Dassault contracted to conduct Mirage 2000D MLU

[Vergennes]

The French Air Force is to proceed with an upgrade of its Dassault Mirage 2000D combat aircraft that was approved by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) in late 2015.

The French Air Force is to upgrade 55 of its Mirage 2000D all-weather combat aircraft to keep them in service through to 2030. (Frederic Lert)

The contract to carry out the mid-life upgrade (MLU) was announced by Dassault on 19 July, and will see the company carry out work primarily to the avionics and weapons systems.

As previously reported by IHS Jane's , this work will include managing radar and avionics obsolescence issues, as well as swapping the soon-to-be retired MBDA R550 Magic 2 short-range air-to-air missile (AAM) with the newer MBDA MICA InfraRed (IR) AAM, and the fitting of a gun pod for air-to-surface and air-to-air applications.

http://www.janes.com/article/62390/dassault-contracted-to-conduct-mirage-2000d-mlu

 

[war&peace]

What does this upgrade entails? Since the article is muted about details.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

What does this upgrade entails? Since the article is muted about details.

Similar to indian mirages upgrade

 

[Taygibay]

Similar to indian mirages upgrade

Not at all, not even close!

Gun pod;
MICA IR;
Dual type load for bombs on the bottom ( dumb bomb / LGB );
Integration of the Rover system, that allows a tablet type device
to serve as link to JTAC teams on the ground, with AC's targeting
system. The rest and especially the radar will remain unchanged.

We don't need a full Indian type upgrade as those Diesels will be
replaced with Rafales by 2030 at latest so 11 years max from refit.

Have a great day, Tay.

 

[GuardianRED]

Not at all, not even close!

Gun pod;
MICA IR;
Dual type load for bombs on the bottom ( dumb bomb / LGB );
Integration of the Rover system, that allows a tablet type device
to serve as link to JTAC teams on the ground, with AC's targeting
system. The rest and especially the radar will remain unchanged.

We don't need a full Indian type upgrade as those Diesels will be
replaced with Rafales by 2030 at latest so 11 years max from refit.

Have a great day, Tay.

So this will be ONLY for the earlier variants of the Mirage 2000? As a stop gap measure still the Rafales come in?

 

[Taygibay]

As a stop gap measure still the Rafales come in?

Yes mate! But it only concerns the 2000 D ( known affectionately as Diesels ).

The 2000 Cs and Ns will be phasing out and the dash Fives have seen their
lifetime simply extended to 9,000 hours as their standard is more modern.

Have a good day, Tay.

 

[4GTejasBVR]

What is the difference between indian and French upgrade?

 

[GuardianRED]

and the Dash 5s will just be structure and hardware extended. would have be fun to see them upgraded like BOB

 

[4GTejasBVR]

Yes mate! But it only concerns the 2000 D ( known affectionately as Diesels ).

The 2000 Cs and Ns will be phasing out and the dash Fives have seen their
lifetime simply extended to 9,000 hours as their standard is more modern.

Have a good day, Tay.

Some people are talking about LSA planned for IAF or may even Israel. Am not sure and I never heard of . France Israeli and India should look into this concept for low cost single engined Light stealth aircraft . Which can replace our large older 3.5 and 4th gen fighter fleet in future . Engine can be from France , Avionics from Israeli airframe from India EW from France ... it's of IAF. Likewise each of us can own configuration

 

[Taygibay]

What is the difference between indian and French upgrade?

Re-read my post #4 buddy. The modernization of India's 2000s makes them as new -5
( like the UAE's -9 more or less ) except that the engine is unchanged.

LSA planned for IAF or may even Israel. Am not sure and I never heard of .

Don't get caught dreaming about LSA, man! Almost by definition,
a single engine light jet fighter can't be made stealthy or not fully.

First, where will you put cargo bays for 8 missiles in something as
small or smaller than a Tejas?

Second, sacrificing aerodynamics for stealthy shapes augments the
drag coefficient a lot. That's a major reason for even twin engined
Rafale to have gone LO and not full VLO and depend on SPECTRA.

Third, as a corollary to the previous point, you then need more power
to propel the resulting fattie : either a huge motor or best, two not one!

You can easily see what I just described at work in the USA stable :
2 engines, bigger plane, less compromise on aerodynamics = F-22
1 big engine, pig bellied, lesser performances = F-35

Then check what the Celestials did to correct the latter : two engines
allowing for refined aerodynamics on the GyrFalcon / J/F-31.
And by the way, check the dimensions of either the J-20, T-50 PakFa
or Raptor : not close to the definition of a light fighter.

Tiny+long-range+big carry+stealth? Just leave such bedtime stories to kids!
Or take the human pilot out ...

Have a great evening, Tay.

 

[kaykay]

Some people are talking about LSA planned for IAF or may even Israel. Am not sure and I never heard of . France Israeli and India should look into this concept for low cost single engined Light stealth aircraft . Which can replace our large older 3.5 and 4th gen fighter fleet in future . Engine can be from France , Avionics from Israeli airframe from India EW from France ... it's of IAF. Likewise each of us can own configuration

Sorry mate but there is nothing concrete about LSA anyway. And I don't believe all these forum talks about some 'LSA' when I have heard nothing about it officially or even close. Its just a hoax as of yet, nothing more nothing less. Period.

 

[Agent_47]

Yes mate! But it only concerns the 2000 D ( known affectionately as Diesels ).

The 2000 Cs and Ns will be phasing out and the dash Fives have seen their
lifetime simply extended to 9,000 hours as their standard is more modern.

Have a good day, Tay.

Lets say IAF want to procure a sqd of 2000, What are the options? (It should serve till 2030.)

 

[Taygibay]

Lets say IAF want to procure a sqd of 2000, What are the options? (It should serve till 2030.)

Pay the cost equivalent of a Rafale for each so the French govt replaces them with Raffys.
I would not recommend that. A better alternative would be signing the 36+MII line deals and
get shiny new Rafales yourself while LCA Mk2 does the basic job.

@GuardianRED That pic shows a testbed 2000 from CEAM/DGA carrying the nose of a
Rafale for AESA trials. It will not be offered as a stand alone solution.

Have a great day, Tay.

 

[rockstarIN]

Not at all, not even close!

Gun pod;
MICA IR;
Dual type load for bombs on the bottom ( dumb bomb / LGB );
Integration of the Rover system, that allows a tablet type device
to serve as link to JTAC teams on the ground, with AC's targeting
system. The rest and especially the radar will remain unchanged.

We don't need a full Indian type upgrade as those Diesels will be
replaced with Rafales by 2030 at latest so 11 years max from refit.

Have a great day, Tay.

Don't you think your air force will miss a low cost light fighter when all M2ks will be replaced with Rafales?

 

[A_Poster]

Sorry mate but there is nothing concrete about LSA anyway. And I don't believe all these forum talks about some 'LSA' when I have heard nothing about it officially or even close. Its just a hoax as of yet, nothing more nothing less. Period.

If LCA mkII is successful, A Light stealth aircraft would be a natural progression; but surely these talks of a LSA coming out of a parallel design effort in 2025 time frame is baloney. A LSA ,if and when it comes, would be a further development of LCA mkII -with internal weapon bay, more composites, and some minimal stealth shaping- and it would come in 2030+ time frame, after AMCA, and would be a replacement for LCA mkI.