Dirty Politics, and (stealth) backdoor coup?

[Rusty]

Why do you guys have to drop so low for the sake of your political views that u start misbehaving and use foul language against each other? Goes on to show where you come from and what your parents have taught u.

I feel sorry for these kind of people, who think they know it all but in reality they are the joke and I despise people who lose their sense of respect and as soon as a political discussion starts. All because of the lies being fed to them by their respected leaders? Whom they don’t even know personally, nor are they aware, of your existence even.

Sad how people are divided between these two devils, Nawaz and Imran and have no real views of their own. Sheeps. We all know a sheeps characteristics.

False equivalence

One man has been in politics for over 30 years, has been 3 times PM and looting the country.
The other man has never had power, is a National hero and opened world class hospitals for the poor

but yeah... totally the same evil.....

A very popular tactic of these media cell people is to say "yeah, Nawaz is bad BUT SO IS IMRAN KHAN"
They hope to make unsuspecting people think that Nawaz and Imran are the same.

 

[likewise2017]

Get a load of big boy fancy talk over here. Starts off with:

"Yeah PMLN is kinda bad...but so is everyone else!!111!"

and leads it all up to:

"PMLN did nothing wrong!!! Roshan Pakistan everywhere everyday!! Its a COUP!!!"

I suspect we will see many such users and posts pop up in the next while.

Well it seems...your beneficial contribution to this post is obviously non existent. Out of all that I wrote, this is the level of understanding you got from it??

Yep, and this is exactly what I’ve tried to mention in my post, maybe not in a perfect way, but enough for us average people to understand.

Can you refute any of it instead of beating round the bush, or at least explain in a sensible manner what and why you disagree??

 

[shahbaz baig]

Well it seems...your beneficial contribution to this post is obviously non existent. Out of all that I wrote, this is the level of understanding you got from it??

Yep, and this is exactly what I’ve tried to mention in my post, maybe not in a perfect way, but enough for us average people to understand.

Can you refute any of it instead of beating round the bush, or at least explain in a sensible manner what and why you disagree??

rod is the logic of fools..and there is no solution in pakistan..

You are new and i think you dont know what happend.. Do you really think that people will tell you what has been happening in pakistan for long time ?

Would you go to pakistan to cast your vote ? If yes then tell us rather then asking people from here.. You are naive.

1. what do you think how to eradicate corruption, ?
2. What should be the ideology of pakistan ?
3. What system are you looking for pakistan politics ?
4. How would you eradicate kleptocrats ?
5. How would you fully implement meritocracy ?
6. What procedures would you apply for any individual to test his pseudo intellectual IQ before giving him a party ticket ?
7. What steps are you going to take to fight against the current corrupt political culture of pakistan, so that you will be able to build your narrative infront of people of pakistan ?
8. How would you plan the economic, foreign affairs, military regional strength of pakistan ?
9. What do think what are the biggest problem of pakistan except terrorism & economy ?
10. How would you continue the CPEC ?

 

[likewise2017]

Unity doesnot mean accepting Takht e Lahore as supreme overlords
What change are you talking about? The debts or buy pita get steel mill free deals?
You media cell folks cant even get your lies straight you are done and dusted


Paid trolls of media cell sadly they get paid from our tax money

You haven’t responded to my statement in any meaningful way at all?? You’ve started off with a completely off topic and disgraceful response and not answered any of the points??

Then you go ahead and start insulting and accusing me, without proof?? And you think there I’m lying??

Instead of beating round the bush, try and respond in logical way. There are tens of thousands of media/journalists online across the world, some are low life and some that try to bring dialogue and balance between two or more parties.

Let me say this, in the online world, identification is not 100% possible or accurate. I don’t know your true ID and you don’t know my true ID. But trying to enforce your POV and trying to convince yourself that you’re right and that I am a paid troll, hence my view is not worth anything, let alone as valuable as yours, is fascism at best.

Just contribute positively for gods sake. Don’t beat round the damn bush and reveal your hypocrisy.

I’ve noticed this on PDF for many years, but I finally decided to make an account and add my POV to this forum, just like you and everyone else on this forum.

No respond to my actual queries instead of deflecting issues.

 

[Sugarcane]

Bhai aam admi ko justice k liya saalon zaleel hona parta hai main sb. ka tu vip trial ho raha hai phir bhi cheekh rahay ho.

 

[Zibago]

This country needs stability and unity, especially at this crucial time when the countries infrastructure is being rebuilt and the economy getting back to its feet after many many years of ‘war on terror’ which brought destruction as chaos to our country!

Unity and stability can work with or without pmln punjab is not all of Pakistan nor is safeguarding its dons important for survival of Pakistan

The excruciatingly bad mouthing of the opposition parties is a disgrace

Should of thought about it before calling women of political rivals prostitutes your ilk deserves all the insults they get

The world is watching and this paints a picture of disgust of Pakistan and it’s people, at home and abroad.

Not really they give examples of us Indians even envy our judicial activism

they’re all allegations,

Its dangerous to believe your own propaganda

If they were a ‘mafia’ or ‘Godfather’, the responses would have been harsher,

Only elections will decide who the people will vote for.

And courts will decide who is innocent and who is guilty

Zardari’s time!

Name ONE incident of politically motivated killing or action in his era?

Simply listening to the words that come out of his mouth against fellow Pakistanis

What a stupid argument if i call a killer a killer i am bad for speaking against a fellow Pakistani?

