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Deoband fatwa: It's illegal for women to work, support family

Women can work and its Illegal , Even hazrat Khadija RA, the first wife of our Prophet (S.A.W) was a business women and Prophet (S.A.W) used to take Hazrat Ayesha Siddiqa to even battle feilds as per my knowledge.

And we being Muslims need a fatwa to tell us that its legal for women to work in Islam is a big shame, its common sense whats wrong with it. Islam is the religion for intelligence, only illiterates among us finds reasons to think that its not good for women to go out work.

And i thing its more of our regional cultures that over shadow the teachings of Islam.

I think you meant Legal.:azn:
 
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Women can work and its Illegal , Even hazrat Khadija RA, the first wife of our Prophet (S.A.W) was a business women

True

but also remember there is a difference between running a business and working under somebody as an employee

and Prophet (S.A.W) used to take Hazrat Ayesha Siddiqa to even battle feilds as per my knowledge.
ahan? - any source to prove this claim? Please do not quote me the references from the Battle of the camels (Jang-e-Jamal). Just prove what you said above

And we being Muslims need a fatwa to tell us that its legal for women to work in Islam is a big shame, its common sense whats wrong with it. Islam is the religion for intelligence, only illiterates among us finds reasons to think that its not good for women to go out work.

Well it depends upon case by case bases yaar. If the women's family is rich, it is recommended that she stays at home. If they are poor........ there is no harm to work..... usually there must be a valid reason of her work otherwise its better if she stays at home (but still allowed to work but slightly discouraged)

And i thing its more of our regional cultures that over shadow the teachings of Islam.

i think you are right
 
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Women can work and its Legal , Even hazrat Khadija RA, the first wife of our Prophet (S.A.W) was a business women and Prophet (S.A.W) used to take Hazrat Ayesha Siddiqa to even battle feilds as per my knowledge.
I am not saying that women can't work or something ( I don't have enough knowledge) but you are quoting an example from history that took place before Islam. I would be better if you consider the timeline before giving examples.
 
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Dar Uloom Deoband India the Indian source of the Taliban:

Darul Uloom Deoband: The Indian Source of the Taliban | Kabul Center for Strategic Studies

The Taliban learned their interpretation of Islam while studying at Deobandi seminaries in Pakistan. Mullah Omar, for example, the leader of the Taliban, attended the Deobandi Darul Uloom Haqqania madrassa in Akora Khattak, in Peshawar, Pakistan. So many Taliban leaders were educated at this same school that its head cleric, Maulana Sami ul-Haq, has been called the father of the Taliban.

Another of the school’s alumni is Pakistani Taliban leader, Jalaluddin Haqqani. He was the Minister of Tribal Affairs under the Taliban. Today, he and his sons use a network of Deobandi madrassas, the Dar Uloom schools in Waziristan, to indoctrinate, recruit, and train jihadists that they deploy in the insurgency in Afghanistan. Deobandi-trained armies under Haqqani have taken credit for bombing the five-star Serena hotel in Kabul last winter, and are suspected in the Indian embassy bombings that took place in Kabul this summer. The U.S. military has identified one of Haqqani’s sons, Siraj, as no less than the leading threat to security in eastern Afghanistan. Many analysts believe he is the heir apparent to Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Researchers from Kabul Center and the Indian Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses visited the headquarters of the Deobandi movement in the city of Deoband, about 150 kilometers northeast of New Delhi, in mid-November.


History of the Deobandi movement

The school was established in 1866, during the early period of India’s long struggle for independence from British colonial rule. The school’s founder, Maulana Mohammad Qasim Nanautvi, set up the center to establish a place where Muslims could retreat in order to escape what he believed was the corrupting encroachment of Western civilization. He wanted the school to become a place where Muslims could return to what he believed was the pure Islam, the Islam that was practiced by the Prophet and his companions.
The founder must have touched on a deep longing, as the school quickly emerged as one of the most important centers of Islamic learning in the British Indian Empire.

A century later, when Britain was finally relinquishing its control on the sub-continent, the Deobandis sided with Mahama Gandhi against the leading Muslim politician at the time, Mohammad Ali Jinnah. Like Gandhi, the Deobandis opposed the idea partitioning India into two secular states, one especially for Muslims, to be called Pakistan, and the other, India – that would welcome all Indians, regardless of their beliefs.

The Deobandi scholars opposed the Jinnah plan because in their minds, there was nothing Islamic about a secular Muslim state. Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani, then head of the Deobandi movement, believed that the Islamic alternative was to have all Indians endeavor together to create a democratic state Indians of every faith. (Abdul Sattar Ghazali, Islamic Pakistan: IIlusions & Reality).

Jinnah would prevail. And so in 1947, when the subcontinent was divided, the Deobandis, elected not to move to the new state of Pakistan and instead they stayed in their traditional home, which was now in the new state of India.
Soon the two new states were on hostile terms, over a dispute over which state should control the Himalayan state of Kashmir. What this meant to the Deobandis was that now followers of the movement in Pakistan had to create their own centers of learning – they no longer had the same access to the center in Deoband.

