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Democrats question $6 billion in Pakistan aid

That is not what an "ally" would do. If the relationship needs to be broken, let the Americans do it, and validate the opinions of everyone who has not trusted them since the end of the Afghan Jihad.

I would urge you to read between the lines, and note the views of officials (military and civilian) testifying in front of US legislators, who are involved in and familiar with Pakistan's efforts in the WoT.

Most of them defend Pakistan's efforts and its needs. Where you have criticism is from the legislators who are not involved or familiar with the nitty gritty of Pakistani efforts, and have to pander to the perceptions of the public. Also, this funding is associated with the Musharraf era, and we know how vilified he was in the US, for various reasons, so this is in a way continued criticism from then.

I am not suggesting the criticism is valid, but that US politicians have to pander to their constituencies just like Pakistani politicians do.


I agree an ally would not do such a thing but only under normal circumstances. In our case it seems the very much opposite. Yes i do agree there are people who stand up and defend pakistan and the efforts done by pakistan for WOT, however the majority of legislators are of an opinion that pakistan is just making a fool out of them, misusing the money instead of being spent on COIN training, it is being used to buy military hardware to counter rival india and many other things like over billing etc. The point is that we have almost tried everything that we possibly could do to convinence the americans that we are indeed trying our very best to route out terrorism and indeed we have, let alone the number of AQ that we captured and handed over to the americans and the number of soldiers that we lost, are more then any of the US and NATO combined have had. However they do not seem to get it, the only option i would argue on is to now have a different approach, I agree with president musharraf when he once said, that if US wants to cut aid fine with us but US better find itself another ally. It is about time we show our importance and the fact that who needs whom the most.
 
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In our case it seems the very much opposite. Yes i do agree there are people who stand up and defend pakistan and the efforts done by pakistan for WOT, however the majority of legislators are of an opinion that pakistan is just making a fool out of them, misusing the money instead of being spent on COIN training, it is being used to buy military hardware to counter rival india and many other things like over billing etc. .

Pentagon rejects Pakistan monetary aid requests

Pentagon rejects Pakistan monetary aid requests

Washington DC News.Net
Thursday 8th May, 2008 (ANI)

Washington, May 8 : Following reports that Islamabad had wasted US funding and allowed Al Qaeda to rebuild a haven in its western tribal regions, the Pentagon has rejected or deferred millions of dollars in military aid requests from Pakistan.

This could mark a sudden change in US policy towards Pakistan, which for years has spent American military aid without having to show results in the fight against Al Qaeda and other militant groups, the Daily Times quoted a Los Angeles Times report as saying.

In February, the US Defence Department had turned down or delayed an aid of more than 81 million dollars requested by Pakistan, according to a report issued on Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the investigative arm of Congress.

The rejection represents a small portion of the nearly one billion dollars a year Pakistan has received through a programme called Coalition Support Funds, launched after 9/11.

GAO says the US has sent more than 5.5 billion dollars to Pakistan under the programme, making it the largest portion of the 10.8 billion dollars in US aid Islamabad has received since 2002. The study was the second by the GAO in a month to criticise US policy in Pakistan.

The US Defence Department defended the programme as a "critical tool" to deter terrorists in the region, in its response.
 
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Always:

Could you post some of your own comments to indicate what exactly you are getting at.

As it is, your post (or collection of other posts) above is pretty obtuse.
 
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Obama is the same guy who threatened to bomb Mecca and Pakistan last year. :crazy:

I thought that was a hoax, many a folk here told me so! Any link on mim suggesting to bombing Mecca....................I know he suggested something about entering Pakistan but that has done by too many congressmen to be taken seriously. Even Bush in 2006 with Wolf Blitzer told he would enter Pakistan on the basis of credible intellignece.
 
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Democrats question $6 billion in Pakistan aid

By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer
Tue May 6, 2008

WASHINGTON - Democrats are sharply questioning a U.S. aid program that has reimbursed Pakistan's military $6 billion since 2001 for anti-terrorism operations along its Afghanistan border, contending the program has grown too costly.

