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Deterring a joint China-Pak attack
Aug 19, 2013
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To protect our territorial integrity, we need to change India’s “no first use” (NFU) doctrine to make it similar to that of Pakistan and China. India should declare that it may use tactical nuclear weapons in case its “red lines” are crossed.

In 2008, based on my four-decade-long experience in the Indian Navy and Coast Guard, small activities and border skirmishes caught my attention and, as I began studying them, I saw a diabolic pattern emerging.

Alarmingly, it all added up to Pakistani terrorists getting ready to carry out an attack on India by sea. On May 19, 2008, The Asian Age published my article, The next terror attack could be from the sea. The carnage of 26/11 took place six months later.

Fifty-one years after the disastrous 1962 war with China, India continues to pay the price for ignoring its defences, this time in Ladakh, where lack of infrastructure (there is still no road link from Leh to the eastern airstrip at Daulat Beg Oldi, and men need to march for six days across mountainous terrain to cover this distance), and lack of adequate force levels have left a vulnerability which is being exploited skilfully by China. Favourable flat terrain, excellent Chinese infrastructure and force availability means that Chinese troops can reach the disputed territory in eastern Ladakh in 12-24 hours.

The recent change of political leadership in China and Pakistan, along with the impending American withdrawal from Afghanistan, has resulted in more coordinated China-Pak activities along our borders. When Nawaz Sharif came to power on June 5, 2013, he immediately set up the “Kashmir cell”. Less than two months later, on August 2, 2013, bombs went off near our Jalalabad consulate. Now, studying the pattern of activities along the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir (the August 6 killing of five jawans, firing along the LoC and the Kishtwar riots) and the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh (the April 2013 Depsang area faceoff, and present probes by the Chinese Army), I am once again worried that a joint China-Pak threat may materialise at very short notice, specially now that we are in “election mode”.

China, worried about the security of its proposed $18 billion “energy corridor” (oil pipeline, road and rail links) from Xinjiang province to Gwadar port via Karakoram mountains, has apparently decided that it needs to grab some disputed territory in eastern Ladakh, close to its proposed energy corridor.

Given the infrastructure and military capability in eastern Ladakh — armed Indian policemen and a few soldiers — the Chinese Army can launch an air-ground offensive with 10-20,000 motorised troops and 100-300 tanks to capture the entire area it claims as its own in north-eastern Ladakh in 48 hours. The border airstrips of Daulat Beg Oldi and Nyoma could be captured by Chinese helicopter-borne forces in a few hours, thus cutting off airborne logistics to eastern Ladakh.

Active intervention by the Indian Air Force (IAF), even if approved immediately by the government, may have little impact on the outcome given the current force levels on both sides.
If it seizes about 1,000 sq km in north-eastern Ladakh, China would not only ensure security of its proposed “Karakoram-Gwadar” energy corridor, but also make our positions on the Saltoro ridge untenable — our troops would have the Chinese behind them and the Pakistanis in front.

If this crisis were to erupt, Chinese warships, submarines and aircraft would move to Gwadar port and airfield, thus nullifying peninsular India’s natural geographical advantage of being located astride China’s sea lines of communications, through which it exports goods and imports energy. Gwadar-based Chinese naval units could cut off Indian energy imports from West Asia.

In April 2011, Pakistan signed a contract with China for delivery of six Qing-class conventional submarines, expected to begin entering service by 2014-15. Each of these Qing subs will have the capability to fire three nuclear-tipped CJ-10 cruise missiles with a range of 2,500 km.

India’s leaders need to remember that in the 1998 Pokhran II nuclear tests, India tested four nuclear devices (of 0.2, 0.4, 0.8 kilo and 14 tons each), which would qualify as tactical nuclear weapons (TNWs) for delivery against large enemy military formations invading our territory, including in Ladakh. These TNWs would deter a massive Chinese ground assault in eastern Ladakh, as they could decimate the invading force once it crossed into Indian territory. Of course, both China and Pakistan have TNWs, and will not hesitate to use them on India.

To protect our territorial integrity, we need to change India’s “no first use” (NFU) doctrine and make it similar to that of Pakistan and China. India should declare that it may use tactical nuclear weapons in case its “red lines” (eg. unacceptable loss of territory) are crossed. These TNWs must, of course, be inducted under strict control of the Nuclear Command Authority.

A hostile China-Pak adventure can only be deterred by nuclear weapons, political will and a new nuclear doctrine. Our Mandarin-speaking China experts and Punjabi-speaking Pakistani experts need to let professionals advise the government on security matters.

The writer retired as Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the Eastern Naval Command, Visakhapatnam
http://www.asianage.com/columnists/deterring-joint-china-pak-attack-259
 
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Simple conclusion we need to develop infrastructure fast on the Indian side. We should engage China with dialog and end the border dispute soon.

And i think things are moving in the right direction.

Measures identified to reduce massive trade deficit with Beijing

The Fifth India-China Strategic Dialogue held here on Tuesday saw both sides making firm moves to narrow the massive balance of trade in Beijing’s favour but discussions on the border issue and trans-border river flows saw them reiterating positions stated during the high-level meeting in July this year between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Li Keiqang.

On the border issue, that has come to the fore after two incidents along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), both sides put their faith in the most recent bilateral mechanism — the Working Mechanism on Border.

