Defence ties with India ‘a necessity, not an option’ :: ISRAEL

[CriticalThinker02]

Strengthening of defence collaborations between India and Israel have brought the two countries closer, according to Daniel Carmon, Israel’s Ambassador to India. With an estimated $10 billion spend over the past decade, India is the biggest buyer of Israel’s defence products.

Carmon was addressing a gathering at the Defence ‘Make in India’ Summit in Delhi at the Sam Manekshaw Center.

Speaking on relations with India, Carmon said, “The partnership with India is not just ‘another option’, it is almost a necessity today.” He went on to add, “In times when defence forces modify operations and recalibrate their way forward; in times when many militaries are becoming smaller by size but stronger by force, it is important to be innovative. It is crucial to optimise our effort...which brings down production costs and developments costs. And it leaves you with more advanced capabilities than what you could have had by going alone.”


Make in India ::

Stating that Israel has been following the Indian government’s initiative of ‘Make in India’, Carmon said Israel’s Defence Minister was in India last year and held extensive talks on the matter.

The Ambassador went on to add, “We have proven more than once in the past that we are open for the concept of transfer of advanced high technology and joint development. Both our governments as well as the Israeli companies that are implementing the projects, are ready to engage in this venture.”

Behind the US, Russia and France, Israel is the fourth largest country to have exported defence equipment to India.

In 2011-12, India imported defence equipment worth ₹7,845.62 crore from the US, according to responses given to a Lok Sabha question.

This shot up to ₹11,327.57 crore in 2012-13, and to ₹13,441.99 crore in 2013-14. The US tops the chart in terms of defence equipment imported by major countries. On the other hand, India imported defence equipment worth ₹1,296.21 crore from Israel in 2011-12. This slipped to ₹774.54 crore in 2012-13, and went up slightly to ₹1,234.65 crore in 2013-14.


Several collaborations ::

There have been several defence collaborations between the two nations. Recently, Secunderabad-based Premier Explosives signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) to explore potential business opportunities. IAI, Israel’s largest aerospace and defence firm, specialises in developing and manufacturing advanced systems for air, space, sea, land, cyber and homeland security. IAI also designs and manufactures business jets and aero structures.

The agreement is set to leverage India’s operation of the Barak-8 medium-range self-propelled surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, which was designed by IAI in collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

At the end of last year, the Indian Navy said it had a much-needed missile defence shield for its frontline warships, following successful testing of an Indo-Israeli system. The Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LRSAM), called the Barak NG, had undergone a series of tests from INS Kolkata.

The Barak NGs were fired at ‘expendable aerial targets’, also known as remotely piloted unmanned rockets, in a repeat of the tests that were carried out earlier from an Israeli warship in the Mediterranean Sea in the presence of Indian military scientists.


Israeli drones ::

In September 2015, the Centre also approved the purchase of 10 Israeli-made armed Heron drones for around $400 million. The drones will be operated by the Indian Air Force, and would join its fleet of reconnaissance drones. The Indian Air Force also has a fleet of Harpy unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel, which are primarily used to destroy enemy radar positions.

As Carmon pointed out in his address, there were several examples of successful joints initiatives between Israel and India in the fields of defence. “LRSAM/Barak 8 is only one of them. We should strive to develop even further this unique partnership in defence.”

He went on to add that Israel is “willing to create more platforms of joint research and development to pinpoint shared challenges,...and even manufacture them together. Both sides have a lot to gain from this collaboration.”

Defence News, Defence ties with India ‘a necessity, not an option’ :: ISRAEL

 

[Tiger Genie]

good. Israel US Japan and India are the necessary solid quad that can lead the world to peace and harmony

 

[CriticalThinker02]

good. Israel US Japan and India are the necessary solid quad that can lead the world to peace and harmony

United States have been at war 222 out of 239 years of her existence and not to mention the apartheid that exists within Israel while also not forgetting about India who kills her minorities just because they consumed beef or throws her weight around against smaller nations within her region and you think these will be the nations that will bring peace and harmony to the world really?

I think it is highly unlikely.

 

[Tiger Genie]

United States have been at war 222 out of 239 years of her existence and not to mention the apartheid that exists within Israel while also not forgetting about India who kills her minorities just because they consumed beef or throws her weight around against smaller nations within her region and you think these will be the nations that will bring peace and harmony to the world really?

