeT and al-Qaeda).

But their views towards LeT tend to be slightly more favourable than their views towards the TTP. For instance, according to the Pew Global Attitudes poll in Pakistan in 2015, 14 per cent of respondents reported favourable views of the LeT, relative to 9 per cent who reported favourable views towards the TTP.

Pakistanis are also more uncertain about, and less unfavourable towards, the LeT than towards the TTP. 36 per cent reported unfavourable views of the LeT, while 49 per cent did not respond when asked about it.

On the other hand, views towards the TTP are far more negative – and it makes sense given that the group has killed thousands of Pakistanis, so many women and children among them: 60 per cent were unfavourable towards the TTP, while 30 per cent did not respond.

But the lack of certainty on the LeT and lower levels of unfavourability about the group are significant. The public’s narrative on the group is muddled.

That is no surprise, given the view of it as a strategic asset by at least some in the state apparatus – and the conspicuous and deliberate silence maintained on the group more broadly by the state.

The group has been allowed by the state to function as a socio-political entity, and allowed to rebrand under different fronts. Its propaganda is vast and accessible, and its charitable arm is successful and effective.

What’s more, the Kashmir cause and LeT’s negativity on India resonate with the population – but it is important to note that the LeT propaganda is not anti-India alone. It is anti-West and anti-Israel as well.

Though civilian politicians are starting to speak out on the issue — as Khwaja Asif did in the US last fall — it has not brought much in the way of clarity to the ordinary Pakistani.

Charity and propaganda
The LeT's charitable wing and front, the JuD, runs schools and ambulances and organises emergency relief. According to a paper published by the New America Foundation, by 2009, the JuD had the second-largest ambulance fleet in Pakistan.

After the devastating October 2005 earthquake and also after the 2010 floods, the JuD was at the forefront in providing relief, reaching those the state did not.

A Washington Post report from the time refers to a man who received medical help from the JuD after the 2005 earthquake, saying he “did not know whether the group was involved in violence, nor did he care.”

What mattered to him was that “every 10 minutes a doctor or medical attendant comes in to check on me. I have a very high opinion about this organisation.”

LeT’s propaganda is widely available. And the assortment of propaganda magazines produced by the group — with separate publications for the youth, women, and a general audience — cover not only its anti-India and anti-West rhetoric, but also advises its readers on how to live a pious life and how to raise children.

Its ties with mainstream Islamists also helps normalise the group. Its leader Hafiz Saeed was a former member of the Jamaat-i-Islami.

Together with Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam’s Sami-ul-Haq and Jamaat-i-Islami’s Siraj-ul-Haq, he heads the Difa-e-Pakistan Council which was formed after the NATO attack of 2011, which killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at the Salala checkpoint and caused widespread anger in the country. That association lends him, and the LeT and the JuD, legitimacy.

How does education and income impact attitudes towards LeT?
All this helps explain how Pakistanis’ attitudes on the LeT change with education and income. I found that education, even university education, does not reduce favourability for the group. Let’s unpack that.

On net, for the LeT (as with other terror groups), I did find that net unfavourability — the percentage with unfavourable views minus the percentage with favourable views — rises unambiguously with education, as does the certainty of responses — so on net, education “improves” views.

But looking at favourability alone, I found that high school respondents are slightly more favourable towards the Afghan Taliban (AT), the TTP, and the LeT than are students with less education – something that I argue can be attributed to Pakistan’s problematic high school curricula.

For the AT and the TTP, favourability fell again for education beyond high school, suggesting that for attitudes towards these groups, university education counters the effect of biased high school curricula.

But favourable views for the LeT don’t reverse with university education. Hafiz Saeed’s own respectable educational credentials — that he was a professor at the University of Engineering and Technology — likely affect views


Similarly, the pattern with income is different for attitudes towards the LeT than it is with other terror groups. I found that Pew respondents with higher incomes have more certain and more unfavourable views towards all terrorist groups — except for the LeT. Higher earners were no more likely to have unfavourable views towards LeT than those earning less.

With age, the trend is disturbing for all terror groups, including the LeT. My analysis shows that younger people have more favourable opinions of the LeT, and are more sure of their opinions, than older people. I saw the same patterns for the TTP.

Pakistan’s younger population appears more likely to sympathise with all extremist groups, reflecting an increasing tolerance of extremism on multiple dimensions in the younger generation.

By province, views towards the LeT behave as they do for other terrorist groups. I found that respondents from Punjab are the most favourable, and the least unfavourable, towards the LeT, the TTP, al Qaeda, and the Afghan Taliban, while respondents from Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have the least favourable views towards these groups.

Taken together, the evidence suggests that the Pakistani state’s ambivalence on the LeT and the group’s success at disseminating its message has seeped through to the population – attitudes towards the LeT are less negative, and respond differently to education and income than they do for other terror groups.

These patterns matter: LeT’s ideology overlaps with that of other terrorist groups that strike Pakistan itself. If the Pakistani state is to properly take on the LeT, it will need to make a concerted effort to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well
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Norsk mythology cannot explain the Kashmir conflict.