Instead of diminishing the movement’s influence, however, the international border that now bisected its sphere of influence may have strengthened the Deobandis. Now new leaders had additional space in which to grow without
having to threaten the center’s power.


Deobandi madrassas proliferated in the new environment and today, the force of the movement can be seen in the Deobandi madrassas that can be found, not just in India and Pakistan, but also in countries as far away as Europe and North American. An estimated 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques are identified as Deobandi mosques according to a London Times report. (The Times, Sep. 7, 2007).

Moreover, many of the Deobandi centers are characterized by the media as “hard-line.” (The Times, Sep. 7, 2007). This is because like the Taliban, many of the Deobandi madrassas have been linked to extremism.
“Dirty bomber” Jose Padilla, for example, attended a Deobandi mosque in South Florida where he is said to have learned the interpretation of Islam that would steer him toward Al Qaeda, and land him a 17-year prison sentence for aiding terrorists.
Kabul Center researchers wanted to find out what the Darul Uloom Deobandi leaders thought about the school’s various connections to terrorism and so they set out from Delhi in November.

Unfortunately, they arrived in Deoband a day earlier than expected. While the mufti, or head cleric of the school was unable to accommodate the last minute schedule changes, Adil Siddiqi, the public relations officer, was made available to the researchers. Mr. Siddiqi introduced himself, telling the researchers he has served the school in this capacity, for twenty years now, ever since he retired as an official in the Indian Ministry of Culture and Information.

A native of Deoband, Mr. Siddiqi, never attended the madrassa himself though, curiously, his father taught at the school.

He explained that he was educated in the secular system for “economic reasons” – the same reasons he chose to educate his own children – two boys and two girls – in the same state-run secular system as opposed to the Deobandi madrassa.

Like his father, he went on to say that he never imposed any religious views on his children. Though he identifies himself as a Deobandi, he never memorized the Koran and any religious education he has is “self-taught.”

In addition, he admitted that his lifestyle is not as pure as the Deobandis who stay at the center. While at the center all forms of entertainment are banned as they are considered to be corrupting. Mr. Siddiqi confessed to watching television at home – “the news,” he said, smiling. Here are excerpts from the researchers’ conversation with Mr. Siddiqi.

Muslims in India

Kabul Direct: How are Muslims doing in India?
Adil Siddiqi: In general, Muslims in India are very depressed due to economic problems. They have the problem of educational backwardness. Because of their backwardness, Muslims have not been able to serve the Indian nation very well.
Kabul Direct: How many Muslims are there in India?
Adil Siddiqi: Around 200 million, spread throughout the country.
Kabul Direct: What explains their economic and educational backwardness?
Adil Siddiqi: Muslims in India were originally drawn from the lower castes. They were the people who were exploited by the Brahmins. This is why they converted to Islam. They responded to Islam’s message of equality. Still, they remain weak, economically and educationally.
Kabul Direct: What about the political participation of Muslims in Indian government?
Adil Siddiqi: Indian Muslims take part in all political spheres. But again, because of their weakness in the economic and educational spheres, their political progress is less than it should be.

The Curriculum

Kabul Direct: As the oldest Deoband seminary around the world, how many students do you have?
Adil Siddiqi: Today we have some 3,500 students. Every year about 800 students graduate from our program. Not one of our students is unemployed or jobless. Not one of them is involved in any kind of anti-social activity. Our students go on to leave peaceful lives, to spread the message of Islam as a religion of peace throughout the world.
Kabul Direct: what about your educational programs?
Adil Siddiqi: The program is a twelve-year program. The elementary education is a five- year program. Then there is a seven-year advanced program.
Kabul Direct: What subjects are taught?
Adil Siddiqi: We teach philosophy, literature, logic, Islamic jurisprudence and other subjects too. After completing our full program, a student who wants to go further can specialize and
continue his studies in the seminary.
Kabul Direct: What about the journalism and computer courses you offer. Are all students obliged to take these courses?
Adil Siddiqi: Only students who want to pursue these courses.
Kabul Direct: Are your students only from India or from around the world as well?
Adil Siddiqi: The majority is Indian, but we have students from abroad as well. For example, we have students from England and so on.
Funding

Students at the school are not expected to pay tuition, and the researchers were curious as to where the money came from.
Kabul Direct: How is the school funded?
Adil Siddiqi: The school’s funds come from Muslims, from charities and so on. Do not forget that this is the age of globalization. We have many followers from around the world who support our institution.
Kabul Direct: What is your annual budget?
Adil Siddiqi: [Around $3 million U.S.].
Kabul Direct: Do you publish your financial statements?
Adil Siddiqi: Yes, for sure. Our expenditures and income is regularly is checked by the Indian government. Government officials monitor our finances.