I think it is highly unlikely.

USA has been the defacto policeman for the world much of its existence; especially as a Pakistani you should be thanking them since without them you would be under russian communism by now.

India is the one of the handful of countries in the world where hundreds of muslims (or anyother minority) doesn't get killed on a monthly basis. If you don't realize that yourself all you have to do is read the news from Pakistan and count what happens there. Especially given Pakistan's genocidal attitude towards Hindu minority there, nobody in your country so much can utter a squeak on the subject!

 

[CriticalThinker02]

USA has been the defacto policeman for the world much of its existence; especially as a Pakistani you should be thanking them since without them you would be under russian communism by now.

India is the one of the handful of countries in the world where hundreds of muslims (or anyother minority) doesn't get killed on a monthly basis. If you don't realize that yourself all you have to do is read the news from Pakistan and count what happens there. Especially given Pakistan's genocidal attitude towards Hindu minority there, nobody in your country so much can utter a squeak on the subject!

United States themselves even after a decade of war within Afghanistan failed so yeah I think even without their help Russians would still have been defeated, regardless still a 93% ratio of war and only a 7% ratio of peace since her independence doesn't give a very attractive resume of bringing peace and harmony to the world.

lol there are two Hindu families within my very own neighborhood that live together with us and sometimes gives us food and sweets during Diwali and other festivals but yeah keep telling yourself that we commit genocide of Hindu minorities anyways it wasn't me but you who were boasting of India being the nation of bringing peace and harmony to the world when you have clear examples of oppressing minorities and having aggressive policies toward smaller nations like Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan and Sri Lanka, these examples doesn't qualify or gives hopeful signs of India bringing pacifism to the world you know.

 

[Tiger Genie]

United States themselves even after a decade of war within Afghanistan failed so yeah I think even without their help Russians would still have been defeated, regardless still a 93% ratio of war and only a 7% ratio of peace since her independence doesn't give a very attractive resume of bringing peace and harmony to the world.

lol there are two Hindu families within my very own neighborhood that live together with us and sometimes gives us food and sweets during Diwali and other festivals but yeah keep telling yourself that we commit genocide of Hindu minorities anyways it wasn't me but you who were boasting of India being the nation of bringing peace and harmony to the world when you have clear examples of oppressing minorities and having aggressive policies toward smaller nations like Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan and Sri Lanka, these examples doesn't qualify or gives hopeful signs of India bringing pacifism to the world you know.

what you have written is a typical example of baseless conclusions. USSR is gone, osama bin laden was blown up (in spite of Pakistani military giving him refuge) and you say USA failed? What failed is USSR, Osama bin laden and Pakistani military. Pakistan continues to lose because they are dual minded about terrorism. OTOH they are using their military to bomb their own country (over a year now!) trying to get rid of terrorists; at the same time their pet terrorists are right there in big cities and mosques and madrassa (eg the Lal masjid guy, Lakhvi, Hafees Saeed et al) raising funds and recruiting Pakistani kids for the next generation of terrorists! Talk about national studpidity! What makes it even worse is that some of you people think talking this truth is some how unpatriotic and thus implicitly end up supporting the lunatic fringe which in turn leads to even more Pakistani kids getting mentally disturbed, radicalized and joining either your domestic terrorists or the international brand viz ISIS! wake up Pakistanis!

As to Pakistan's treatment of minorities, you seem very ill qualified to talk about it. Because you happen to live next to a couple of them does not change what Pakistan has done to them. You should all be be very ashamed for those sins

 

[dadeechi]

good. Israel US Japan and India are the necessary solid quad that can lead the world to peace and harmony

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Strengthening of defence collaborations between India and Israel have brought the two countries closer, according to Daniel Carmon, Israel’s Ambassador to India. With an estimated $10 billion spend over the past decade, India is the biggest buyer of Israel’s defence products.

Carmon was addressing a gathering at the Defence ‘Make in India’ Summit in Delhi at the Sam Manekshaw Center.

Speaking on relations with India, Carmon said, “The partnership with India is not just ‘another option’, it is almost a necessity today.” He went on to add, “In times when defence forces modify operations and recalibrate their way forward; in times when many militaries are becoming smaller by size but stronger by force, it is important to be innovative. It is crucial to optimise our effort...which brings down production costs and developments costs. And it leaves you with more advanced capabilities than what you could have had by going alone.”


