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Death of a hate-monger: how the PM exposed himself with his tribute to Singhal

If the SC cant find anything on him, I dont care to bring it up anymore. And it seems the whole world doesnt care as well. All I care about is if he can do as well nationally like he did in his 3 terms in Gujarat.

Here is Narendra Modi immediately after 9/11 participating in NDTV Big fight.

This was in 2011, before he became CM of Gujarat. Its an very interesting debate. You can see that Modi's view has not changed since then,

 
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There are all kinds of excuses for vouching for Mumtaz Qadri, does that make it acceptable. Modi is a mass murderer. Tehelka tv did an entire program that revealed this. I understand the psyche of you Indians completely. Modis role in riots was partly his election reason.

Your opinion of Modi is irrelevant, there are many who believe that some politician or the other is guilty of something. It has to be proved in a court of law. Otherwise it remains just your opinion & of those who share it with you. No particular relevance.

Your understanding of anyone psyche is questionable, you have shown very little ability to not come across as unhinged most of the time. Your opinion is hardly one that anyone here would bother about.

Law and order is not just the provincial government but also the federal governments concern, especially if its ministers constantly make statments calling for the kicking out or other things for Muslims.

Unfortunately, your knowledge of constitutional position in India is even more abysmal than your assumption of knowledge of the Indian psyche.
 
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If the SC cant find anything on him, I dont care to bring it up anymore. And it seems the whole world doesnt care as well. All I care about is if he can do as well nationally like he did in his 3 terms in Gujarat.
You do know SC is not innocent and pretty much responsible for some of our problems. They act as a hindutva body rather than as a national institution.

It not only takes years to bring a case forward-like a property dispute among my fathers side family in Lucknow is going on for a long time. It takes time for them to assess cases. Then there was also the case of Hyderabadi people-muslims whose family members were killed in front of Andhra Pradesh High Court being told to go to Pakistan when they wanted-all they wanted in fact was justice. If the courts don't treat us as citizens of India you can see where my views are coming from.

Nothing happens for no reason-each action has a reaction. I hope you support the muslims if not us the loyal muslims and work with them because minority problems are not only restricted to the muslims-as Orissa riots proved. I wish you luck again in your voting preferences and hope you make the right choice. Good luck.

Your opinion of Modi is irrelevant, there are many who believe that some politician or the other is guilty of something. It has to be proved in a court of law. Otherwise it remains just your opinion & of those who share it with you. No particular relevance.

Your understanding of anyone psyche is questionable, you have shown very little ability to not come across as unhinged most of the time. Your opinion is hardly one that anyone here would bother about.



Unfortunately, your knowledge of constitutional position in India is even more abysmal than your assumption of knowledge of the Indian psyche.
But muslims believe it. Are you saying their views do not count. You are being truthful if you are saying that as our vote does not count for anything. The 80% Hindus have to realize how their voting preferences are communal and are helping a communal cause.
 
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But muslims believe it. Are you saying their views do not count. You are being truthful if you are saying that as our vote does not count for anything. The 80% Hindus have to realize how their voting preferences are communal and are helping a communal cause.

Belief in someone's guilt does not make them legally so. The vote of any Indian citizen counts as much as the vote of any other. The one who gets the majority of the votes cast get elected. There is no other way. No one has a veto.

You do know SC is not innocent and pretty much responsible for some of our problems. They act as a hindutva body rather than as a national institution.

Your problem, as you have demonstrated many times, is with the Indian state. Your commentary is just a reflection of that thought.

It not only takes years to bring a case forward-like a property dispute among my fathers side family in Lucknow is going on for a long time. It takes time for them to assess cases.

Not, as far as I know, a problem restricted only to cases involving Muslims.


Then there was also the case of Hyderabadi people-muslims whose family members were killed in front of Andhra Pradesh High Court being told to go to Pakistan when they wanted-all they wanted in fact was justice. If the courts don't treat us as citizens of India you can see where my views are coming from.

They were told by whom? The judiciary?

You do realise that it was the congress government & not the BJP that governed Andra Pradesh....?
 
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Belief in someone's guilt does not make them legally so. The vote of any Indian citizen counts as much as the vote of any other. The one who gets the majority of the votes cast get elected. There is no other way. No one has a veto.

I understand. But it should have been a little better for the muslims as their vote was annulled completely. 30%+ voted for Congress in the last election and less than 10% for BJP and even those that did were Shias-though while I am not saying their vote does not count I can see BJP played divide and rule politics to get Shia votes and telling us how to think like or as a sub caste of Hinduism. As a sunni though I don't have a single family member in Lucknow who voted BJP. The lines on which the voting took place was communal and both muslims and hindus voted communally. Not about development at all.