Clash with the West

Kabul Direct: As every scholar and citizen is aware, the idea that there is a clash occurring between Islam and the West is gaining ground. Some have called for a dialogue – between Islam as a religion and the West as a geography. Is this how to address this rising issue?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, a conspiracy started under the Bush strategy and administration. Now the Bush era is over. With the newly-elected president in the United States, Mr. Obama, it is hoped, will change the policies of his country towards the Islamic world, and thereby change the situation in the world
Kabul Direct: According to your institution, should such a dialogue happen?
Adil Siddiqi: Dialogue is always welcomed. But it should be based on sincerity.
Kabul Direct: Should the dialogue be between the West and Islam or between the holy religions – between Islam and Christianity, for example, or between Islam and Judaism?
Adil Siddiqi: Dialogue must happen. But it should not be ambiguous or with reservation.
On Al Qaeda’s view of Islam

Kabul Direct: The Bush policies notwithstanding, don’t you think it has been Bin Laden and his harsh and inhuman interpretation of Islam that has most damaged Islam’s image in the world?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, it is claimed that Osama Bin Laden was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks. But where is the evidence? Who has proved this claim that Osama has planned the attacks? This has never been proved.
Kabul Direct: But what about his interpretation of Islam? Do you think he is right in his interpretation of our religion?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, I have to mention one major point. Osama and his organization have misused the word of Jihad, they have applied it in the wrong sense. We oppose what he describes as jihad. We direct our efforts to interpret Jihad according to the present situation, the time and context.
Kabul Direct: So what is [Darul Uloom Deoband’s] interpretation of Jihad?
Adil Siddiqi: Jihad means efforts to make our lives peaceful. This is the true message of Islam throughout the world. This is the real meaning of Jihad. We have to promote Islam. I don’t think it is Jihad to kill, oppress, and attack people.
The other major usage of Jihad is that Muslims can defend themselves. In Islam and in Jihad, we can defend ourselves from the attacks of the enemy. All the rights of self-defense are declared in Islam. Only for self-defense are we allowed to fight. Otherwise we are not allowed to wage war.
Kabul Direct: What about suicide attacks in Afghanistan? Are suicide attacks legitimate? Are they right to conduct suicide attacks?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, this is Afghanistan’s matter. We can’t interfere in the affairs of Afghanistan or the affairs of other countries.
Kabul Direct: You don’t think suicide attacks are unIslamic?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, in particular situations, I think they are unIslamic.
Kabul Direct: But in Pakistan, madrassas who are using the name Deoband are involved in attacks and the killing of innocents. As the largest Islamic Deoband seminary in the world, have you ever sent a message to tell them that what they are doing is not allowed in Deoband?
Adil Siddiqi: We have always given the message that activities – murder, the killing of innocents- is not Islamic, that such actions are anti-Islam and against our interpretation of Islam.
In fact, it was only in February of this year that Darul Uloom Deoband issued its first blanket condemnation of terrorism. In the decree, the clerics stated that “Islam is a religion of mercy for all humanity. Islam sternly condemns all kinds of oppression, violence and terrorism.” (AFP, Feb. 25, 2008)

Deobandi efforts to disassociate Islam from terrorism do seem to be accelerating of late. A few days before the researchers arrived in Deoband, some 4,000 senior clerics met in Hyderabad and endorsed the second Deobandi fatwa against terrorism that was issued in May. The May fatwa read: “Islam is in no way connected with terrorism and all those who are responsible for terrorist acts leading to loss of life and property of innocent people are not Muslims.” The Hindu, Nov. 9, 2008.)
Maulana Mahmood Madani, general- secretary of Jamiat Ulama-i Hind, a political party founded by Darul Uloom Deoband clerics, said the next step was to gather clerics from across the entire sub- continent, including Pakistan and Afghanistan and have them endorse the anti-terrorism decree as well. (Radio Free Europe, Nov. 18, 2008).

Perhaps this is why in mid-October, a group of radical clerics in Pakistan came out with their own fatwa repudiating suicide and other “senseless” jihadist attacks in Pakistan. The fatwa’s endorsers included the head of the banned Deobandi-inspired Sipah-e Sahaba, a group that is notorious for its brutal attacks against Shia Muslims. (BBC Monitoring South Asia, October 16, 2008).

Afghans were disappointed to note the ruling was silent on such “senseless” attacks inside Afghanistan. But many Afghans were cautiously optimistic at least this was some indication the Deobandis had taken stock of what their followers have done to the image of Islam.