Make in India ::

Stating that Israel has been following the Indian government’s initiative of ‘Make in India’, Carmon said Israel’s Defence Minister was in India last year and held extensive talks on the matter.

The Ambassador went on to add, “We have proven more than once in the past that we are open for the concept of transfer of advanced high technology and joint development. Both our governments as well as the Israeli companies that are implementing the projects, are ready to engage in this venture.”

Behind the US, Russia and France, Israel is the fourth largest country to have exported defence equipment to India.

In 2011-12, India imported defence equipment worth ₹7,845.62 crore from the US, according to responses given to a Lok Sabha question.

This shot up to ₹11,327.57 crore in 2012-13, and to ₹13,441.99 crore in 2013-14. The US tops the chart in terms of defence equipment imported by major countries. On the other hand, India imported defence equipment worth ₹1,296.21 crore from Israel in 2011-12. This slipped to ₹774.54 crore in 2012-13, and went up slightly to ₹1,234.65 crore in 2013-14.


Several collaborations ::

There have been several defence collaborations between the two nations. Recently, Secunderabad-based Premier Explosives signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) to explore potential business opportunities. IAI, Israel’s largest aerospace and defence firm, specialises in developing and manufacturing advanced systems for air, space, sea, land, cyber and homeland security. IAI also designs and manufactures business jets and aero structures.

The agreement is set to leverage India’s operation of the Barak-8 medium-range self-propelled surface-to-air missile (SAM) system, which was designed by IAI in collaboration with the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

At the end of last year, the Indian Navy said it had a much-needed missile defence shield for its frontline warships, following successful testing of an Indo-Israeli system. The Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LRSAM), called the Barak NG, had undergone a series of tests from INS Kolkata.

The Barak NGs were fired at ‘expendable aerial targets’, also known as remotely piloted unmanned rockets, in a repeat of the tests that were carried out earlier from an Israeli warship in the Mediterranean Sea in the presence of Indian military scientists.


Israeli drones ::

In September 2015, the Centre also approved the purchase of 10 Israeli-made armed Heron drones for around $400 million. The drones will be operated by the Indian Air Force, and would join its fleet of reconnaissance drones. The Indian Air Force also has a fleet of Harpy unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel, which are primarily used to destroy enemy radar positions.

As Carmon pointed out in his address, there were several examples of successful joints initiatives between Israel and India in the fields of defence. “LRSAM/Barak 8 is only one of them. We should strive to develop even further this unique partnership in defence.”

He went on to add that Israel is “willing to create more platforms of joint research and development to pinpoint shared challenges,...and even manufacture them together. Both sides have a lot to gain from this collaboration.”

Defence News, Defence ties with India ‘a necessity, not an option’ :: ISRAEL

With Russian cooperation out of the window, India now needs support from US & Israel than ever.

 

[Pomegranate]

With Russian cooperation out of the window, India now needs support from US & Israel than ever

and russia will than support pakistan ... and good nexus will be built PAKISTAN , CHINA , RUSSIA that is just suberb ..while america and israel is too far from india to rescue it .......... pakistan has china on its side..

 

[dadeechi]

and russia will than support pakistan ... and good nexus will be built PAKISTAN , CHINA , RUSSIA that is just suberb ..while america and israel is too far from india to rescue it .......... pakistan has china on its side..

Russia-China-Pakistan alliance is a given. There is nothing that India can do about it.

India has already reconciled to that fact and hence is hedging it's bets by moving towards the West.

 

[silent poison]

Underestimating India and Russia Relation and overestimating Pakistan And Russia relations is a main reason behind the above theories .

Israel is always been our friend it will always will be .. Thanks for Lr-Sam

and russia will than support pakistan ... and good nexus will be built PAKISTAN , CHINA , RUSSIA that is just suberb ..while america and israel is too far from india to rescue it .......... pakistan has china on its side..

Russia Pakistan relationship is new born ... Provided the kind of Help China provided to Pakistan in past wars ( History ) says much about whose side China is !!

About Russia supporting Pakistan i even doubt if u get spares for ur Jf-17 engine in any war with India .

Rest Israel help in Kargil war is well known . And now USA if provide EMALS tech well it will be way too good for our relationship to be questioned by anyone .