If he has some allegations or evidence, he should discuss it in a professional manner in Parliament,

He took the evidence to court and you guys are history next

This speaks a lot about his character and this kind of character can never do justice or lead a country fairly.

Oh yes those who called Benazir gashti(taxi) are more capable

it can’t be ignored that Pakistan has transformed in past few years

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1636130/2-pakistans-external-debt-liabilities-touch-89-billion/

1) disgusting and vile language to try ruin the PLMN’s image

It has no image its a party of thugs born from the womb of dictatorship and now is paying for all its sin it did in the 90,s against the people of Pakistan

2) Thuggish behaviours and threatening PLMN’s party members to step aside or face jail time etc

Oh boo hoo Noon leagis get treated like others now they are crying unfair grow a spine and tackle cases with evidence of legit dealings instead of hacky bs

3) The absolutely disgusting campaign by major Pakistan’s media platforms! This is INFORMATIONAL WARFARE against the state

Nope no media channel is against Pakistan its only against the corrupt to the core anti state central punjab based thug party

Only elections will decide, not Imran Khans fantasy of trying to become the leader by shoving others aside,

You give Imran way too much credit
He got himself stuck by being a liar over and over again

he will bring nothing but dictatorship,

So says someone who supports the illegitimate political child of Zia and IJI

I would be happy to see him their, BUT only if he showed courage and win the people’s hearts by showing his good side,

His support among the public is the last thing that should bother those close to jail

This is not the way Pakistan should be seen in front of the world!

This is exactly the Pakistan we want the world to see a Pakistan that can correct its flaws, a Pakistan that can take its leaders to the cleaners if they double-cross them, a Pakistan where the good of nation comes over pety interest of regional dons, a Pakistan that is progressive,democratic and decides its own foreign policy

#MeinInkoRulaonGa

Bhai aam admi ko justice k liya saalon zaleel hona parta hai main sb. ka tu vip trial ho raha hai phir bhi cheekh rahay ho.

AM admi hota to 500 rs ki chori par tashreef laal kar deti Punjab pulas

 

[volatile]

Do read about this case

Please check the date it is 2011 date also only taking few headlines out of context is misleading

"It means the court will start hearing Pakistan’s case, whose importance needs little emphasis, after a lapse of 18 months and in 2012."


The Kishanganga Hydroelectric Plant is an $864 million dam which is part of a run-of-the-river hydroelectric scheme that is designed to divert water from the Kishanganga River to a power plant in the Jhelum River basin. It is located 5 km (3 mi) north of Bandipore in Jammu and Kashmir, India and will have an installed capacity of 330 MW. Construction on the project began in 2007 and was expected to be complete in 2016. Construction on the dam was temporarily halted by the Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration (CoA) in October 2011 due to Pakistan's protest of its effect on the flow of the Kishanganga River (called the Neelum River in Pakistan)

Now who was incharge in 2007 care to explain and by the way a dam needs at least 4/5 years of technical as well as financial closing

 

[wali87]

False equivalence

One man has been in politics for over 30 years, has been 3 times PM and looting the country.
The other man has never had power, is a National hero and opened world class hospitals for the poor

but yeah... totally the same evil.....

A very popular tactic of these media cell people is to say "yeah, Nawaz is bad BUT SO IS IMRAN KHAN"
They hope to make unsuspecting people think that Nawaz and Imran are the same.

Either you have a short attention span or you lack the basics of how to read and comprehend. Anyhow, the point of my arguement was to try to diffuse this sick and pathetic things people start to say to each other once a political arguement starts.

I thought maybe I could contribute towards making this forum a cleaner place where logic prevails rather than dirty talk based on blind political views. However, that’s not happening.
Also, the way you are getting touchy in each post, it seems your either part of these media cells u speak of or you need another past time sir.

 

[!eon]

The entire political drama is to carve the way to turn the wahabi terror parties into largest political parites thru a next surprise and rigged elections. Now the rigging is shifted to one higher level instead of balltox box level, to the level of population census and electoral listings.

for this reason these foreign operated elements are laying the ground and teaching and trying convincing everyone that whatever happens in elections stay in your limits. let them do what they and do not interfere with these cheaters.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1402262/army-judiciary-urged-to-work-within-constitutional-framework

they manage all institutions but they are trying to fool the public.

Someone was saying that Mr. Khomaini was wahabi

I agree

 

[Shane]

@likewise2017 @wali87
Please don't challenge the intelligence of people here by playing SalimUllah say KalimUllah dears.

Let's talk about the Elephant in the room once again, very politely and to the point.

The point of contention? Panama Leaks...

• 180 degree Contradictory statements by family members. (no excuses yet)
• Property ownership voluntarily accepted.(3 Contradictory money trails By PM and Hussain Nawaz)
• Courts demanding money trail and registry of ownership since 2 years (forged trust deed and Heresy Qatri letter contradicting Hussain Nawaz)
• Not a single Authentic documentary proof provided in courts yet in over 2 years...not a single shred of evidence to show in public if not courts...But political narrative of what else but whataboutism...

WHATABOUTISM...
(also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.

Who chose to go to SCP in hopes of finding refuge in the likes of same old Justice Qayyum types instead of Parliament route and decide on TORs? Is not roti ko chochi is it? The rest is self leg chopping incarnate history...AlhamduliAllah

 

[Tameem]

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