The Afghan Insurgency

Kabul Direct: [The Taliban] say they are fighting Jihad [in Afghanistan] with their suicide attacks and murders. They say they are doing these things under the banner of Islam, in accordance with the Hanafi and the Deobandi schools to Afghan citizens. But is what they are doing in Afghanistan, to an Islamic nation with a constitution that states that Islam is the basis of its law, with a government that was elected by Muslim people, really in accordance with the teachings of Deobandism?
Adil Siddiqi: Well what the Taliban claims that is Deobanism dates back to fifty years ago. But since that time, we have brought about many changes to Deoband. Today our approach to any case is based on the current situation and present era. So Deoband cannot be held responsible for the Taliban’s mind set.
Kabul Direct: So are you saying that what the Taliban is doing is anti-Deoband?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, every place has its own problems. We have to analyze the particular context to see what is good and what is bad. Then we can decide about that.
Kabul Direct: What do you think about the terrorism that is currently happening?
Adil Siddiqi: I don’t think there is a unique definition of terrorism in the international level. Terrorism’s roots go back to economic problems. Its causes are local. For example, terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir has one aspect and terrorism in Afghanistan has another aspect. So everywhere it is defined differently.
Kabul Direct: So what do you say when innocent people are killed under the name of Islam?
Adil Siddiqi: Islam has never been for the killing innocent people. Islam is a religion of peace. We are not even allowed to tease our neighbor, who might be from any religion.
Adil Siddiqi: Hamid Karzai’s government has completely failed in Afghanistan.
Kabul Direct: But the constitution of Afghanistan is based on Islam. It is totally believed to be Islamic. In the third article even, it says that Islam is the source of law in Afghanistan, that nothing that is against Islam can be passed as law.
Adil Siddiqi: The United States army is attacking the Taliban. They are acting in self-defense. They don’t have any other way except to defend themselves. And they have the right of self defense.
Kabul direct: But you know that out of some thirty million Afghan citizens, the majority of them support the Afghan government. They see at as the legitimate Islamic government. They have never opposed it. So we have an Islamic constitution, an elected and legitimate government, a government that is supported by the majority of Afghan Muslims. So you do not think that the Taliban’s claims are not true? That the Taliban’s claims are against the will of Afghan population?
Adil Siddiqi: Well, this is the age of democracy. If a majority of people are positive, then they are right. The Taliban are defending their own thoughts.
Kabul Direct: So what do you think about the insurgency which is going on in the name of Jihad in Afghanistan? Is the Taliban’s jihad against the legitimate Afghan government acceptable according to your organization’s view of Jihad?
Adil Siddiqi: You know that the United States invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Now it is charging its way toward Pakistan. The Bush administration is using Pakistani territory to attack Afghanistan.
Kabul Direct: Well, it is the Taliban who are claiming to be waging Jihad in Afghanistan
Adil Siddiqi: The Taliban are not saying that. They are being compelled to say it and wage Jihad. This is not their basic idea.
Kabul Direct: What do you mean that this not their basic idea?
Kabul Direct: Has the Darul Uloom done anything to dissociate itself from the Darul Uloom madrassas in Pakistan – the ones that are being used by the insurgents?
Adil Siddiqi: We have no links with those seminaries in Pakistan. The Daral Uloom Deoband was opposed to the partition of India from the very beginning. Since Partition in 1947 we have never been in touch with the seminaries that were established there, the seminaries who claim to be following the Deobandi school of thought.
Kabul Direct: But it was reported that Mawlana Fazal Rahman, [the leader of the Pakistan’s hard-line Jamiat Ulema-e Islam] visited your institution recently. Did this not indicate that you have links to one of the leading extremist organizations in Pakistan?
Adil Siddiqi: When he visited India, he did visit the Darul Uloom Deoband, yes. There were no talks of politics, however. That is it.
Kabul Direct: If your relations with the Pakistani seminaries ended in 1947 with the partition of India, why did Mawlana Fazal visit your institution then?
Adil Siddiqi: Before the Partition, the seminaries in what are today’s Pakistan, Afghanistan, India and Bangladesh were in close touch. There was no difference between them. They were all united during that time. They had talks in those days, dialogues. This is the only reason leading scholars from Pakistan – like Mawlana Fazul Rahman – visit India’s Darul Deoband today.
What Mr. Siddiqi told the researchers in November 2008 contradicted what he had told a reporter in May of 2001, as the Darul Uloom was celebrating its 150th anniversary. The century-and-a-half celebrations must have been heightened by the fact that at the time, Deobandis known as the Taliban were in possession of their own state – the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, as they called it. The head of this state, Taliban leader Mullah Omar, in fact, gave the keynote address at the most important event of the commemoration festivities, the one in Peshawar, where so many Taliban leaders had learned their Deobandi interpretation of Islam.

This then was the context in which Mr. Siddiqi told a reporter months before the 9/11 attacks, that there was little distance between the Darul Uloom Deoband in India and the Taliban madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan. As he explained the relationship then: “We expect madrassas in Pakistan and Afghanistan to refer to us when they have any religious doubts.” (Globe and Mail, May 12, 2001). But that was a long time ago. Much has changed to warrant the new Deobandi position Mr. Siddiqi was now conveying.
 
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No matter how regressive the fatwas come out of Deoband, not once have they justified terrorism in the name of Islam or suicide bombings.

This is from the Darul-uloom Deoband and not the Pakistani so called Deobandi ulemas who use whatever means they can to empower themselves politically.

The terror in the subcontinent is thanks to using Islam and various sects as proxies and to gain political capital. This could be any sect or religion and the end result would be the same.

Katiyar demands ban on Darul Uloom Deoband:

Katiyar demands ban on Darul Uloom Deoband - Express India

Lucknow Bharatiya Janata Party national general secretary Vinay Katiyar demanded a ban on the Darul Uloom Deoband, claiming that a report of the Second Administrative Reforms Commission (ARC) had stated that terrorists interacted extensively with the leaders of the Islamic seminary.
“Either the Congress should seek unconditional apology for making such remarks against the Darul Uloom Deoband or ban it for its involvement in Islamic terrorism,” Katiyar told mediapersons in Lucknow on Thursday.