"The Bush administration has basically been shoveling taxpayer money to Pakistan, no questions asked, crossing its fingers and hoping that our al-Qaida problem goes away," said Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the U.S. has provided Pakistan some $10.8 billion in aid. Most of the money — $5.6 billion — has gone toward reimbursing Pakistan's military for combat operations, particularly into unpoliced tribal areas along the Afghan border. About $1.5 billion has paid for military training and equipment, while the rest of the money is devoted to economic aid and other priorities, such as legal reform and local police training.

Democrats say the $5.6 billion in "coalition support funds" was initially intended as a short-term solution to getting Pakistan to aid U.S. anti-terrorist efforts. But since the program's inception, it has become nearly impossible to determine if the money is being spent wisely.

"The more I learn about this program, the more convinced I become that (it is) the wrong approach," said Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform national security and foreign affairs subcommittee.

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said future aid dollars must include "strict guarantees" that the money is being used for anti-terrorism and is making Americans safer.

"They lack a plan, they seem to lack oversight and they do not seem very concerned about it," said Harkin of the Bush administration.

The Government Accountability Office is expected to release this summer the results of its investigation into the program. In a preliminary report released Tuesday, the GAO reiterated earlier findings that Pakistan has been unable to defeat terrorists inside its borders despite the influx of U.S. cash. The GAO found that the Pakistani security forces aren't structured to target an insurgency and face equipment and training deficiencies.

The Defense Department defended the program to the GAO as a "critical tool" to deter terrorists in the region. For example, Pakistan recently was able to buy 26 helicopters with the help of U.S. aid. The helicopters provided a direct contribution to air assault and other anti-terrorism efforts along the border, the department said in response to the report.

Also on Tuesday, a top counterterrorism official told the Senate Intelligence Committee that al-Qaida leaders continue to hatch new terrorist plots from their sanctuary on Pakistan's western frontier.

"We have clearly not succeeded in stopping core al-Qaida plotting," said acting National Counterterrorism Center Director Michael Leiter. "We have not disrupted the senior leadership that exists in (Pakistan's tribal areas) or their promulgating messages that successfully gain them more recruits."

Leiter said the U.S. intelligence agencies have done well in disrupting planned terrorist attacks before they can be carried out, however.

Leiter also said he wished he had more resources dedicated to identifying and addressing future threats and potential terrorist havens, rather than focusing so much of his work force on the current threat.

Leiter has headed the NCTC as acting director for six months. He needs Senate confirmation to hold the job officially. The NCTC was created in 2004 to analyze and knit together analysis from more than a dozen U.S. intelligence agencies.

Democrats question $6 billion in Pakistan aid - Yahoo! News

i think its more of a criticism of the bush admn than pakistan in this case, which is expected from the dems.

pakistan will always be criticised - aid or no aid because we have done a lousy PR job with repect to our efforts on WoT. Musharraf alone cant do it all by himself.
 
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When did he threaten to bomb Mecca Neo?

His statement on Pakistan was taken out of context as well - he placed several qualifiers in it - "IF there is actionable intelligence on high value AQ leaders in FATA, AND IF the Pakistani government REFUSES to take action, THEN he would authorize unilateral action against those targets."


Even Bush in 2006 with Wolf Blitzer suggested that on the bassis of "credible" intellegince, he would enter Pakistan to capture top Al-Qaeeda leaders.

These types of remarks are misquoted even by Democrats against McCain when he suggested that it would be fine for him to stay in Iraq even if it took 100 years. His real remarks were that the role in Iraq for the 100 years would be like South Korea, Japan................Dems misquoted and suggested he is willing to sacrifice Americans in Iraq for 100 years.
 
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None of them are good for Pakistan. When it benefits the US they will all attack Pakistan.

The new government talks big, they've denied to pay us our Coalition Support funds yesterday. I like to see this government deny them our support to the coalition then. At least under Musharraf we got paid for being in the WoT. Now we're fighting America's war for free.
 
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None of them are good for Pakistan. When it benefits the US they will all attack Pakistan.

The new government talks big, they've denied to pay us our Coalition Support funds yesterday. I like to see this government deny them our support to the coalition then. At least under Musharraf we got paid for being in the WoT. Now we're fighting America's war for free.

Amen Brother!
 
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Dont worry, something tells me that its still our military boys who call the shots in this case. The civilians are too busy with nonsense stuff that will not benefit our situation at the world stage or in anything important for that matter(as usual).
 
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