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Defenders of Karachi-Unreported World on Channel 4

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Fascinating documentary on Channel 4 charting the life of 2 individuals at the frontline of Karachi's fight against sectarian and gang related violence.


The sheer courage and dedication shown by those featured, despite the hazardous nature of their jobs and lack of reward/recognition, is laudable. However, I found the rampant lawlessness of the place, which is reminiscent of Cuidad Juarez or Mogadishu, shocking..Mumbai must feel like leafy Surrey in comparison:what:
 
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The UPloader has not made this video available in your country :disagree:

I really want to see this documentary any other link ?
 
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Fascinating documentary on Channel 4 charting the life of 2 individuals at the frontline of Karachi's fight against sectarian and gang related violence.


The sheer courage and dedication shown by those featured, despite the hazardous nature of their jobs and lack of reward/recognition, is laudable. However, I found the rampant lawlessness of the place, which is reminiscent of Cuidad Juarez or Mogadishu, shocking..Mumbai must feel like leafy Surrey in comparison:what:

Hardly in a city of nearly 20 million people.
 
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^^It worked flawlessly :yahoo:

After watching it i am convinced pakistan needs to enforce gun control....the scale of violence is shocking :tdown:.
 
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Pakistan need to kick out corrupt rulers and start restoring its economy to the position where P.Musharraf left.
 
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More people die of gun violence in karachi than due to terrorism in whole of pakistan. Surely you need to do more than fighting corruption.
 
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With passage of time , the rich class in Pakistan continues to get police escorts, protection and 13,000-20,000 officers guarding VIP politicians, the people well they are not that important :P that is what is happening in major cities in Pakistan.
 
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All needed is gun controls in Pakistan.., as a start, stop selling automatic or semi automatic weapons first..
 
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Primary purpose of above Video is services of "EDHI-foundation" & policemen than Karachi's violence...
 
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All needed is gun controls in Pakistan.., as a start, stop selling automatic or semi automatic weapons first..

There is strict monitoring over gun sales and the licenses are definitely not easy to gain. The problem is smuggled weapons which make their way into Pakistan. Many of the smugglers were caught, but the lure of millions of consumers is too much to resist for these dealers.

Another problem is the hiring of individuals by political groups for protection who aren't exactly good samaritans and who also get licenses through their corrupt people. Then the same people realize their own strength and go on a rampage against their competition.
 
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Primary purpose of above Video is services of "EDHI-foundation" & policemen than Karachi's violence...

That is the narrative of the story. This is not a news item but a documentary on karachi's violence. They have to show both violence and those who are fighting against it. Also the story is more palatable and less offensive if you make some pakistanis hero in the same story.
 
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yes, pakistan is bad, india is good!!! (just to satisfy the egoes of temujin) :tup:
 
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^^It worked flawlessly :yahoo:

After watching it i am convinced pakistan needs to enforce gun control....the scale of violence is shocking :tdown:.

Agreed, the guns should be banned in large densely populated areas, especially Karachi but we must also take care of those self proclaimed rulers of Karachi who think its their right to kick all other ethnic groups out and keep the city for themselves!

BTW, there are a lot of Shiah's, Sunni's, Pashtuns, Punjabis, and Kashmiris in Lahore (the cultural capital of Pakistan) but you don't see ethnic or sectarian violence there!
 
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^^It worked flawlessly :yahoo:

After watching it i am convinced pakistan needs to enforce gun control....the scale of violence is shocking :tdown:.

Glad it worked:thank_you2:

I totally agree that the scale of violence is staggering and at a different level to that witnessed in places like Mumbai. The closest analogy would be the rampant lawlessness observed in parts of Latin America, Mexico or the favelas of Rio etc. Even in those communities, one would be hard pressed to find rival gangs going at each other with machine guns and rocket launchers..

At the risk of going off topic, what I find interesting is the fact that the piece raises fundamental questions about Pakistani society’s attitude towards violence and the different trajectories India and Pakistan have followed in relation to violent crime, particularly gun crime, since independence. I would pin much of the blame in Pakistan’s case on its long history of military rule leading to the establishment of a de facto security state since the 60s, which has consequently led to a veneration of gun culture (as illustrated by a senior member of this forum who describes her location as the 'land of guns') and normalisation of casual violence in that society.

I recognise that there may be significant ethnic and cultural factors that influence perceptions about the use and availability of guns in Pakistani society but it is clear that the` top down message’ about power and influence being determined by might and violence, frequently reinforced through religious and racist rhetoric (Pakistanis being a martial ‘race’ etc), has found resonance with whole sections of society (for instance, the Pakistani establishment’s obsession with conventional and nuclear parity with India, a sentiment that by all accounts is shared by the general population ).

It is tempting to view Karachi with its population fractured along ethnic lines as a microcosm of Pakistan itself, which illustrates the inherent difficulties of creating a nation by clubbing together ethnic entities that have little in common apart from a shared belief system. I think Islam as a shared identity only work for these disparate groups in the presence of a common enemy, for instance the ‘infidel’ in undivided India. The sense of common cause was lost to a large extent once the state of Pakistan was created, which consequently gave rise to a sense of rootlessness and ‘anomie’ among the population and eventually led to the rise of violence and interethnic conflict of the sort witnessed in Karachi today. (the nation briefly rediscovered its raison d’ etre, that of being the bulwark of Islam against the infidel, during the Afghan War but it sadly only lasted until the final Russki pulled out)

However, I have to admit that despite the challenges confronting it, Pakistani society has somehow managed to plod along which I believe, in addition to the strong hand of the army also owes much to an inner resilience, a lot of it derived from the strong need for self validation through existing as a worthy adversary to India. I hope that the Pakistani establishment will finally see sense and channel this inner strength of the Pakistani people more constructively in the future in order to restore relations with India, which will ultimately benefit people in both countries.
 
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