He added that the eighth report of the ARC, headed by senior Congress leader Veerapaa Moily, had stated in section 3.5.1 that “Mohammad Masood Azhar Alvi arrived in India with the task of working out a reconciliation between the cardres of the Harkat Mujahiddin and Harkat-ul Jehad Islami, whose parent organisations had merged to form the Harkat-ul-Ansar. His main objective was to liberate Kashmir from Indian rule and to establish Islamic rule in Kashmir. He also interacted extensively with the leading figures of the Deoband Ulema”.

Quoting other parts of the report, published in June 2008, Katiyar said: “In section 3.5.4, the report said it was important to take a look at the role played by SIMI in the promotion of Islamist extremism in India. It further said that SIMI’s former president C A M Basheer, originally from Kerala, was the first Indian Muslim known to have gone to Pakistan for arms training.”
 
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Roots of extremism lie in India:

The Pioneer :: Home : >> Roots of extremism lie in India

Roots of extremism lie in India
March 24, 2011 12:42:41 PM

Prafull Goradia

While the Government turns a blind eye to divisive forces, the Muslim League, AMU and Darul Uloom Deoband continue to sow seeds of religious extremism in India

The Indian Union Muslim League, led by Janab Panakkad Syed Mohammadali Shihab Thangal and Minister of State for Foreign Affairs E Ahamed, has called for India snapping ties with Israel for launching military offensive on Hamas-infested Gaza strip.

Hamas is a proxy of oil-rich Iran, which would like the nuclear installations of Israel to be destroyed. Hamas had been previously launching missiles towards these facilities and thus, Israeli’s attack is in self-defence.

It was inexplicable charity of then Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and his followers to permit the Muslim League, known for its extreme communal ideology and eventually led to the Partition in 1947, to continue to function in India. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has done better than Nehru by making the League a coalition partner and its only MP Foreign Minister. Uncannily, it is not the only communal and divisive force in India. The Aligarh Muslim University is another cradle of communalism and divisive ideology. Its teachers’ association has condemned what its secretary Qazi Ehsan Ali has described as Israeli savagery. Their resolution has reiterated that the Palestinians have every right to respectable life. As if Indians and Israelis have no such right.

Neither the Muslim League nor the AMU condemned the 26/11 Mumbai attacks. Each one of the targets and victims was either a guest or an Indian citizen. The Muslim League has not asked for snapping ties with Pakistan.

At the UN council meet Mr Ahamed not only excluded the fact that Nariman House was attacked but he also didn’t condole the deaths of Jews in the 26/11 Mumbai attacks. Whatever Mr Ahamed’s intentions were, the popular perception is that in his eyes killing of Jews was legitimate and, being such a small number in India, the incident would not matter. Was Mr Ahamed influenced by his sympathy for Hamas which has been fighting a war against Israel? He had at one stage expressed his anger over the assassination of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

Pakistan’s permanent envoy to the UN, Mr Abdullah Hussain Haroon, has openly blamed the clerics of Darul Uloom at Deoband for being the fountains of extremist mischief in the subcontinent. Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Maulana Masood Azhar is also of Indian origin. What Mr Haroon meant was that the seed of terrorism was in India which had also brought problems for Pakistan. If we introspect objectively we would know that much of the Islamist ideology is being inspired by institutions in India.

The prototype of the AMU was Anglo-Oriental College founded in 1877 by Sir Syed Ahmad Khan. The university was a hot-bed of separatist ideology providing a large number of 35 Muslim eminences who called on the Viceroy in 1906 at Shimla for reservations for the community in employment as well as the introduction of separate electorates which would ensure for Muslims parity in numbers with the majority Hindus. This visit to Shimla was followed up by the establishment of the Muslim League in December 1906 under the presidentship of the Nawab of Decca.

Darul Uloom, which began as a maktab or school, was chosen by its founder Maulana Muhammad Qasim as Deoband was away from British strongholds. There prevailed a persecution mania amongst the Muslims as a result of the mutiny of 1857. The environment appeared harsh to them with several ulema like Haji Imdad-Allah going away to Mecca for good. The course of study was strictly Islamic; no English or modern science was taught. The inspiration was obviously anti-British and continues to be anti-ruler to this day. The ulema of Deoband pride themselves on being ahl al-sunna wa’l jama a. In other words, they are utterly faithful to the practices of Prophet Mohammad who lived and preached 14 centuries ago.

The first graduate of the Darul Uloom in 1877 was Mahmood ul-Hasan who founded Samaratul Tarbiyat, a quasi-military body whose volunteers known as fidayeens were taught to prepare themselves for armed jihad. This then was the Gangotri of Taliban. The Darul Uloom at Deoband continues to propagate strict pro-tawhid, pro-ulema, anti-innovation, anti-polytheist, fundamentalist revivalism first initiated in Syria by Ibn Taymiyya, in Arabia by Al-Wahhab and in India by Shah Waliullah.