Your problem, as you have demonstrated many times, is with the Indian state. Your commentary is just a reflection of that thought.

Obviously. India has mistreated our people. Muslims.

Not, as far as I know, a problem restricted only to cases involving Muslims.

Lets not fool people:
More Than 3 Crore Court Cases Pending Across Country

We all know how long cases take and how many are pending in our courts. If these people would have waited those threatening them would have killed them by the time.
It is a big problem in Pakistan too-these damned pending cases. Though ATC are giving precedence to terrorism related cases.

They were told by whom? The judiciary?

As Azad Deccan Movement alleges judges and lawyers. They also blame the loyal muslims as slaves of india for not raising their voice. But that is going off topic.

You do realise that it was the congress government & not the BJP that governed Andra Pradesh....?

For me both are the same. What BJP did to Muslims Congress did to Sikhs and under their watch Orissa riots occurred too against Christians. As i said justice is the biggest factor. We want the perpetrators in jail. But for muslims the demon is BJP. Sikhs vote for BJP and hate congress. The manners of religion and politics are intricate in the social fabric of the nation. I see that much.
 
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I understand. But it should have been a little better for the muslims as their vote was annulled completely. 30%+ voted for Congress in the last election and less than 10% for BJP and even those that did were Shias-though while I am not saying their vote does not count I can see BJP played divide and rule politics to get Shia votes and telling us how to think like or as a sub caste of Hinduism. As a sunni though I don't have a single family member in Lucknow who voted BJP. The lines on which the voting took place was communal and both muslims and hindus voted communally. Not about development at all.

The Congress is not a Muslim party that you can suggest there was communal voting. Millions of Hindus voted for the Congress, far more than the number of Muslims who did. You have very poor understanding of Indian politics. In both UP & Bihar where Muslims form a substantial voting percentage, the Congress was not an realistic option & the main opponents of the BJP were regional parties. Lucknow has had a tradition of voting BJP even when the BJP fared poorly in the rest of the state & even in the rest of the country. It was Vajpayee's seat after all.

Lucknow (Lok Sabha constituency) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


If the country voted purely on a communal basis the BJP would have got 3/4th majority which it didn't.



Obviously. India has mistreated our people. Muslims.

That is your opinion. Many would differ, even more so when they consider how minorities have fared in those parts where Muslims constituted an majority & which became a different country.

This is not to suggest that there is no case to be made for a better deal for many who happen to be Muslim. Like many others in India, they have not always had the easiest of time. The burden of partition & the crippling effect of the complete wiping out of the Muslim middle class because of migration had dealt a severe blow. Making that up is a long term affair with the rise of a new middle class being a slow affair. In many parts of S.India, Muslims have done much better because they didn't lose that many to partition.

If you want to look, you will see plenty of evidence to suggest that there is & was a genuine effort to better the lot of Muslims, within the limits of what is still a poor & developing country. However if you insist on looking at it only through the tinted glasses of your choice, not much that can be said to make you change your viewpoint.



Lets not fool people:
More Than 3 Crore Court Cases Pending Across Country

We all know how long cases take and how many are pending in our courts. If these people would have waited those threatening them would have killed them by the time.
It is a big problem in Pakistan too-these damned pending cases. Though ATC are giving precedence to terrorism related cases.

Yeah, lets not fool people. There is no connection to religion here.


As Azad Deccan Movement alleges judges and lawyers. They also blame the loyal muslims as slaves of india for not raising their voice. But that is going off topic.

Impossible for judges to say it, as for the rest, no idea who said what, nor can the country be responsible for the voices of some idiots even if it were true.


For me both are the same. What BJP did to Muslims Congress did to Sikhs and under their watch Orissa riots occurred too against Christians. As i said justice is the biggest factor. We want the perpetrators in jail. But for muslims the demon is BJP. Sikhs vote for BJP and hate congress. The manners of religion and politics are intricate in the social fabric of the nation. I see that much

Again wrong. Orissa riots were not connected to a congress government at the state, it was regional party at the helm. Those riots happened after the killing of a Hindu godman. Justice in all cases of riots is slow, especially if it happens in rural areas where witnesses tend to split on religious lines. People end up in jail, whether it is Gujarat or Orissa, just that it is a slow, tedious process & not always with a satisfactory outcome.
 
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