Divide and Conquer? Chinese Navy Starts Playing Nice With U.S.

[senheiser]

Apparently you don't understand the term "soft power". Soft power is the power of attraction. We attract students from all over the world, because we offer great educational opportunities. Also, international students make up less than 4% of all college students in the US, so stop pulling facts out of thin air.

yeah but its the 4% who invent stuff and the rest are all first generation immigrants. America attracts smart people but also a lot of retards. Right now the retarded are out breeding the smarter ones .

 

[F-22Raptor]

yeah but its the 4% who invent stuff and the rest are all first generation immigrants. America attracts smart people but also a lot of retards. Right now the retarded are out breeding the smarter ones .

Oh please, only those 4% invent stuff and the other 95% don't? I shattered your argument, and that's all you can muster? What a joke....

 

[vtnsx]

lol playing nice with the US? Of course you have to play nice with the US, on you knees China. That's not even news.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I've never understood this argument. America is a nation of immigrants, a nation of all cultures, and the melting pot of the world. It's been this way for two centuries. It's what makes our nation so great.

Resorting to stereotypical characterizations just proves to me how weak and petty your assertions are... First, if American technology was "immigrant" technology it would have indeed been made in that individuals home country. Second, the US provides the atmosphere and support that fosters creativity and innovation, something that which is constricted in a country such as China. Finally, a Nobel Prize is awarded to those that have reached the pinnacle of scientific achievement. In Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, and Economics 315 Americans have been awarded this prize, while only 4 have been awarded to Chinese citizens. With that said, I can only laugh at your drivel....

I dont know how Chinese, Russian, Iranian and other Immigrants in US will see US as great nation when American gorverment is making these respective people's country as enemies wished list. My point is America gorverment is relying on talented Immigrants to build this nation and make Immigrants as enemies at the same time, you just shot yourself on the foot.
ask @Nihonjin1051 if he will still fall in love with US if Japan was bombed the same way as Irak in 1990s?...and America surely know as great nation with how they treated immigrants in case war...just remember the confinement of those Japanese immgrants is US during WW2.

And why I insiste about Immigrant technology in US? because Americans like to bragg of US make product is superior than junk from made in China, have better Universities in the world, make better military machine without knowing those who work behind scene. No matter if US provide the atmosphere and support that fosters creativity and innovation or how many Nobel prices given, the hard work is still done by Immigrants and you can't steal the credit from them as American's achievement.

 

[BoQ77]

funny to see a civilian ship of China voiced warning to US DDG by bilingual ..
Actually, that's China govt funded ship, not civilian ship ... but faking

So dirty trick.

One of this ship type sank a Vietnam fish boat in daytime, and they also ignore the sank fishermen could die.

Same type harrashed USNS Impeccable in international water area

 

[F-22Raptor]

I dont know how Chinese, Russian, Iranian and other Immigrants in US will see US as great nation when American gorverment is making these respective people's country as enemies wished list. My point is America gorverment is relying on talented Immigrants to build this nation and make Immigrants as enemies at the same time, you just shot yourself on the foot.
ask @Nihonjin1051 if he will still fall in love with US if Japan was bombed the same way as Irak in 1990s?...and America surely know as great nation with how they treated immigrants in case war...just remember the confinement of those Japanese immgrants is US during WW2.

And why I insiste about Immigrant technology in US? because Americans like to bragg of US make product is superior than junk from made in China, have better Universities in the world, make better military machine without knowing those who work behind scene. No matter if US provide the atmosphere and support that fosters creativity and innovation or how many Nobel prices given, the hard work is still done by Immigrants and you can't steal the credit from them as American's achievement.

The US has no problem attracting immigrants. There are 235,000 Chinese students studying in our universities now. We naturalize roughly 700,000-800,000 immigrants every year, with far more people wanting to come to these shores. The US has never had trouble attracting talented people from around the world.

America is a nation of immigrants. Let me say it one more time, AMERICA is a NATION of IMMIGRANTS. Americans can be of any race, religion, or ethnic background. No one is stealing their "credit". Just because an immigrant might provide their expertise to a product like Iphone or an aircraft like F-22, it doesn't mean they are not regarded as American achievements. There are many people involved in such endeavors, so to say they are not American achievements is absurd and laughable. Now run along...

 

[xunzi]

I've never understood this argument. America is a nation of immigrants, a nation of all cultures, and the melting pot of the world. It's been this way for two centuries. It's what makes our nation so great.

Resorting to stereotypical characterizations just proves to me how weak and petty your assertions are... First, if American technology was "immigrant" technology it would have indeed been made in that individuals home country. Second, the US provides the atmosphere and support that fosters creativity and innovation, something that which is constricted in a country such as China. Finally, a Nobel Prize is awarded to those that have reached the pinnacle of scientific achievement. In Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, and Economics 315 Americans have been awarded this prize, while only 4 have been awarded to Chinese citizens. With that said, I can only laugh at your drivel....

You are comparing apple and orange. You think American as a nationality while most people think of Chinese as an ethnic term. US institution, program, and system attracting talents around the world allow it to advance far faster than others. This is undeniable but Senheiser was also right. You don't get to claim origin because the people you got are hiring people. In China and Russia, 99.9% of scientists and engineering people that help progressing China/Russia are ethnic Chinese/Russian. That is the different! We have a close-knit relationship to the country than the people in your country.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The US has no problem attracting immigrants. There are 235,000 Chinese students studying in our universities now. We naturalize roughly 700,000-800,000 immigrants every year, with far more people wanting to come to these shores. The US has never had trouble attracting talented people from around the world.

