Did Preet Bharara's office goof up in Devyani Khobragade case?

[Cherokee]

One sensational foolish media(though they have raised a question mark in the title) pointing to the lawyer's claim and everyone here is lapping it up as the gospel. If only the stupid Indian journalists had read the case details in US DOJ website, they would have realized that the agent has stated that the form - DS-160 which would be normally submitted by the applicant was filed by Devyani on behalf of the maid as it was filed from Devyani's computer. So if any "error" was made in the form, it was Devyani who is the culprit as well. Beyond that, there is also the first wage contract signed by Devyani which has been quoted for the visa fraud charges.

Did before you jump the gun .

Mistake was in Interpretation not filling form .

According to Khobragade's attorney Daniel Arshack, the special agent (Mark Smith) who drew up charges against his client made "a key error" in reading a form submitted on behalf of nanny Sangeeta, mistaking Khobragade's listed base salary of $4,500 per month for what she intended to pay her housekeeper.

 

[sree45]

There seems to be 3 sets of numbers now.
1) $4500/mo
2) the minimum wage amount $1560 ($9.75x40x4)
3) the contract amount = $???

If Ms. Khobragade had nothing to do with filing the visa then why was


That makes sense as how would the maid know Devyani's salary? Why would she ever tell her even if she asked? Unless it is public knowledge.

Since, you are a US citizen, can you tell me what is the minimum cost of living in New york?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Since, you are a US citizen, can you tell me what is the minimum cost of living in New york?

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[sree45]

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Okay.. So, Do you agree if i say that $1000 per month is the minimum amount required to survive in NY?

 

[harpoon]

India-US relations are being held to ransom by a greedy maid and an ambitious judge.

 

[Sashan]

Did before you jump the gun .

Mistake was in Interpretation not filling form .

According to Khobragade's attorney Daniel Arshack, the special agent (Mark Smith) who drew up charges against his client made "a key error" in reading a form submitted on behalf of nanny Sangeeta, mistaking Khobragade's listed base salary of $4,500 per month for what she intended to pay her housekeeper.

It does not matter. He had quoted two different nos in the case details. One about the salary quoted by DK in the First wage contract filed for US visa purposes - the $9 dollars and change. Another DS-160 form base salary again stating as filed by DK with the value of $4500. He has not misinterpreted. It is the attorney who is claiming the agent has done that. At the best case, the court will laugh at DK's stupidity in filing a form.

 

[graphican]

He erroneously and disastrously believed that the $4,500/month salary entry on the form was Ms Richard's expected salary when, in fact, it was clearly a reporting of the base salary to be earned by the employer, Dr Khobragade, in the United States," Arshack explained in an email to ToI.

In Australia, if you earn 4165/month, you are considered poor and government offers you health-care card, travel allowances and special leverages because government knows you cannot run a month on this sum. It is surprising to know that Indian Diplomat was earning 4500/month but still looking to employee a house-mate. This is a lame argument and would be trashed misreably.

 

[neehar]

Where is the moral brigade in this thread?
Devyani is going to walk to Airport and fly to India in Business class. Simple as that.
And may face charges here!

no she is gonna become the consulate general and the u.s has to deal with her every time she has to deal with india .that would be interesting

One sensational foolish media(though they have raised a question mark in the title) pointing to the lawyer's claim and everyone here is lapping it up as the gospel. If only the stupid Indian journalists had read the case details in US DOJ website, they would have realized that the agent has stated that the form - DS-160 which would be normally submitted by the applicant was filed by Devyani on behalf of the maid as it was filed from Devyani's computer. So if any "error" was made in the form, it was Devyani who is the culprit as well. Beyond that, there is also the first wage contract signed by Devyani which has been quoted for the visa fraud charges.

i never knew first post is indian!!
Attorney claims 'error' in Devyani arrest, Bharara may have goofed up | Firstpost

so after all they laid charges on the diplomat based on not any false document filed by the diplomat but by the document filled by the nanny!!sounds interesting

In Australia, if you earn 4165/month, you are considered poor and government offers you health-care card, travel allowances and special leverages because government knows you cannot run a month on this sum. It is surprising to know that Indian Diplomat was earning 4500/month but still looking to employee a house-mate. This is a lame argument and would be trashed misreably.

4500+allowances.lets wait and see what happens to the case after this new twist.

