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AFP: Multiple countries and organizations, including the US, the EU and the UK, have announced new sanctions against Russia for its actions toward Ukraine. Are there any circumstances whatsoever in which China would do the same?

Hua Chunying: Apparently you lack basic knowledge of the Chinese government’s policy. Our position is that sanctions are never fundamentally effective means to solve problems. We consistently oppose all illegal unilateral sanctions.

According to data released by the US Treasury, the US’ sanctions use has increased ten times over the past 20 years. The previous US administration imposed as many as 3,800 sanctions, which means wielding the stick of sanctions three times per day on average. Since 2011, the US has imposed more than 100 sanctions on Russia. However, have the US sanctions solved any problem? Is the world a better place because of those sanctions? Will the Ukraine issue resolve itself thanks to the US sanctions on Russia? Will European security be better guaranteed thanks to the US sanctions on Russia? We hope relevant sides will give this some serious thought and strive to resolve issues through dialogue and consultation.

I would also like to point out that the illegal unilateral sanctions by some countries including the US has caused severe difficulties to relevant countries’ economy and livelihood. When handling the Ukraine issue and relations with Russia, the US mustn’t harm the legitimate rights and interests of China and other parties.

China Daily: A few US media outlets believe that China’s remarks and position on Ukraine contradict the principle of respecting state sovereignty and territorial integrity that China always champions. Do you agree?

Hua Chunying: China’s position on the Ukraine issue is consistent and stays unchanged.

China’s remarks are in line with our position that regional hotspot issues should be resolved through dialogue and consultation. China always upholds objectivity and fairness, stands for peace and justice, and decides its position based on the merits of the matter concerned. We believe that all countries should settle international disputes in a peaceful way in accordance with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. Those who accuse China of violating the principle of respecting state sovereignty and territorial integrity on the Ukraine issue either harbor ulterior motives or are misguided by misrepresentation. 

Reason and causality are important when trying to understand things. There is a complex historical context on the Ukraine issue and the current situation is the result of the interplay of many complicated factors. In order to have an objective understanding of the situation and seek a reasonable and peaceful settlement, it is necessary to learn the whole story on the Ukraine issue and properly address each other’s legitimate security concerns on the basis of equality and mutual respect. Certain countries should ask themselves: When the US drove five waves of NATO expansion eastward all the way to Russia’s doorstep and deployed advanced offensive strategic weapons in breach of its assurances to Russia, did it ever think about the consequences of pushing a big country to the wall?

Under the current circumstances, the door to a peaceful settlement of the Ukraine issue is not completely shut. We hope relevant parties concerned can stay cool-headed and rational, and commit themselves to a peaceful resolution through negotiation in accordance with the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. China will continue to promote peace talks in its own way. We welcome and encourage all efforts dedicated to advancing diplomatic settlement of the issue. 
 
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Did US ever think about consequences of pushing a big country to the wall?​

No.
Michael Savage agrees and has been called Russia apologist. PPL in the US, cant handle facts and truth.
 
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Did US ever think about consequences of pushing a big country to the wall?​

No.
Michael Savage agrees and has been called Russia apologist. PPL in the US, cant handle facts and truth.
Poland and the Baltics are freaking out over this. Consequences is going to be long term for sure.
 
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Poland and the Baltics are freaking out over this. Consequences is going to be long term for sure.
Poland will most likely declare itself to be your overseas territory or demand that you make it your state if that's the case. They have had it real bad with the Soviets and will expect you to station all your forces there.
 
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Poland will most likely declare itself to be your overseas territory or demand that you make it your state if that's the case. They have had it real bad with the Soviets and will expect you to station all your forces there.
I wouldn't be surprised. They are that scared. Even willing to help supply weapons and other equipment to Ukraine with no hesitation.
 
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In my humble opinion, the bigger picture of the ultimate Russian & Chinese goals are:

1. prove that a country already occupied by u.s. nato forces can be freed with Chinese and Russian help...already proven in Afghanistan.

2. prove even a country can successfully defeat u.s. nato intervention with Russian and Chinese help...already proven in Syria.

3. u.s. nato economic sanctions won't harm you with China and Russia on your side...already proven in Afghanistan and Iran.

4. u.s. nato won't protect you with their own forces against Russia or China...getting proven in ukraine and taiwan as we speak.

5. u.s. nato won't protect you against Russia and China even if you are a nato member...yet to be proven but I suspect that after ukraine has been subdued, this goal will be proven by targeting estonia and latvia.

after goal #5 is achieved, you can consider nato as dead.
 
