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sorry Bro, but it is BS.
1) you (and I !) don't know the real life span of a Meteor.
2) The Meteor that France give you (at the special Indian request) may be perfectly new, if they were not fit on a plane before. The life span is mainly the time under the wings, and not the time spending.
1. I know the life span of solid propellants unless Meteor uses alien tech it has a much..much ...much shorter than the Rafale. Typically, AAMs are sent back to manufacturers between 3-5 years for maintenance to check and replace solid propellants if signs of crystallization or degradation is detected during testing. Containerized missiles have a much longer shelf life up to 20 years since the container protects the propellants from the elements.


2. It's already two years old. Under wing time is more relevant to IR Missiles that require a cryogenic cooling vacuum flask. Captive carry time for the Meteor is reported as a 1,000 hrs by Janes
https://www.defense.gouv.fr/espanol/dga/actualite/commande-de-200-missiles-meteor

False.
To guide the laser you need image. The laser beam is not directed on map coordinates.

Hilarious, laser target designator provides the weapon with grid coordinates with GPS/Elevation/Azimuth.


The Lockheed Martin Sniper is a targeting pod for military aircraft that provides positive target identification, autonomous tracking, GPS coordinate generation, and precise weapons guidance from extended standoff ranges.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper_Advanced_Targeting_Pod
 
Will this arrival means the completion of 36 rafaels? and did they already ordered another 44?
 
Will this arrival means the completion of 36 rafaels? and did they already ordered another 44?

Only 5 Rafale skeletons arriving now for Indian exhibition.

It will be 2024 at the least before all 36 Rafales are delivered.

India does not have money for additional Rafales.
 
1. I know the life span of solid propellants unless Meteor uses alien tech it has a much..much ...much shorter than the Rafale. Typically, AAMs are sent back to manufacturers between 3-5 years for maintenance to check and replace solid propellants if signs of crystallization or degradation is detected during testing. Containerized missiles have a much longer shelf life up to 20 years since the container protects the propellants from the elements.
Nothing special about Meteor.
Meteor is not said to have a shorter life than AMRAAM for exemple. Please stop trying without success to convince us.

2. It's already two years old. Under wing time is more relevant to IR Missiles that require a cryogenic cooling vacuum flask. Captive carry time for the Meteor is reported as a 1,000 hrs by Janes
Two years? Maybe. Maybe not. The first French air force Meteor were delivered two years ago, but the last hasn't been delivered... So your allegation is not proved.

Why speaking of cryogenic cooling? Meteor has no IR model. Only radar seeker.

Hilarious, laser target designator provides the weapon with grid coordinates with GPS/Elevation/Azimuth.
100 x Hilarious : how a laser pod can design a moving target without image treatment?
The ground coordinates may be used for a first designation, but the fine tuning is made through image correlation.
 
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

RAFALE_J20_COMPARE-x576.jpg


The first batch of five Rafale jets took off from France on Monday starting its journey home. The jets are expected to be operationally ready when it lands in Ambala, a new home for the fighter aircraft, on July 29 amidst the ongoing tussle between India and China.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has made it clear that the pilots, ground crew and the fighter will be operationally ready as the jets reach India. Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.

The stealth characteristics of the J-20 are also under suspicion, say experts based on several analysis done by the Indian Air Force. The J-20 was hyped to be a highly stealthy aircraft and that it could conceal itself in operations and not be easily detected.

J-20 weapons system no match for Rafale

Experts say if the J-20 was the best, why would the Chinese go for the Russian Su35. But the Russian jets too might not be able to compete with the Rafale.



https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...on-of-the-two-fighter-jets-1705178-2020-07-28
 
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

RAFALE_J20_COMPARE-x576.jpg


The first batch of five Rafale jets took off from France on Monday starting its journey home. The jets are expected to be operationally ready when it lands in Ambala, a new home for the fighter aircraft, on July 29 amidst the ongoing tussle between India and China.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has made it clear that the pilots, ground crew and the fighter will be operationally ready as the jets reach India. Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.

The stealth characteristics of the J-20 are also under suspicion, say experts based on several analysis done by the Indian Air Force. The J-20 was hyped to be a highly stealthy aircraft and that it could conceal itself in operations and not be easily detected.

J-20 weapons system no match for Rafale

Experts say if the J-20 was the best, why would the Chinese go for the Russian Su35. But the Russian jets too might not be able to compete with the Rafale.



https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...on-of-the-two-fighter-jets-1705178-2020-07-28


Indians!

:rofl:
 
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

RAFALE_J20_COMPARE-x576.jpg


The first batch of five Rafale jets took off from France on Monday starting its journey home. The jets are expected to be operationally ready when it lands in Ambala, a new home for the fighter aircraft, on July 29 amidst the ongoing tussle between India and China.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has made it clear that the pilots, ground crew and the fighter will be operationally ready as the jets reach India. Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.

The stealth characteristics of the J-20 are also under suspicion, say experts based on several analysis done by the Indian Air Force. The J-20 was hyped to be a highly stealthy aircraft and that it could conceal itself in operations and not be easily detected.

J-20 weapons system no match for Rafale

Experts say if the J-20 was the best, why would the Chinese go for the Russian Su35. But the Russian jets too might not be able to compete with the Rafale.



https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...on-of-the-two-fighter-jets-1705178-2020-07-28

India Today? right?

Continue reading it........
 
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

RAFALE_J20_COMPARE-x576.jpg


The first batch of five Rafale jets took off from France on Monday starting its journey home. The jets are expected to be operationally ready when it lands in Ambala, a new home for the fighter aircraft, on July 29 amidst the ongoing tussle between India and China.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has made it clear that the pilots, ground crew and the fighter will be operationally ready as the jets reach India. Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.

The stealth characteristics of the J-20 are also under suspicion, say experts based on several analysis done by the Indian Air Force. The J-20 was hyped to be a highly stealthy aircraft and that it could conceal itself in operations and not be easily detected.

J-20 weapons system no match for Rafale

Experts say if the J-20 was the best, why would the Chinese go for the Russian Su35. But the Russian jets too might not be able to compete with the Rafale.



https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...on-of-the-two-fighter-jets-1705178-2020-07-28
I hope all Indians will believe this, their arrogance is a blessing for us.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.
Wow, he can't be serious?
 
SOURCE: INDIA TODAY

RAFALE_J20_COMPARE-x576.jpg


The first batch of five Rafale jets took off from France on Monday starting its journey home. The jets are expected to be operationally ready when it lands in Ambala, a new home for the fighter aircraft, on July 29 amidst the ongoing tussle between India and China.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has made it clear that the pilots, ground crew and the fighter will be operationally ready as the jets reach India. Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

Rafale can counter China’s premier fighter jet Chengdu J-20

“Rafale is far superior to the J-20, the Chengdu fighter of China. Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter, it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” said Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd) who flight tested the Rafale fighter jets for India.

The stealth characteristics of the J-20 are also under suspicion, say experts based on several analysis done by the Indian Air Force. The J-20 was hyped to be a highly stealthy aircraft and that it could conceal itself in operations and not be easily detected.

J-20 weapons system no match for Rafale

Experts say if the J-20 was the best, why would the Chinese go for the Russian Su35. But the Russian jets too might not be able to compete with the Rafale.



https://www.indiatoday.in/news-anal...on-of-the-two-fighter-jets-1705178-2020-07-28
Is it only me or anyone else also thinks that as soon as Rafales land in India, Indians gonna put their weiner in it to express their love(& lust)?
 
Funny thread, India got Rafale, suddenly Rafale lost its relevance.

:dirol:
 

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