In contrast, AMU was founded in order to educate and prepare pro-British Muslims. Remember, Sir Syed’s policy was to befriend the British and thus counter the Hindu majority. After Partition, the same tradition has continued; an illustration being the founding of SIMI at the University in 1974. Yet, the Indian Government pays for the whole institution.

All in all, this situation proves that Mr Abdullah Hasan Haroon is right when he alleges that the ideological root of extremism lies in India and not in Pakistan.
 
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Jeans not appropriate, says Darul Uloom fatwa

Jeans not appropriate, says Darul Uloom fatwa - Rediff.com India News

Leading Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband has said that wearing jeans or other tight-fitting clothes is not appropriate as per religious beliefs.
In another controversial observation, it said a couple should first seek the opinion of a hakim or Unani practitioner before using contraceptives if needed for medical reasons.

In a posting on Tuesday, the seminary said wearing 'skin-tight' dresses is 'not lawful' and that clothes should be 'loose and simple'.

It gave its opinion on the issue when asked by a woman whether wearing 'skin tight' trousers and jeans were allowed as per religious beliefs.

"It is not lawful," the seminary said in its response that is posted on the 'fatwa online' section of its website. When asked if it was permitted to wear loose pajamas or jeans with a frock that stretches below the knees, accompanied by a head scarf, the scholars again replied in the negative.

"It, too, is not lawful. The dress should be loose and simple. And its style should resemble that of the dress of pious women," it said.

Another questioner had asked scholars at the seminary whether it was fine for him to use contraceptives, given the fact that his wife has been advised by doctors to avoid pregnancy due to thyroid-related complications. In response to the query posted on the website, Darul Uloom said consultation of a hakim was needed in the case.

"You should consult any religious Muslim doctor or hakim. If he advises you the same, you are allowed to adopt any temporary contraceptive measure," read the response to the query.

When asked about her opinion on the issue of contraceptive use, social activist Shabnam Hashmi said there is no logic in coming out with such statements.

"Why only health reasons, contraceptives should be used otherwise as well," she said.

"Nobody follows them (fatwas) anyway," she said, adding that such queries are often instigated by people who want to distract attention from real issues confronting the society and the minority community.

Gynaecologist Rehana Jabeen felt that such a statement coming from a leading religious seminary could be harmful for women.

"Anybody can understand that the advice of a doctor is crucial, but if you go by this fatwa, it is the advice of the hakims that is to be adhered to, which is obviously not a very logical thing to do," she said.
 
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i don't understand why these mullahs treat women lowest of lowest, all the restrictions are on women, women should not do this, women should not do that & blah blah blah. what are women in eyes of these ppl. just $ex objects, whose sole purpose is to deliver kids for men. these type of mullahs should be taught a lesson, so that next time they think 100 times before talking $hit abt women.
 
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Islamic Extremism in India:

International Institute for Strategic Studies Islamic extremism in India

Islamic extremism
These events had wide implications. In apparent revenge for the Babri mosque’s demolition, Mumbai mafia don Dawood Ibrahim planned bombings in Mumbai on 12 March 1993 that killed 257 people. Aided by criminal networks, terror organisations in Pakistan and Bangladesh – including Lashkar-e-Tayiba (LeT), the Jaysh-e-Mohammad and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami – began recruiting Indian Muslim extremists to help carry out terror attacks in India, for the first time outside the state of Jammu & Kashmir. On 11 July 2006, bombs on trains in Mumbai killed 187 people. The attack was blamed on the Pakistan-based LeT, but some radicalised Indian Muslim supporters provided significant help.

Meanwhile, divisions grew between India’s Muslims. Owing partly to being descendants of converts from Hinduism and partly to local mystical Sufi traditions, two-thirds of India’s predominantly Sunni Muslims follow the local Barelvi liberal school of thought; the others chiefly follow the conservative Deobandi school. Barelvi mosques seek to prevent stricter interpretations and practices of Islam, but this became increasingly difficult with the encroachment of fundamentalist Wahhabist ideology, helped by external funding. In February 2001, a government report expressed concern that establishing new madrassas (religious schools) with Saudi and Gulf funding would cause ‘systematic indoctrination’, even though less than 4% of Muslim children attended madrassas.

Muslims’ grievances were exacerbated by their low socio-economic status; the official Sachar Committee report of 2006 said this was only just above that of dalits (formerly known as ‘untouchables’) and tribal people. Muslims only account for 3% of the Indian Administrative Service, 1.8% of the Indian Foreign Service and 4% of the Indian police.

