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Another thing I wanted to share:

9. The evidence of Officers repatriated from India leaves no doubt that this extensive and prolonged involvement of the Pakistan Army in Martial Law duties and civil administration had a disastrous effect on its professional and moral standards. According to Brig. M. Salcemullah, who was commanding 203 (A) Brigade in East Pakistan, "prolonged commitment on Martial Law duties and interment security roles had affected the professional standards of the Army." According to Rear Admiral M. Sharif (Witness No. 283) who was the Flag Officer Commanding the Pakistan Navy in East Pakistan, "the foundation of this defeat was laid way back in 1958 when the Armed Forces took over the country ..." While learning the art of politics in this newly assigned role to themselves, they gradually abandoned their primary function of the art of soldiering, they also started amassing wealth and usurping status for themselves." Similar views were expressed before us by Commodore I.H. Malik (Witness No. 272) who was the Chairman of the Chittagong Port Trust until the day of surrender, Brigadier S.S.A Qasim, former Commander Artillery, Eastern Command, Col. Mansoorul Haw Malik, former GS-I, 9 division, East Pakistan, and Col. Ijaz Ahmad (Witness No. 247) former Colonel Staff (GS) Eastern Command, to mention only a few.

10. The fresh evidence coming before the Commission has thus served only to reinforce the conclusions reached by us in the Main Report that the involvement of the Pakistan Army in Martial Law duties and civil administration had a highly corrupting influence, seriously detracting from the professional duties of the Army and affecting the quality of training which the Officers could impart to their units and formations, for the obvious reason that they did not have enough time available for this purpose, and many of them also lost the inclination to do so

Hamoodur Rahman Commission Report_Dawn (1).pdf (thedailystar.net)

We've not learned anything and continue to make a mistake after mistakes. So when people ask why we didn't join the fight against Indians when the Chinese asked in 1962, yet we went to war three years later. The excerpts from Admiral M. Sharif should be put forward.

The issues that have continued to plague Pakistan to this day squarely lie in the military.
 
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@akramishaqkhan

Another thing I wanted to share:

9. The evidence of Officers repatriated from India leaves no doubt that this extensive and prolonged involvement of the Pakistan Army in Martial Law duties and civil administration had a disastrous effect on its professional and moral standards. According to Brig. M. Salcemullah, who was commanding 203 (A) Brigade in East Pakistan, "prolonged commitment on Martial Law duties and interment security roles had affected the professional standards of the Army." According to Rear Admiral M. Sharif (Witness No. 283) who was the Flag Officer Commanding the Pakistan Navy in East Pakistan, "the foundation of this defeat was laid way back in 1958 when the Armed Forces took over the country ..." While learning the art of politics in this newly assigned role to themselves, they gradually abandoned their primary function of the art of soldiering, they also started amassing wealth and usurping status for themselves." Similar views were expressed before us by Commodore I.H. Malik (Witness No. 272) who was the Chairman of the Chittagong Port Trust until the day of surrender, Brigadier S.S.A Qasim, former Commander Artillery, Eastern Command, Col. Mansoorul Haw Malik, former GS-I, 9 division, East Pakistan, and Col. Ijaz Ahmad (Witness No. 247) former Colonel Staff (GS) Eastern Command, to mention only a few.

10. The fresh evidence coming before the Commission has thus served only to reinforce the conclusions reached by us in the Main Report that the involvement of the Pakistan Army in Martial Law duties and civil administration had a highly corrupting influence, seriously detracting from the professional duties of the Army and affecting the quality of training which the Officers could impart to their units and formations, for the obvious reason that they did not have enough time available for this purpose, and many of them also lost the inclination to do so

Hamoodur Rahman Commission Report_Dawn (1).pdf (thedailystar.net)

We've not learned anything and continue to make a mistake after mistakes. So when people ask why we didn't join the fight against Indians when the Chinese asked in 1962, yet we went to war three years later. The excerpts from Admiral M. Sharif should be put forward.

The issues that have continued to plague Pakistan to this day squarely lie in the military.
I have been saying this for years and my voice is now hoarse from it.

Men of war are a very select breed. You bring them closer to the worldly pleasures, tools and goods, and you dull your sword. We have been dulling our swords for decades now.
 