 

[CriticalThinker02]

what you have written is a typical example of baseless conclusions. USSR is gone, osama bin laden was blown up (in spite of Pakistani military giving him refuge) and you say USA failed? What failed is USSR, Osama bin laden and Pakistani military. Pakistan continues to lose because they are dual minded about terrorism. OTOH they are using their military to bomb their own country (over a year now!) trying to get rid of terrorists; at the same time their pet terrorists are right there in big cities and mosques and madrassa (eg the Lal masjid guy, Lakhvi, Hafees Saeed et al) raising funds and recruiting Pakistani kids for the next generation of terrorists! Talk about national studpidity! What makes it even worse is that some of you people think talking this truth is some how unpatriotic and thus implicitly end up supporting the lunatic fringe which in turn leads to even more Pakistani kids getting mentally disturbed, radicalized and joining either your domestic terrorists or the international brand viz ISIS! wake up Pakistanis!

As to Pakistan's treatment of minorities, you seem very ill qualified to talk about it. Because you happen to live next to a couple of them does not change what Pakistan has done to them. You should all be be very ashamed for those sins

It's not a baseless conclusion, USSR is gone yes but so will the monopoly and oppression of the United States, again I say policing around the world and waging war year after years 93% of the time doesn't equate that nation in bringing peace and harmony in the world.

Btw why are you attacking Pakistan with your butt hurt response, did I say Pakistan will bring peace and harmony to the world? Did I no now you pointed out that lal masjid guy, has he done any terrorist attacks within Pakistan or abroad? Just having different opinions doesn't make you a terrorist unless if you are involved in terror activities or maybe you believe that just by being a Muslim is warrant enough to be considered a terrorist?, you mentioned Hafees Saeed really wasn't he taken into Protective custody and his offices sealed by Pakistani authorities yet when asked for a joint investigation with India for the pathankot incident your country refused WHY and what are you hiding? Just by throwing names and having orgasmic fantasies might work in your Bollywood media but it doesn't in the real world.

More than 3,400 of India's funded TTP terrorist have been eliminated during the operation Zarb e Azb and you think we won't be able to eliminate a few JeM, the real question is why didn't India agreed on cooperating with Pakistan when you were so ebullient when they were arrested just a few weeks before, why the sudden change?.

Again don't be a butthurt and bring Pakistan in the discussion when I never even mentioned us bringing peace and harmony to the world but you did with your innocent India so lets talk about India's credentials, lets talk about your guy Ajit Doval who openly admitted to the world of giving funds to the TTP to kill children in Pakistan, or killing Minorities just because of consuming beef, oppression and systematic genocide of Kashmirs Muslims or being the number one rape capital of the world or having aggressive foreign policies and oppressing smaller states within your region, lets also talk about terrorist organisation being safeguarded by Indian authorities the likes of Shiv Sena and Hindutva extremist ideologies also lets not forget about a terrorist responsible for killing innocents who is elected as your PM today.

Does these examples qualify India in bringing Pacifism to the world?, answer the question don't ignore it.

 

[SrNair]

and russia will than support pakistan ... and good nexus will be built PAKISTAN , CHINA , RUSSIA that is just suberb ..while america and israel is too far from india to rescue it .......... pakistan has china on its side..

Russia is still remains as our close friend .
India dont need others for our support .
We can block Pakistan with our mere diplomatic movements .China ,thhe last thing they want is a conflict with India .

Dont try to equate us with Pakistan .An Indians perspective and confidence about his/her nation is very different than a Pakistani's.

Russia-China-Pakistan alliance is a given. There is nothing that India can do about it.

India has already reconciled to that fact and hence is hedging it's bets by moving towards the West.

In your dreams .
We knows our relation with Italy .
So cut that BS .We will create our relation only for our own interest .And we are a nuclear power and dont need anyones military support .

It's not a baseless conclusion, USSR is gone yes but so will the monopoly and oppression of the United States, again I say policing around the world and waging war year after years 93% of the time doesn't equate that nation in bringing peace and harmony in the world.