The kashmiri struggle is humans struggle. Man's quest for freedom and liberation.

Its not for you to concern with as Jah witnesses.
 
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Bitten continuously by mulla tolla it’s hard to believe now, second thing Jehad ( the holy war ) isn’t duty of privates to start it or get donations on name of it, it’s duty and responsibility of state to engage in it in all aspects.
Chairty Work most welcome but again intention behind it who knows. State strictly keep check on any type of chairty organisations where the money coming from and where it’s spends.
 
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In my view there's no difference between Modi & LET
LET kills indian including innocent Indian civilians in terror attack whose prime example was kasab and co killing 200 people in mumbai 26/11 .

How many pakistanis Modi killed ??
 
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LET kills indian including innocent Indian civilians in terror attack whose prime example was kasab and co killing 200 people in mumbai 26/11 .

How many pakistanis Modi killed ??
FO
LET isn’t a Govt’s agency or person or a political group, we hunting them down NOW what about Modi? He was CM of Gujrat and hater of Muslims which resulted of hundreds death in Gujrat. A state back up terrorism?
 
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LET kills indian including innocent Indian civilians in terror attack whose prime example was kasab and co killing 200 people in mumbai 26/11 .

How many pakistanis Modi killed ??

Proves needed for LET involvement , Zee News is only authentic for you guys .

And about Modi Border par firing to mere kehany par kartay ho na .

Bitten continuously by mulla tolla it’s hard to believe now, second thing Jehad ( the holy war ) isn’t duty of privates to start it or get donations on name of it, it’s duty and responsibility of state to engage in it in all aspects.
Chairty Work most welcome but again intention behind it who knows. State strictly keep check on any type of chairty organisations where the money coming from and where it’s spends.

Can you enlighten me what to do if the state is doing nothing ?
 
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Bitten continuously by mulla tolla it’s hard to believe now, second thing Jehad ( the holy war ) isn’t duty of privates to start it or get donations on name of it, it’s duty and responsibility of state to engage in it in all aspects.
Chairty Work most welcome but again intention behind it who knows. State strictly keep check on any type of chairty organisations where the money coming from and where it’s spends.
My view on them is net positive their non political work has saved lives of hundred of thousands
 
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Proves needed for LET involvement , Zee News is only authentic for you guys .

And about Modi Border par firing to mere kehany par kartay ho na .



Can you enlighten me what to do if the state is doing nothing ?
Follow the state there is nothing computer science or deep Sharia involve in it.

My view on them is net positive their non political work has saved lives of hundred of thousands
I respect your views, Be Agree or disagree on issues and debate it with manners that’s what a healthy society need to do.
 
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Do Pakistanis hold a favourable view of the Lashkar-e-Taiba?

If the state is to take on the LeT, it will need to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well.

Pakistan is facing renewed international pressure to take action against the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). Prior to this, for the first year of its administration, the Trump government focused single-mindedly on the Haqqani network.

But it seems that Pakistan’s inaction on the LeT was an aggravating factor that led to US pressure on the Financial Action Task Force and its decision to grey-list Pakistan for financing terrorism.

Though President Mamnoon Husain signed an ordinance freezing the assets of both LeT and the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), as well as other UN-banned organisations in mid-February, the international community did not deem it strong enough action against the LeT.

This also falls in line with Pakistan’s apparent pattern of making a move against the LeT when faced with pressure – but its actions tend to be purposefully marginal, and have always been reversible. The world notices.

What Pakistanis think of the LeT
In the middle of this all, it is worth understanding what ordinary Pakistanis think of the group. The data I analyse here is from the Pew Global Attitudes surveys conducted annually in Pakistan since 2002.

Pew conducted face-to-face interviews with adults 18-years and older. In most years, approximately 1,200 individuals were surveyed.

The interviews were in Urdu and regional languages, and the polls are nationally representative of 80 per cent to 90 per cent of the population; it excluded regions that were insecure (FATA, Gilgit-Baltistan, and areas where security was a severe concern in KP and Balochistan).

Their sampling was disproportionately urban, but I weighted the results to account for Pakistan’s true urban/rural composition.

This analysis, and my results, are explained in further detail in my new book, Pakistan Under Siege: Extremism, Society, and the State.

Pew polls show that Pakistanis are always more unfavourable than favourable towards terrorist groups, including those that strike Pakistan (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan) as well as those that strike other nations (LeT and al-Qaeda).

But their views towards LeT tend to be slightly more favourable than their views towards the TTP. For instance, according to the Pew Global Attitudes poll in Pakistan in 2015, 14 per cent of respondents reported favourable views of the LeT, relative to 9 per cent who reported favourable views towards the TTP.

Pakistanis are also more uncertain about, and less unfavourable towards, the LeT than towards the TTP. 36 per cent reported unfavourable views of the LeT, while 49 per cent did not respond when asked about it.