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The DG ISI sounded like he was literally gonna cry :lol:

This DG ISI is an absolute scumbag. A filthy rat just by facial features. This man has been nothing, but a complete jerk since he has occupied this position.

Late Asma jehangir correctly characterized them as "DANGEROUS DUFFERS".

I cannot believe this. The day has come that I have to retract every single statement I made against the proponents of the Pak army. From Asma Jahangir to PTM and all others that have suffered at the hands of this evil. These people were correct. We were sorely wrong. We defended an evil cult that has destroyed Pakistan. It doesn't even hurt to say this anymore. Better late than never.
 
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The ISI/ISPR press conference has all the hallmarks of Bajwa wanting to precipitate a political crisis to allow him to form the narrative for a military coup under the pretence of political stability and security...

Bajwa has done the "rounds" in the West and the Middle East has obviously not been able to find another institution, organisation or think tank - or anything "to take him on" and pay him an oversized fat salary that will allow him to rest his oversized ego at - so this is his last remaining roll of the dice.

If army does do a coup, it will be the final nail in the coffin of its lost respect. It will lose so much, it will be like Punjab police. The people will not accept martial law this time. At each of previous martial laws, military was very much respected. That respect is gone now.
 
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This DG ISI is an absolute scumbag. A filthy rat just by facial features. This man has been nothing, but a complete jerk since he has occupied this position.



I cannot believe this. The day has come that I have to retract every single statement I made against the proponents of the Pak army. From Asma Jahangir to PTM and all others that have suffered at the hands of this evil. These people were correct. We were sorely wrong. We defended an evil cult that has destroyed Pakistan. It doesn't even hurt to say this anymore. Better late than never.
I feel the same.
 
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Please Rewind to 2years ago when your leader openly named them🤭. But no, those times it was suiting your narrative. Anyhow, love how a single person and the entire nation is causing immense pain to the POWERFUL 🎉
When the likes of Gobar Arya is feeling hurt for colonial sepoys, you know they are thoroughly compromised.
 
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A lollipop handed over to many by military is being celebrated as a victory, bravo.
 
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Editorial:

Establishment has only itself to blame for exposing spy chief to Imran's trenchant criticism


THE gloves are well and truly off in the showdown between the state and the PTI, and the security establishment will find that it only has itself to blame for exposing the spy chief to the trenchant criticism now being levelled against him by former prime minister Imran Khan.

The military leadership ought to have foreseen the reaction to the decision to formally pit the ISI against a politician who is riding a growing wave of public support. Instead of being intimidated, Mr Khan seems to have found a reason to strike back with added vindictiveness.

He is now channelling his rage at the spy chief and other intelligence officials by name and without inhibition, because Thursday’s press talk by the military has apparently provided him with an opening to do so.

While addressing the participants of his ongoing long march on Friday, Mr Khan went on the offensive against Lt-Gen Nadeem Anjum for the latter’s assertion that the spy agency is “apolitical and neutral”, arguing that the ISI chief had, in fact, delivered a “political presser” — “more political than anything Sheikh Rashid has ever managed” — while ignoring the “group of thieves” currently sitting in government.

Mr Khan also positioned himself on the moral high ground when he suggested that he, too, could embarrass the security establishment if he chose to speak but would remain quiet in the interest of the country and the institutions of the state.

He was also able to publicly cast doubt on the claims of the army leadership that it was staying away from politics, by referring to the alleged involvement of senior officers in the arrest and torture of two PTI leaders.

The PTI’s long march was being perceived, at least till Thursday morning, as just another battle of wits between the PTI and the PDM. The security establishment walked itself into that equation, displacing the ruling coalition that now found itself on the sidelines of the battle for political supremacy. It may have felt there were good reasons for doing so, but what those reasons were is still not clear, even if one can understand the concern to counter Mr Khan’s narrative.

What was it that needed to be said by the intelligence chief himself on a public rostrum that the military’s spokesman could not have conveyed? What was the objective of the exercise and what has been gained from it?

These are the questions that are being asked about the security establishment’s decision to enter into confrontation with a political party, which appears to have worsened the distrust prevailing among the citizenry rather than healing the existing divide.

Instead of taking the sting out of the PTI chairman’s campaign, the decision to involve the ISI chief only appears to have stirred the hornet’s nest. Mr Khan seems to have the advantage in this round at least.

Published in Dawn, October 30th, 2022
 
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