Did anza missiles fail during kargil?

[Krate M]

Starting this thread based on request by @Dazzler
Pol Eco, NOS, The News International

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China, the other friend, on the other hand helped us to struggle with the remaking of first generation discarded missiles. Not a single one of the Anza missiles worked in Kargil.

Request a unpassionate discussion.
I believe the article is discussing the mk1. I believe that caused the mk1 to be discontinued. There may have been technical problems which may have been rectified later

 

[!eon]

what killed 2 Indian birds ?

 

[halfilhal]

what killed 2 Indian birds ?

Maybe safed ghodo par sawaar mujahideen jinki talwaro se roshni nikal rahi thi.

 

[indiatester]

what killed 2 Indian birds ?

Stinger Missiles.

 

[Bilal.]

Stinger Missiles.

The migs were downed by Anza where as the Mi-8 was scored by a stinger.

 

[indiatester]

The migs were downed by Anza where as the Mi-8 was scored by a stinger.

One of the migs was said to be an engine flame out. The second one was reportedly by an Anza-II.

 

[Bilal.]

One of the migs was said to be an engine flame out. The second one was reportedly by an Anza-II.

Pakistan claims both were shot down, India claims that the mig-21 was lost due to engine flame out. In any case Anza downed the migs or at least a single mig.

 

[indiatester]

Pakistan claims both were shot down, India claims that the mig-21 was lost due to engine flame out. In any case Anza downed the migs or at least a single mig.

Was it an Anza-I or Anza-II that was used to shoot it(them) down?
The discussion here is about failure of Anza-I.

 

[Assault Rifle]

PAF officer Kaiser who was Director of Operations during Kargil himself has admitted that one and not two IAF jets were shot down by SAMs.
MiG-27 went down due to engine trouble caused by gun gas ingestion.

The salient feature of this initial phase was strafing and rocketing of the intruders’ positions by MiG-21, MiG-23BN and MiG-27. All operations (except air defence) came to a sudden standstill on 28 May, after two IAF fighters and a helicopter were lost – a MiG-21 and a Mi-17 to Pak Army surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), while a MiG-27 went down due to engine trouble caused by gun gas ingestion during high altitude strafing. (Incidentally, the pilot of the MiG-27 Flt Lt Nachiketa, who ejected and was apprehended, had a tête-à-tête with this author during an interesting ‘interrogation’ session.)

Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force

@halfihal @!eon @Bilal. @indiatester @Krate M

 

[Bilal.]

Was it an Anza-I or Anza-II that was used to shoot it(them) down?
The discussion here is about failure of Anza-I.

Anza mk II. Mk I is indeed an outdated manpads based on sa-7. I am not sure if it's in service anymore.

 

[JonAsad]

Whats the use discussing outdated weapon system?-

Question should be did the Migs fail during Kargil since 2 of them went down-

 

[gslv mk3]

Question should be did the Migs fail during Kargil

Only one of them was shot down.

 

[JonAsad]

Only one of them was shot down.

You do not know how many anza were fired- that didnt stop the poster from asking the question-
All i care about is that 2 Migs crashed during operation with little to no resistance from PAF or our air defence systems-

 

[Kompromat]

Irrelevent now. Anza is getting highly advanced sensors in the III upgrade. @Oscar can explain this.

 

[GORKHALI]

You do not know how many anza were fired- that didnt stop the poster from asking the question-
All i care about is that 2 Migs crashed during operation with little to no resistance from PAF or our air defence systems-

No resistance because F16 got painted red again and again by BVRs while F7 were sitting ducks.
Aeronaut: Kargil Conflict and Pakistan Air Force
PS - Not my words but your own ex chief.