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In my humble opinion, the bigger picture of the ultimate Russian & Chinese goals are:

1. prove that a country already occupied by u.s. nato forces can be freed with Chinese and Russian help...already proven in Afghanistan.

2. prove even a country can successfully defeat u.s. nato intervention with Russian and Chinese help...already proven in Syria.

3. u.s. nato economic sanctions won't harm you with China and Russia on your side...already proven in Afghanistan and Iran.

4. u.s. nato won't protect you with their own forces against Russia or China...getting proven in ukraine and taiwan as we speak.

5. u.s. nato won't protect you against Russia and China even if you are a nato member...yet to be proven but I suspect that after ukraine has been subdued, this goal will be proven by targeting estonia and latvia.

after goal #5 is achieved, you can consider nato as dead.
Against Giants like China and Russia, it already is.. NATO is for small helpless countries.
 
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West is pushing Russia economically to China direction, you must be happy.
 
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europeans are in panic mode...they need Russian oil and gas but are too ashamed to admit that they have no other alternative without pushing the continent into hyper inflation. notice, they did not ban the Russian banks that handles transactions for oil and gas that they purchase from Russia. all this while Putin simply sits back and enjoys...
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In my humble opinion, the bigger picture of the ultimate Russian & Chinese goals are:

1. prove that a country already occupied by u.s. nato forces can be freed with Chinese and Russian help...already proven in Afghanistan.

2. prove even a country can successfully defeat u.s. nato intervention with Russian and Chinese help...already proven in Syria.

3. u.s. nato economic sanctions won't harm you with China and Russia on your side...already proven in Afghanistan and Iran.

4. u.s. nato won't protect you with their own forces against Russia or China...getting proven in ukraine and taiwan as we speak.

5. u.s. nato won't protect you against Russia and China even if you are a nato member...yet to be proven but I suspect that after ukraine has been subdued, this goal will be proven by targeting estonia and latvia.

after goal #5 is achieved, you can consider nato as dead.

China is/was no where in the picture be it Syria or Ukraine.
 
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In my humble opinion, the bigger picture of the ultimate Russian & Chinese goals are:

1. prove that a country already occupied by u.s. nato forces can be freed with Chinese and Russian help...already proven in Afghanistan.

2. prove even a country can successfully defeat u.s. nato intervention with Russian and Chinese help...already proven in Syria.

3. u.s. nato economic sanctions won't harm you with China and Russia on your side...already proven in Afghanistan and Iran.

4. u.s. nato won't protect you with their own forces against Russia or China...getting proven in ukraine and taiwan as we speak.

5. u.s. nato won't protect you against Russia and China even if you are a nato member...yet to be proven but I suspect that after ukraine has been subdued, this goal will be proven by targeting estonia and latvia.

after goal #5 is achieved, you can consider nato as dead.

I am not sure how you read global developments but you seem to have missed numerous ground realities in your assessment.

1. Iran, Pakistan and Russia were involved in Afghanistan in this capacity. All were fine with a broad-based Afghan political setup taking charge of Kabul but UNCLE Joe Biden made the call for unconditional withdrawal from the country in 2021.






UNCLE Joe Biden have turned Afghanistan into an impoverished country which might implode yet again if USA does not help stabilize Afghan economy.



2. This never happened.




US and Russia have DECONFLICT arrangement in Syria since 2015.


3. Russian economy dropped from 5th spot to 11th spot in the (2014 - 2021) period due to well-calculated American sanctions imposed on it for annexing Crimea in 2014. Now wait for European sanctions to take effect and bite Russian economy.




Russian commoners will suffer the most in the end.

4. NATO is not obligated to defend Ukraine openly but it is supplying arms to Ukrainian insurgents.


5. Are you sure about this?

Kosovo and Finland are looking forward to join NATO now - all thanks to Russian intervention in Ukraine.



Russia isn't all that it is cranked up to be. Vladimir Putin is trying to bite more than he can chew this time.
 
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europeans are in panic mode...they need Russian oil and gas but are too ashamed to admit that they have no other alternative without pushing the continent into hyper inflation. notice, they did not ban the Russian banks that handles transactions for oil and gas that they purchase from Russia. all this while Putin simply sits back and enjoys...
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if Russians do not sell natural gas to Europe who are they going to sell to ? Pakistan
 
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