Several Indian Muslim organisations have conducted jihadi terror campaigns:
Al-Umma, formed in the southern state of Kerala, has carried out terror acts in southern India. Leader Syed Ahmed Basha was sentenced to life imprisonment in 2007. The organisation was banned and is now believed defunct.
The long-standing Deendar Anjuman (‘religious association’) Sufi sect became radicalised after the Babri mosque demolition. After a bombing campaign in 2000 (see table) it was banned.
The Students’ Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) was established in Uttar Pradesh. Becoming increasingly radicalised, it has repeatedly been banned over the past eight years. Its chief, Safdar Nagori, a 39-year-old mechanical- engineer-cum-journalist, was arrested in 2008. SIMI has had alleged links with the LeT. Before being banned, it was reported to have 400 full-time cadres and 20,000 members below the age of 30.
The Indian Mujahideen (IM) is the most active, claiming responsibility for several deadly bombings since 2006. After five near-simultaneous blasts at courts in Uttar Pradesh in November 2007, it sent an email to television stations protesting ‘violence against Muslims’, mentioning the destruction of the Babri mosque and the Gujarat riots. Following attacks in Jaipur in May 2008, it sent an email with a video of a bicycle used in a bombing. The message expressed anger against ‘infidel’ Hindus, said the group aimed to destroy India’s economic and social structure, and threatened Britons and Americans with suicide attacks.

IM operatives were thought to have provided logistical and operational support to the LeT in the 2006 Mumbai train bombings. Two IM members already in custody, Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Ahmed, have also been charged with carrying out recon-naissance for, and providing maps to, the LeT for the November 2008 Mumbai attacks. IM members are typically young, educated, technologically savvy and ideologically driven. Most have no police record. The reported leader is 36-year-old Abdul Subhan Usman Qureshi, a soft-ware engineer. Co-founder Mohammed Sadiq Israr Ahmed Sheikh, a mechanic, was arrested in September 2008.
‘IM operatives were thought to have helped the LeT in the 2006 Mumbai train bombings and last year’s Mumbai attacks. Members are typically young, educated, technologically savvy and ideologically driven’
Although Indian Muslims appear disinclined to support pan-Islamic jihadist ideology, al-Qaeda appears to be paying greater attention to India in its public statements. In February 2009, a senior al-Qaeda commander based in Afghanistan, Mustapha Abu al-Yazid, threatened India with ‘Mumbai-style’ terrorism if ever it attacked Pakistan. Although al-Qaeda has not carried out a direct terror attack in India, for some time there has been a close relationship between al-Qaeda and Kashmiri jihadist groups, most notably LeT, which has moved progressively away from a focus on Kashmir towards a more universal, al-Qaeda-style agenda. There is disquiet over al-Qaeda’s potential recruitment of Indian Muslims. There is also official concern about the radicalisation of Indian Muslims working or living abroad, including the large expatriate community in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The spread of violent Islamic extremism from Pakistan is also a significant worry for India.

Several terror attacks abroad have involved Indians. Kafeel Ahmed, an engineer from Bangalore, died attempting to car-bomb Glasgow Airport in June 2007. Roshan Jamal Khan, a Mumbai businessman, was arrested in Barcelona in January 2008 and charged with being a member of a terror group and possessing explosives. His trial is expected soon. In 2006, Dhiren Barot, an Indian-born Briton who converted from Hinduism to Islam, was convicted in the UK of conspiracy to commit murder and sentenced to 30 years in prison. Haroon Rashid Aswat, a Briton of Indian origin, was a confidant of radical Finsbury Park mosque cleric Abu Hamza, and is in jail awaiting extradition to the United States for trial.
 
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India : The New Face Of Terror

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Key Trends



New trends in terror emerge with arrest of suspects from Karnataka, terrorist camps in the state and spread of network targeting Mumbai and Goa.
Islamic Madrasas Association, Darul Uloom Deoband proscribes terrorism but also speaks against targeting youth from madrassa. Impact of the ban is however limited as Kashmiri terror groups dismiss it.
Uttar Pradesh claims arrest of terrorists involved in Rampur suicide blasts, investigations in progress.
Ban on SIMI extended for two more years. Likely to be challenged in the court. However activities and network indicates that ban is sustainable.
Need for building counter terror capabilities of the police in tourist spots such as Goa was underlined with indications of possible attacks during the busy winter tourist season.
Regional exclusivism by narrow chauvinists in Mumbai and popular anger against the Sixth Schedule and Subhash Gheishing in Darjeeling leads to bandhs, strikes and isolated cases of violence.


Trends in Terrorism



A number of new trends in terrorism were evident during the month across the country. Institutionalization of terrorism through formation of organizations such as the MITA in Bangalore, is perhaps the most dangerous. Though activists of the organization Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh emerged as new land marks on the terror vista. Apprehension of suspects involved in the Rampur suicide blast on 1 January 2008 was a pointer towards the same. Two youth were arrested in Karnataka allegedly commanders of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) in the southern region. Asadullah Abubakar and Mohammad Ghouse who had undergone training in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir were planning to engineer blasts in the state and were well equipped with timers, explosives and wire. Later two training camps were tracked by the police in Karnataka, one in Dharwad and another in Uttara Kannada district. A software engineer, Mohammad Yahya Kamukutty was arrested in Bangalore for suspected terror links. A B.Tech graduate in Electrical Engineering, he was employed with GE software and was known to be a key SIMI activist. The police also uncovered the MITA during these investigations which is reportedly having members from SIMI. [Based on report by N D Shiva Kumar, Times of India, 28 February]