On the other hand, views towards the TTP are far more negative – and it makes sense given that the group has killed thousands of Pakistanis, so many women and children among them: 60 per cent were unfavourable towards the TTP, while 30 per cent did not respond.

But the lack of certainty on the LeT and lower levels of unfavourability about the group are significant. The public’s narrative on the group is muddled.

That is no surprise, given the view of it as a strategic asset by at least some in the state apparatus – and the conspicuous and deliberate silence maintained on the group more broadly by the state.

The group has been allowed by the state to function as a socio-political entity, and allowed to rebrand under different fronts. Its propaganda is vast and accessible, and its charitable arm is successful and effective.

What’s more, the Kashmir cause and LeT’s negativity on India resonate with the population – but it is important to note that the LeT propaganda is not anti-India alone. It is anti-West and anti-Israel as well.

Though civilian politicians are starting to speak out on the issue — as Khwaja Asif did in the US last fall — it has not brought much in the way of clarity to the ordinary Pakistani.

Charity and propaganda
The LeT's charitable wing and front, the JuD, runs schools and ambulances and organises emergency relief. According to a paper published by the New America Foundation, by 2009, the JuD had the second-largest ambulance fleet in Pakistan.

After the devastating October 2005 earthquake and also after the 2010 floods, the JuD was at the forefront in providing relief, reaching those the state did not.

A Washington Post report from the time refers to a man who received medical help from the JuD after the 2005 earthquake, saying he “did not know whether the group was involved in violence, nor did he care.”

What mattered to him was that “every 10 minutes a doctor or medical attendant comes in to check on me. I have a very high opinion about this organisation.”

LeT’s propaganda is widely available. And the assortment of propaganda magazines produced by the group — with separate publications for the youth, women, and a general audience — cover not only its anti-India and anti-West rhetoric, but also advises its readers on how to live a pious life and how to raise children.

Its ties with mainstream Islamists also helps normalise the group. Its leader Hafiz Saeed was a former member of the Jamaat-i-Islami.

Together with Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam’s Sami-ul-Haq and Jamaat-i-Islami’s Siraj-ul-Haq, he heads the Difa-e-Pakistan Council which was formed after the NATO attack of 2011, which killed 24 Pakistani soldiers at the Salala checkpoint and caused widespread anger in the country. That association lends him, and the LeT and the JuD, legitimacy.

How does education and income impact attitudes towards LeT?
All this helps explain how Pakistanis’ attitudes on the LeT change with education and income. I found that education, even university education, does not reduce favourability for the group. Let’s unpack that.

On net, for the LeT (as with other terror groups), I did find that net unfavourability — the percentage with unfavourable views minus the percentage with favourable views — rises unambiguously with education, as does the certainty of responses — so on net, education “improves” views.

But looking at favourability alone, I found that high school respondents are slightly more favourable towards the Afghan Taliban (AT), the TTP, and the LeT than are students with less education – something that I argue can be attributed to Pakistan’s problematic high school curricula.

For the AT and the TTP, favourability fell again for education beyond high school, suggesting that for attitudes towards these groups, university education counters the effect of biased high school curricula.

But favourable views for the LeT don’t reverse with university education. Hafiz Saeed’s own respectable educational credentials — that he was a professor at the University of Engineering and Technology — likely affect views


Similarly, the pattern with income is different for attitudes towards the LeT than it is with other terror groups. I found that Pew respondents with higher incomes have more certain and more unfavourable views towards all terrorist groups — except for the LeT. Higher earners were no more likely to have unfavourable views towards LeT than those earning less.

With age, the trend is disturbing for all terror groups, including the LeT. My analysis shows that younger people have more favourable opinions of the LeT, and are more sure of their opinions, than older people. I saw the same patterns for the TTP.

Pakistan’s younger population appears more likely to sympathise with all extremist groups, reflecting an increasing tolerance of extremism on multiple dimensions in the younger generation.

By province, views towards the LeT behave as they do for other terrorist groups. I found that respondents from Punjab are the most favourable, and the least unfavourable, towards the LeT, the TTP, al Qaeda, and the Afghan Taliban, while respondents from Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have the least favourable views towards these groups.

Taken together, the evidence suggests that the Pakistani state’s ambivalence on the LeT and the group’s success at disseminating its message has seeped through to the population – attitudes towards the LeT are less negative, and respond differently to education and income than they do for other terror groups.

These patterns matter: LeT’s ideology overlaps with that of other terrorist groups that strike Pakistan itself. If the Pakistani state is to properly take on the LeT, it will need to make a concerted effort to change its citizens’ perceptions of it as well
https://www.dawn.com/news/1396877

destroying many masjids churches killing people just in suspecion of having beef burning nuns and fathers having an open views of converting everyone into HINDUISM and on top of having Terrorist Narinder Mody as Prime Minister india become RSS and bajrandal.
we support anyone who is standing and defending Pakistan Hafiz saeed is not Terrorist but indian Prime Minister is.
 
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