Meeting for just over three hours, the two sides led by Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh and Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister Liu Zhenmin, hoped they would soon finalise a Border Defence Cooperation Agreement (BDCA) that will seek to update a 2005 agreement on maintaining peace and tranquillity by adding some more components agreed upon during the intervening years. Two meetings have been held on the subject and India is currently examining a reworked Chinese draft on a BDCA.

But the Indian proposal for a separate mechanism to deal with trans-border river flows once again failed to win the approval of the Chinese who appeared content with the current Expert Level Mechanism that deals with flood-season data of Satluj and Brahmaputra rivers and help in emergency management. With fears about possible diversion of the waters of Brahmaputra from the Great Bend area in Tibet, India wants a joint mechanism that can make timely assessment of water flows. At present it comes to know of Chinese moves to build dams on the Brahmaputra through aerial reconnaissance and intelligence reports. A formal acknowledgement by China comes in its plan documents and this happens a couple of years after reports about construction activity at a particular place on the river.

But most progress was made in the area of investment and trade with both sides identifying certain measures that could yield $7 billion annually in additional trade for India three to five years after they are implemented. India currently runs a $35 billion annual trade deficit with China and needs steps like these to make bilateral trade sustainable.

Import duty on cotton fabrics

In case China halves import duty on cotton fabrics from the current 10 per cent, India could raise its exports from $700 million to $6 billion in three-to-five years. And if phytosanitary norms are simplified, buffalo meat exports could net India another $1 billion annually. Relaxation of similar standards in areas such as marine products could add more value to exports from India.

There was a discussion on Chinese investment in India relating to industrial parks. Currently the two sides are working on an MoU and are aiming for early finalisation to enhance Chinese investment in India. As China is exporting power equipment in large numbers, the need for setting up service centres in India for servicing this equipment was also discussed.

The Strategic Dialogue is among the several bilateral mechanisms that intermittently meet depending on the state of play of ties. This particular dialogue was held after nearly three years and conducted a complete review of pending issues. The starting point was the joint statement issued after the Manmohan Singh-Li Keiqang meeting with an eye on a possible visit to Beijing by Dr. Singh.

According to an official release, issues discussed by the two sides included enhancing understanding on the utilisation of trans-border river waters, addressing problems of the large and growing deficit faced by India, ways of maintaining peace and tranquillity along the LAC and expansion of scientific and technological cooperation.

India, China hope to finalise border defence cooperation pact - The Hindu
 
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Now we have a retired senior Indian naval officer advocating first strike nuclear attack on China and Pakistan.:pissed:

He is not wrong a combined attack by China-Pak is unsustainable for us,so its better to have first strike policy and red lines drawn.
 
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If India strikes us and Pakistan first with nuclear weapons,no one in the world will stop us from unleashing all our nuclear stockpiles onto India and wipe it off the face of the earth.no one will be on their side then.

if India makes such policy then China gets the justification of striking first with nuclear weapon without any notice LOL
i really wonder how being an army officer he can be that dumb.
 
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It's amazing how all the incidents on the LoC in past years, all have been labelled 'unprovoked' by the Indian side.
And immediately after, they do all the warmongering, the army lies, the hysterical media reports, then idiots like the author paint this kind of scenario.
 
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if India makes such policy then China gets the justification striking first with nuclear weapon without any notice LOL
i really wonder how being an army officer can be that dumb.

You really are dumb aren't you.
What does deterrence means?
 
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Now we have a retired senior Indian naval officer advocating first strike nuclear attack on China and Pakistan.:pissed:

Is this a news to you?

You think India is not going to use nuclear weapons against China, bet it first strike or last strike.

Preemptive nuking of China has these advantages: IMO

1. It will instantly cripple Chinese defensive capability and Tibet will be easy to occupy and annex with India.
2. Chinese will be engaged in the aftermath of preemptive nuclear strikes deep in their homeland, rescue and rehab operations will be the major task of PLA.
3. China will lose counter strike capability because soon after nuking China, India and NATO forces will start compelling you to surrender.

The noose is tightening around the neck of China.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...urrounded-us-encirclement-military-bases.html
 
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woh sab baad mei... check out the footage of Indians and Chinese jostling (I think in AP) on front page of TOI
 
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I doubt that any serious military planner takes the adversary's No First Use declarations seriously.

What country would willingly go to its death and leave all its nuclear arsenal untouched?
 
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He is not wrong a combined attack by China-Pak is unsustainable for us,so its better to have first strike policy and red lines drawn.

but nuclear capability and stockpile is tiny comparing with China's,what good you can get from striking us first?

China’s nuclear arsenal which started stockpiling in 1964, The most powerful ones among China’s nuclear arsenal have yields of over 4 megatons. In comparison, India’s strategic nuclear force which started stockpiling after the 1998 Shakti tests, The most powerful among India’s nuclear warheads has an yield of 0.05 megatons which is minuscule, compared to China. and China’s nuclear delivery system is far more advanced than India’s, with multi-warhead MIRV capable ICBMs like DF-5A [12000+ km] and DF-4 [7500+ km]. It also possesses submarine launched SLBMs like JL-1 [4500+ km] and strategic fighter bombers are in its nuclear weapons delivery arsenal.
 
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