Btw why are you attacking Pakistan with your butt hurt response, did I say Pakistan will bring peace and harmony to the world? Did I no now you pointed out that lal masjid guy, has he done any terrorist attacks within Pakistan or abroad? Just having different opinions doesn't make you a terrorist unless if you are involved in terror activities or maybe you believe that just by being a Muslim is warrant enough to be considered a terrorist?, you mentioned Hafees Saeed really wasn't he taken into Protective custody and his offices sealed by Pakistani authorities yet when asked for a joint investigation with India for the pathankot incident your country refused WHY and what are you hiding? Just by throwing names and having orgasmic fantasies might work in your Bollywood media but it doesn't in the real world.

More than 3,400 of India's funded TTP terrorist have been eliminated during the operation Zarb e Azb and you think we won't be able to eliminate a few JeM, the real question is why didn't India agreed on cooperating with Pakistan when you were so ebullient when they were arrested just a few weeks before, why the sudden change?.

Again don't be a butthurt and bring Pakistan in the discussion when I never even mentioned us bringing peace and harmony to the world but you did with your innocent India so lets talk about India's credentials, lets talk about your guy Ajit Doval who openly admitted to the world of giving funds to the TTP to kill children in Pakistan, or killing Minorities just because of consuming beef, oppression and systematic genocide of Kashmirs Muslims or being the number one rape capital of the world or having aggressive foreign policies and oppressing smaller states within your region, lets also talk about terrorist organisation being safeguarded by Indian authorities the likes of Shiv Sena and Hindutva extremist ideologies also lets not forget about a terrorist responsible for killing innocents who is elected as your PM today.

Does these examples qualify India in bringing Pacifism to the world?, answer the question don't ignore it.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Israel and India both need each other.. its not only defence but much much more than that.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

I am just laughing at the foolishness. India funded TTP As if Pakistanis does not have enough radicalised brainwashed idiots at home. Add to that, now even girls are radicalised, but alas no 72 virgins for them.

TTP, funded by Opium in Afghanistan, organised by Pakistan, groundsoldiers by Pakistanis, people wearing suicide blast by Pakistanis, but India is the reason .

Its like saying Pakistani mens do not know to bite, even if food is kept inside their mouths.

 

[Tiger Genie]

It's not a baseless conclusion, USSR is gone yes but so will the monopoly and oppression of the United States, again I say policing around the world and waging war year after years 93% of the time doesn't equate that nation in bringing peace and harmony in the world.

Btw why are you attacking Pakistan with your butt hurt response, did I say Pakistan will bring peace and harmony to the world? Did I no now you pointed out that lal masjid guy, has he done any terrorist attacks within Pakistan or abroad? Just having different opinions doesn't make you a terrorist unless if you are involved in terror activities or maybe you believe that just by being a Muslim is warrant enough to be considered a terrorist?, you mentioned Hafees Saeed really wasn't he taken into Protective custody and his offices sealed by Pakistani authorities yet when asked for a joint investigation with India for the pathankot incident your country refused WHY and what are you hiding? Just by throwing names and having orgasmic fantasies might work in your Bollywood media but it doesn't in the real world.

More than 3,400 of India's funded TTP terrorist have been eliminated during the operation Zarb e Azb and you think we won't be able to eliminate a few JeM, the real question is why didn't India agreed on cooperating with Pakistan when you were so ebullient when they were arrested just a few weeks before, why the sudden change?.

Again don't be a butthurt and bring Pakistan in the discussion when I never even mentioned us bringing peace and harmony to the world but you did with your innocent India so lets talk about India's credentials, lets talk about your guy Ajit Doval who openly admitted to the world of giving funds to the TTP to kill children in Pakistan, or killing Minorities just because of consuming beef, oppression and systematic genocide of Kashmirs Muslims or being the number one rape capital of the world or having aggressive foreign policies and oppressing smaller states within your region, lets also talk about terrorist organisation being safeguarded by Indian authorities the likes of Shiv Sena and Hindutva extremist ideologies also lets not forget about a terrorist responsible for killing innocents who is elected as your PM today.

Does these examples qualify India in bringing Pacifism to the world?, answer the question don't ignore it.

I'll keep it short and simple. I brought up Palistan because you were discussing bringing peace and harmony to the world. I am pointing out that while USA is trying to do that, Pakistan has been doing the opposite and creating the terrorists that ruin peace and harmony. If you call that butthurt you must have failed anatomy 101.

why don't you guys just admit that you all screwed up and stop blaming the USA for everything that is wrong with your countries? Stop providing tacit acceptance and support to the religious idiots who preach anti-USA rhetoric and poison generations of muslim kids world over.