Six terrorists allegedly involved in the suicide attack on the CRPF camp in Rampur arrested by Uttar Pradesh police included Sabauddin and Pakistani citizens Abu Jar and Abu Sama alias Adeel from Lucknow. While Pakistani Faheem Ahmad Ansari alias Abu Jarar, and Mohammad Sharif and Jang Bahadur alias Baba (both from Rampur) were arrested from Rampur. Faheem Ansari is reported to have carried out reconnaissance in Mumbai for a possible terror strike, though surprisingly the Mumbai police did not probe Faheem after initial interrogation. In Jammu and Kashmir, Mudasir Yusuf Bhatt a CRPF constable was arrested for acting as a carrier for the Hizbul Mujahideen.

Newer targets such as Goa have also emerged. Goa is a popular terrorist resort in India in the winters and represents what could be said as a free and uninhibited society, thus it would be an ideal target for any fundamentalist organization. Goa is also near the Karnataka jungles where terror camps have been located. Building counter terror capacities both operational and intelligence in such tourist spots is thus essential. As a start a higher level of security in the area to prevent any untoward terrorist incident is called for.

The Central Government retained the ban on the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) for another two years. The ban will continue till February 7, 2010. "The decision to re-impose the ban for two years has been taken in view of the fact that the group continues to indulge in unlawful activities," said the home ministry spokesperson Onkar Kedia. SIMI has been under ban since September 2001.

Major Bomb Blasts in India after 9/11 are as given below:-

Oct. 1, 2001 - Militants storm the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly complex, killing about 35 people.
Dec. 13 - 13 people, including five gunmen, killed in an attack on parliament in New Delhi.
Sept. 24, 2002 - Militants with guns and explosives attack the Akshardham temple in Gujarat, killing 31 people and wounding more than 80.
May 14 - Militants attack an army camp near Kashmir's winter capital, Jammu, killing more than 30, including wives and children of soldiers.
March 13, 2003 - A bomb attack on a commuter train in Mumbai kills 11 people.
Aug. 25 - Two almost simultaneous car bombs kill about 60 in Mumbai.
Aug. 15, 2004 - Bomb explodes in Assam, killing 16 people, mostly schoolchildren, and wounding dozens.
Oct. 29, 2005 - 66 people are killed when three blasts rip through markets in New Delhi.
March 7, 2006 - At least 15 people are killed and 60 wounded in three explosions in the pilgrimage city of Varanasi.
July 11 - 187 people are killed in seven bomb explosions at railway stations and on trains in Mumbai, blamed on Islamist militants.
Sept. 8 - At least 32 people are killed in a series of explosions, including one near a mosque, in Malegaon town, 260 km northeast of Mumbai.
Feb. 19, 2007 - Two bombs explode aboard a train bound from India to Pakistan, burning to death at least 66 passengers, most of them Pakistani citizens.
May 18, 2007 - A bomb explodes during Friday prayers at a historic mosque in Hyderabad, killing 11 worshippers. Police later shoot dead five people in clashes with hundreds of enraged Muslims who protest violently against the attack.
August 25, 2007 – Two bombs explode in Hyderabad, at Gokul Chat Bhandar and Lumbini Park killing 42 persons. (Based on reports in Reuters web site and confirmations)

Osama CDs in Patna – Bihar

CDs containing speeches by Osama Bin Laden in Arabic language with English sub titles were available in Patna , the capital of Bihar . The speeches urged Muslims to join the Jihad or holy war. CDs were also seen in rural pockets of Patna and adjoining Bhojpur. Two suspects in 11 July 2006 , Mumbai terror blasts are said to have been arrested from Madhubani in Bihar thereby indicating presence of fundamentalist elements in the state mired in poverty and underdevelopment.

The recovery of Osama Bin Laden’s CDs in Bihar is a serious issue which needs to be closely investigated. The influence of such propaganda in Bihar which has a sizeable Muslim population and is under developed can be considerable and adequate measures to check the spread are essential.
 
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This type of mentality encourages misogyny because of the inherent implication that women should not get educated. By this logic, you cannot have a woman scientist or a woman lawyer. Her main job is to stay at home and take care of the kids.

These mullahs are the reason Muslims are falling behind the rest of the world.

It is absolutely appropriate to blame the school. If they are silent and lend their name to the mullahs issuing these fatwas, that is an implicit endorsement of their views.
 
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Deobandism or wahabism wants muslims to live in era of 1500 years ago. Really foolish. Needs ammendment in their approach for religion.
 
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It's funny that people like EjazR constantly blame all their problems on Pakistan, when quite frankly; the root cause and main source of all the extremism seen in the region lies in India.
 
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It's funny that people like EjazR constantly blame all their problems on Pakistan, when quite frankly; the root cause and main source of all the extremism seen in the region lies in India.

The poison may be produced in India, but it was spread in our schools by our government using Saudi money.

It's obvious that these lunatics churn out their nonsense fatwas like clockwork, but reasonable people ignore them. It is our fault that we give attention to this poison.
 
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