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India has worst record of dams’ failure; Nine dams have so far collapsed destroying downstream areas​

Saturday, February 14, 2009

ISLAMABAD: The three dams being built by India on River Indus could play havoc in Northern Areas of Pakistan if the said reservoirs collapse for any reason intentionally or unintentionally releasing huge quantum of water causing flash floods that could devastate large swathes of land in Pakistan.

The Skardu city is to be the first victim and its airport that is only 17 to 18 meter high from Indus bed, would be submerged. The 282 Kilometer section of Karakoram Highway (KKH) from Besham to Jaglot having total length 806 Kilometer from Hasanabdal to Khunjarab would be washed away along with all bridges.

The said dams have exposed the Diamer-Bhasha Dam to danger, a senior official disclosed this to The News quoting the information contained in the Annexure A of the letter faxed to Prime Minister, and Federal Minister of Water and Power and environment by Arshad H Abbasi, Visiting Research fellow SDPI Islamabad.

“India is constructing large dams on River Indus, which include Nimoo Bazgo with height 57-metre, Dumkhar of 42 meters height and “Chutak” dam 59 meters height to basically generate hydropower. Three dams can store water up to 120,000,000 cubic meters. India’s dam-failure record has been worst, as nine of its dams have so far collapsed,” he said.

The scribe when contacted Sardar Aseff Ahmed Ali Deputy Chairman Planning Commission for comments over the development he said: “The concerns in your startling information earlier published in The News is well taken and this will be provided to the concerned department to take up this issue with authorities concerned in Pakistan as to whether the projects are being made by India on River Indus are in line with Indus Waters Treaty or not and the impact of the said dams on Pakistan’s areas if the dams collapsed.”

To a question he said that Kalabagh Dam has been deferred not shelved forever. The fast pace construction of Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower project has also been kicked off to establishing committed water uses on Rive Jhelum.

So we are working but as far as the erection of dams on Indus by India is concerned, Planning Commission is not mandated to look upon this very issue. However, he being Deputy Chairman of Planning Commission would take up this issue with concerned authorities in Pakistan.

This scribe failed despite two days of efforts to make contact with Shahid Rafi, Secretary Water and Power seeking comments over the issue.

When contacted Syed Jamaat Ali Shah, Pakistan Commissioner of Indus Waters said that his department is aware of the development and said that India can make the projects on run of the river. When asked as to whether he ever visited the site where India has kicked of physical construction, he said not yet. “We would like to go there when the tension between India and Pakistan following the Bombay attacks ease,” he said.

When asked that these projects have been substantially constructed and why Pakistani experts team has not so far visited the site, Shah argued that under the Treaty India is obliged to give information about the projects and we have received the information. He said whenever the tension will ease Pakistan’s experts would visit the site of the said dams.

When asked that India have worst ever track record of dams’ failure, he said: “We do not need to be worried as India is now introducing the modern technology in building the dams.”

However, the letter faxed to the government says that even in the modern history of dams, India has the worst record in dams’ failure. As many as nine dams of India have so far collapsed and the failure the latest was Jaswant Sagar Dam of 43.38 meters height that collapsed in July 2007.

Pakistan being on low riparian side is exposed to massive annihilation if the said three dams collapse.

The Nimoo Bazgo Hydro Power (HE) Project is situated at village Alchi, 70 kilometers from Leh and construction work is at full swing.

Dumkhar HE Project is proposed to generate 130 MW by construction of 42-meter high dam. The project site is located at about 128 Km from Leh on Leh-Khalsi Batalik road. And Hydroelectric Project “Chutak” is under construction on River Suru, (a major tributary of Indus River in Indian held Kashmir) to harness 44 MW initially in Kargil district by construction of 59-metre-high concrete Dam. Failure of Banqiao dam in China in August 1975 caused a 10 km wide and up to 23 ft high wave rushing downwards to the plains at nearly 50 km per hour killing 26,000 people from flooding and another 145,000 from subsequent epidemics and famine.
 
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As Far as I know India Doesn't has a Right to Build Dams on Indus River. According to Indus Waters Treaty in 1960. The treaty gave India control of the three easternmost rivers of the Punjab, the Sutlej, the Beas and the Ravi, while Pakistan gained control of the three western rivers, the Jhelum, the Chenab and the Indus. India retained the right to use of the western rivers for non irrigation projects.
 
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As Far as I know India Doesn't has a Right to Build Dams on Indus River. According to Indus Waters Treaty in 1960. The treaty gave India control of the three easternmost rivers of the Punjab, the Sutlej, the Beas and the Ravi, while Pakistan gained control of the three western rivers, the Jhelum, the Chenab and the Indus. India retained the right to use of the western rivers for non irrigation projects.