America is a nation of immigrants. Let me say it one more time, AMERICA is a NATION of IMMIGRANTS. Americans can be of any race, religion, or ethnic background. No one is stealing their "credit". Just because an immigrant might provide their expertise to a product like Iphone or an aircraft like F-22, it doesn't mean they are not regarded as American achievements. There are many people involved in such endeavors, so to say they are not American achievements is absurd and laughable. Now run along...

High pay, better living standard...sure you can attract people around the world when US is still rich and prosper, the day that US economy go bad...immigrants will first be blamed for the cause of unemployment and other social unrest.

And if AMERICA is a NATION of IMMIGRANTS as you admitted than it's logical that what ever built & developped by immigrants is IMMIGRANT's achievement, noone will ever call that as American's achievement: Such Albert Eistein, nobody credit his achievement as American's achievement but Jewish's Achievment or David Ho, an AIDS researcher born in Taiwan, was the lead researcher who introduced the administering of protease inhibitors in caring for HIV-infected individuals, you dont claim his achievement as American's achievement neither.

 

[F-22Raptor]

High pay, better living standard...sure you can attract people around the world when US is still rich and prosper, the day that US economy go bad...immigrants will first be blamed for the cause of unemployment and other social unrest.

And if AMERICA is a NATION of IMMIGRANTS as you admitted than it's logical that what ever built & developped by immigrants is IMMIGRANT's achievement, noone will ever call that as American's achievement: Such Albert Eistein, nobody credit his achievement as American's achievement but Jewish's Achievment or David Ho, an AIDS researcher born in Taiwan, was the lead researcher who introduced the administering of protease inhibitors in caring for HIV-infected individuals, you dont claim he's achievement as American's achievement neither.

The economy went bad 5 years ago, and yet the US was still the top place for countries to invest their money even in a recession. The US is not the only country in the world with high living standards, yet we're the number one destination for potential immigrants.

If immigrants conduct their work at our universities, our companies, our laboratories, our research facilities then yes I consider that an American achievement, due to the fact that America provides the environment, tech, and financial support that cultivates scientific and technological advancement. In other words, it is both the individuals and American achievement.

 

[BoQ77]

What do you feel if a guy show his ongoing work is build and aim his long range missiles to your people, USA ?
Fear ? Angry ?
I means DF-41
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Wonder what's the next usage of US nuclear bombs ?

 

[Genesis]

There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin, but I'll highlight a couple points. In Shanghais Academic Ranking of World Universities 2013, 52 of the top 100 Universities in the world were in the US, including 17 of the top 20. Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Cal-Berkeley, Cal Tech, Columbia, John Hopkins? Any of those ring a bell?

As for science, I mean really? Why should I even bother with someone who hasn't a clue?

You can say what you want, but there is a palpable sense of inferiority among Russians.

About those rankings, if nothing else, let me ask you this, what makes these colleges better, before you give me the lecture, Qinghua, and Beijing university both produce the future Chinese leaders in politics and in finance and business.

So just base on that, it should have a higher ranking. Yet it doesn't. So either Chinese leaders are 40 spots behind American ones, which means they are close to brain dead in terms of that echelon of people, or China is nothing in the world, or it should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The economy went bad 5 years ago, and yet the US was still the top place for countries to invest their money even in a recession. The US is not the only country in the world with high living standards, yet we're the number one destination for potential immigrants.

If immigrants conduct their work at our universities, our companies, our laboratories, our research facilities then yes I consider that an American achievement, due to the fact that America provides the environment, tech, and financial support that cultivates scientific and technological advancement. In other words, it is both the individuals and American achievement.

If immigrants conducts their work at your universities, your companies, your laboratories, your research facilities then the best you can only claim are their results, what ever they were payed to do for US such patent, invention or any copy right but you can't claim his individual achivement as American's, people will look for the identity and nationality of the person unless US is trying to cover up.

 

[F-22Raptor]

If immigrants conducts their work at your universities, your companies, your laboratories, your research facilities then the best you can only claim are their results, what ever they were payed to do for US such patent, invention or any copy right but you can't claim his individual achivement as American's, people will look for the identity and nationality of the person unless US is trying to cover up.

The US creates the tools for success for all people that come to this country, which is one of a multitude of reasons that has lead to the prosperity of this nation. Whether you agree or not, it is ultimately no concern of mine.

About those rankings, if nothing else, let me ask you this, what makes these colleges better, before you give me the lecture, Qinghua, and Beijing university both produce the future Chinese leaders in politics and in finance and business.

So just base on that, it should have a higher ranking. Yet it doesn't. So either Chinese leaders are 40 spots behind American ones, which means they are close to brain dead in terms of that echelon of people, or China is nothing in the world, or it should be taken with a grain of salt.

I suggest you take that up with my source and their respective analysis.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The US creates the tools for success for all people that come to this country, which is one of a multitude of reasons that has lead to the prosperity of this nation. Whether you agree or not, it is ultimately no concern of mine.

So what's is your conclusion, immigrant's achievement mean American's achievement?

 

[Genesis]

I suggest you take that up with my source and their respective analysis.

I suggest you explain it. Reason being, you are using it as fact, which means you think it is credible and factual.

If I were to use an article that says America will descend into the third world, I would have to defend it, not some hippie nobody that wrote. Not to say the Uni ranking is.

So what's is your conclusion, immigrant's achievement mean American's achievement?

actually that I would agree with F-22, reason is these immigrants may have been successful, may not in their own country, but no way in hell an Indian could develop F-22 and F-35 in their own country at this point in time.

Effectively, their success is directly related to and attributed to the American system.