 

[Sashan]

no she is gonna become the consulate general and the u.s has to deal with her every time she has to deal with india .that would be interesting


i never knew first post is indian!!
Attorney claims 'error' in Devyani arrest, Bharara may have goofed up | Firstpost

so after all they laid charges on the diplomat based on not any false document filed by the diplomat but by the document filled by the nanny!!sounds interesting

The document was filed from DK's computer. The salary quoted in the form is DK's as claimed by her attorney. The agent has claimed in the case details that DK filed the form on nanny's behalf. DK's computer and DK's salary in the form which the maid may or may not be privy of - Interesting, isn't it?

 

[neehar]

The document was filed from DK's computer. The salary quoted in the form is DK's as claimed by her attorney. The agent has claimed in the case details that DK filed the form on nanny's behalf. DK's computer and DK's salary in the form which the maid may or may not be privy of - Interesting, isn't it?

where did you get the info that it was filled from her computer??even though if it is correct thats not a crime should'nt the nanny use her computer to fill the details??and where did the agent claimed that the diplomat filled the application??the document has to be submitted by the nanny and its her responsibility to present all the facts so if anything is wrong in the form thats the nanny's fault! the case is going to be closed any way and i'm sure we'll discuss this once the u.s govt will distance itself from the issue leaving the attorney and the agent as scape goats.

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ok so..how much might 1560+visa charges+residence in newyork+food+telephone bills to india +clothes+medical charges+travelling charges +beauty parlour every sunday be roughly??
im sure that would be way more than $4500

 

[Sashan]

where did you get the info that it was filled from her computer??even though if it is correct thats not a crime should'nt the nanny use her computer to fill the details??and where did the agent claimed that the diplomat filled the application??the document has to be submitted by the nanny and its her responsibility to present all the facts so if anything is wrong in the form thats the nanny's fault! the case is going to be closed any way and i'm sure we'll discuss this once the u.s govt will distance itself from the issue leaving the attorney and the agent as scape goats.

The U.S govt would have cut slack if there was no visibility. But with full media focus, there will be a fallout if U.S govt backs out and allows the attorney and the agent to fry. Afterall there is nothing illegal on what they did.

And here is the link to US DOJ case details against DK - post 47

Devyani Khobragade case: India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials | Page 3

 

[neehar]

The U.S govt would have cut slack if there was no visibility. But with full media focus, there will be a fallout if U.S govt backs out and allows the attorney and the agent to fry. Afterall there is nothing illegal on what they did.

And here is the link to US DOJ case details against DK - post 47

Devyani Khobragade case: India tightens screws, withdraws privileges for US consular officials | Page 3

lets wait and watch,this is an interesting development.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Sounds like this guy's over-eagerness to prove his worth has not gone down well with the saner lot...

Preet Bharara is trying to be Harvey Dent


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Devyani Khobragade accredited to the UN before arrest: India tells US

Washington: India has informed the US that Devyani Khobragade was accredited to the UN as a member of the country's delegation to the General Assembly before her arrest in a visa fraud case.

"We have been advised by the Government of India that Ms Khobragade was notified to the United Nations as a member of India's delegation to the United Nations General Assembly in September. We are currently looking into the matter," State Department Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf told PTI on Thursday.

The assertion by the Indian government that Ms Khobragade was part of the Indian delegation to the UN beginning September, sources said, would grant her full diplomatic immunity and thus any arrest would be considered a violation of the Vienna Convention.

With the latest revelation, it has emerged that Ms Khobragade enjoyed full diplomatic immunity including from personal arrest and detention on December 12 when she was taken into custody by the US authorities in the visa fraud case.

39-year-old Khobragade, who was posted as Deputy Consul General in New York, was also accredited as an "Advisor to the Permanent Mission of India to the United Nations" by the UN w.e.f. 26th August 2013 and her status as an Advisor was valid until December 31, 2013. The accreditation was for the UN General Assembly 2013, sources said in New Delhi.

Under the "Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations", Article 4 Section 11A specifies "Immunities from personal arrest or detention and from the seizure of their personal baggage" of all representatives of members to the UN and further the Article specifies that the expression "Representative" shall be deemed to include all Delegates, Deputy Delegates, Advisors, Technical Experts and Secretaries of delegations.

"Her arrest, therefore, on December 12th 2013 was contrary to her status on that date," sources said.

The 1999-batch IFS officer was arrested on December 12 on charges of making false declarations in a visa application for her maid Sangeeta Richard.

The diplomat was released on a USD 250,000 bond after being charged with visa fraud.

Subsequent revelations that she was strip-searched and held with criminals triggered a row between the two sides with India downgrading privileges of certain categories of US diplomats among other steps.