Day 1 In Trump's America

[LA se Karachi]

Ronald Reagan was fighting against a party taken over by Liberal Rockefellers

That may be true. But either way, he supported free trade and furthered it as President. There is no denying this fact.

Even democrats are now liberal republicans

There's some truth to that. But most Democrats don't support free trade agreements (as can be seen with the NAFTA vote), while most Republicans do. That was my only point.

 

[forsigmar]

That may be true. But either way, he supported free trade and furthered it as President. There is no denying this fact.




There's some truth to that. But most Democrats don't support free trade agreements (as can be seen with the NAFTA vote), while most Republicans do. That was my only point.

There is a difference between conservatives, liberals and political party. In your first posts, you stated


No, conservatives do that. They support low taxes for the wealthy, a lower minimum wage, less regulation in financial markets, and trade deals that hurt American workers. They're quite open about it. This has led to wages stagnating and to a decline in the middle class, all while income for the wealthiest Americans (top 1-10%) has soared over the past 35 years.

Democrats are liberal, and the Rockefellers are liberal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Rockefeller

Birth of Nafta
http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/02/28/the-birth-of-nafta/

"The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, some say, is that the Democrats do it to us with lubrication. Poppy Bush probably could not have forced NAFTA through Congress. It took the Clinton side agreements to slide it through."

Their voting doesn't matter because both sides are controlled by liberals.

This link claims NAFTA was under Reagan but it is not correct/deceptive

This link shows that Rockefellers were earliest promotor of Nafta.
https://books.google.com/books?id=M...#v=onepage&q=nelson rockefeller nafta&f=false

Rockefeller Trilateral comission with liberal bushes supported NAFTA/ other global organizations.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite03.htm

Reagan was most protectionist US president since 1950s. He did more than his predecessors in protecting US industry and the American People.

http://www.trivisonno.com/hill-rock

In a 2013 speech to a Brazilian bank, Hillary Clinton said (according to WikiLeaks):

“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders…”

Funny thing about this dream…it’s been the same dream of the Republican Rockefellers for decades. The “dream” of dissolving the USA into Latin America goes all the way back to 1945 when Nelson Rockefeller tried to make it happen. Here is a quote from David Rockefeller’s Memoirs:

“Nelson laid the foundation for a new “Inter-American” system, a true economic and political partnership within the hemisphere rather than just a security alliance. He…forged a hemispheric consensus…”

Note the “hemispheric” code-word in both quotes.

Nelson Rockefeller failed back then, but the Rockefellers kept trying and achieved a partial victory when Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law in 1993.

The Clintons have always worked for the Robber Barons, and Hillary still does.

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/publ...1115_006-mexicans_speak_out_against_nafta.pdf

Nelson Rockefeller's report on the Americas.
We believe that when Nelson Rockefeller gave his 1969 Report on the Americas, he laid the basis for such loyal employees as Henry Kissinger to prepare various proposals, which are now to culminate in NAFfA [North American Free Trade Agreement]. In 1975, Kissinger proposed the formation of a world raw materials bank. Richard Nixon received from Nelson Rockefeller himself a proposal to base foreign policy on an "international division of labor," ac cording to which the underdeveloped countries would be mere providers of raw materials. . . .

This was before Reagan even went into office.

 

[LA se Karachi]

There is a difference between conservatives, liberals and political party. In your first posts, you stated

Okay, but typically, these days someone who supports free-trade agreements in the US is called fiscally conservative, though that wasn't originally the case.


In any case, my point remains only this:

In the present, Most Democrats don't support free trade agreements (as can be seen with the NAFTA vote), while most Republicans do. That was my only point.

 

[forsigmar]

Okay, but typically, these days someone who supports free-trade agreements in the US is called fiscally conservative, though that wasn't originally the case.


In any case, my point remains only this:

In the present, Most Democrats don't support free trade agreements (as can be seen with the NAFTA vote), while most Republicans do. That was my only point.

and my point is this:

"The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, some say, is that the Democrats do it to us with lubrication. Poppy Bush probably could not have forced NAFTA through Congress. It took the Clinton side agreements to slide it through."

Their voting doesn't matter because both sides are controlled by liberals.

 

[LA se Karachi]

"The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, some say, is that the Democrats do it to us with lubrication. Poppy Bush probably could not have forced NAFTA through Congress. It took the Clinton side agreements to slide it through."

Some Democrats (like the Clintons), yes. But not most, no.

Their voting doesn't matter because both sides are controlled by liberals.

On the contrary, it is the only thing that matters. That's how laws are enacted, obviously. Everything else is just talk.

If only Democrats had been voting, NAFTA would never have passed, a majority of them did not support it. A majority of Republicans did, however, and that's why we have NAFTA now:

 

[flamer84]

Some Democrats (like the Clintons), yes. But not most, no.

Kind of redundant as they supported rapist Bill before and his rape apologising wife in 2016.

 

[KAL-EL]

On the first day he's going to blab about all the little gray Aliens we have in Area 51 as our Minions. That secret is as good as &$@# over.

Actually hoping that he discloses that we already have warp capability. Or at the very least, it's near completion and ready for test runs to Jupiter and back.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Actually hoping that he discloses that we already have warp capability. Or at the very least, it's near completion and ready for test runs to Jupiter and back.

...and the black monolith.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Actually hoping that he discloses that we already have warp capability. Or at the very least, it's near completion and ready for test runs to Jupiter and back.

Would certainly be better than him boasting about how he can forcibly grope any women's genitals without any legal reprecussions at least.

 

[flamer84]

Would certainly be better than him boasting about how he can forcibly grope any women's genitals without any legal reprecussions at least.

What legal consequences? Tht's what you and the rest of the sheep don't get it,altough he said himself...."they let you do it because you're a celebrity".Did the term consensual penetrated your commie mind ?

 

[forsigmar]

Some Democrats (like the Clintons), yes. But not most, no.




On the contrary, it is the only thing that matters. That's how laws are enacted, obviously. Everything else is just talk.

If only Democrats had been voting, NAFTA would never have passed, a majority of them did not support it. A majority of Republicans did, however, and that's why we have NAFTA now:


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Wow, please. Most democrats support the Clintons.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109870/bill-clintons-image-has-taken-hit-legacy-largely-intact.aspx

"Notably, Obama supporters are largely positive when assessing Bill Clinton's historical significance. Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents who say they supported Obama in the primaries, 60% say Clinton will be regarded as an outstanding or above-average president. That pales in comparison to the 80% above-average or better ratings from Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries, but is little different from the 65% of all Democrats in 2006 who said Bill Clinton would get a favorable historical review."

How would NAFTA not passed? Both sides were controlled by liberals.

"The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, some say, is that the Democrats do it to us with lubrication. Poppy Bush probably could not have forced NAFTA through Congress. It took the Clinton side agreements to slide it through."

 

[KAL-EL]

Would certainly be better than him boasting about how he can forcibly grope any women's genitals without any legal reprecussions at least.

Well that's certainly goes without saying.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What legal consequences? Tht's what you and the rest of the sheep don't get it,altough he said himself...."they let you do it because you're a celebrity".Did the term consensual penetrated your commie mind ?

Uh, did you miss the news where there were countless reports from women saying that he molested them against their will?

How do you see that as "consensual"? Do you know what that word means?

 

[KAL-EL]

...and the black monolith.

"ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS - EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE"

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

These trump threads are getting redundant and pathetic.