As once told to me by someone, SSG is capable enough to lead a covert op to blow up these pathetic dams. When EXACTLY are we going to do something about it? When they'll deprive us from our basic necessity?
 
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Indus is life line of Pakistan and should be our top priority. We can't trust India when it comes to water, we've seen it in the Chenab affair and its happening again.

Since India is in violation of the IWT why don't we sabotage the projects and keep doing that till UN intervenes?
 
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As Far as I know India Doesn't has a Right to Build Dams on Indus River. According to Indus Waters Treaty in 1960. The treaty gave India control of the three easternmost rivers of the Punjab, the Sutlej, the Beas and the Ravi, while Pakistan gained control of the three western rivers, the Jhelum, the Chenab and the Indus. India retained the right to use of the western rivers for non irrigation projects.


Why should India keep the same old 1960 water treaty in place? How come natural resource of India belongs to pakistan? India has every right to do wat ever it wants to do in its own land. If war happens and pakistan start bombing why not be open up these dams? :bounce:
 
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Since India is in violation of the IWT why don't we sabotage the projects and keep doing that till UN intervenes?


Neo, can you please point me to a report by world bank stating India has violated IWT :confused:

With regards to sabotage I can only say good luck to Pakistan.
 
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Why should India keep the same old 1960 water treaty in place? How come natural resource of India belongs to pakistan? India has every right to do wat ever it wants to do in its own land. If war happens and pakistan start bombing why not be open up these dams? :bounce:

Well you said it, do it in your own land and we can live with it. Kashmir is a disputed territory, your activities are illegal and designed to harm Pakistan.
 
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Neo, can you please point me to a report by world bank stating India has violated IWT :confused:

With regards to sabotage I can only say good luck to Pakistan.

Check the IWT, India has control of three eastern rivers which do not include India. :coffee:


Pakistan is an agricultural country. Eighty percent of its agricultural output comes from the Indus Basin. Pakistan has one of the world's largest canal systems built much before Independence by the British. After Independence, problems between the two countries arose over the distribution of water. Rivers flow into Pakistan territory from across India. In 1947, when Punjab was divided between the two countries, many of the canal head-works remained with India. The division of Punjab thus created major problems for irrigation in Pakistan.

On April 1, 1948, India stopped the supply of water to Pakistan from every canal flowing from India to Pakistan. Pakistan protested and India finally agreed on an interim agreement on May 4, 1948. This agreement was not a permanent solution; therefore, Pakistan approached the World Bank in 1952 to help settle the problem permanently. Negotiations were carried out between the two countries through the offices of the World Bank. It was finally in Ayub Khan's regime that an agreement was signed between India and Pakistan in September 1960. This agreement is known as the Indus Water Treaty.

This treaty divided the use of rivers and canals between the two countries. Pakistan obtained exclusive rights for the three western rivers, namely Indus, Jehlum and Chenab. And India retained rights to the three eastern rivers, namely Ravi, Beas and Sutluj. The treaty also guaranteed ten years of uninterrupted water supply. During this period Pakistan was to build huge dams, financed partly by long-term World Bank loans and compensation money from India. Three multipurpose dams, Warsak, Mangla and Tarbela were built. A system of eight link canals was also built, and the remodeling of existing canals was carried out. Five barrages and a gated siphon were also constructed under this treaty.
 
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Well you said it, do it in your own land and we can live with it. Kashmir is a disputed territory, your activities are illegal and designed to harm Pakistan.

Yeah. We will continue working on it. You better wait for UN to resolve the issue. Anyway you believe pak would get kashmir any time soon...why do u stop development of Kashmir. If you get kashmir u will get with dams... :bounce:

This treaty divided the use of rivers and canals between the two countries. Pakistan obtained exclusive rights for the three western rivers, namely Indus, Jehlum and Chenab. And India retained rights to the three eastern rivers, namely Ravi, Beas and Sutluj. The treaty also guaranteed ten years of uninterrupted water supply.

We are in 2009..IWT talks only till 1970?? Any latest update to this agreement or any improvement corrections done?
 
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I have said many times before, that this action by Bharat is a conspiracy to destabilise pakistan, as the provinces will start fighting over the little water that is left.

What are the options? take the fight to kashmir? run to the world bank again?
 
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I have said many times before, that this action by Bharat is a conspiracy to destabilise pakistan, as the provinces will start fighting over the little water that is left.

What are the options? take the fight to kashmir? run to the world bank again?

There's always been A LOT of military options on the table regarding the Indian dams. Cutting off a country's basic necessity isn't a small issue. There's a right time for every action I suppose.

We're more than just capable of destroying their petty dams and there's not much they can do in retaliation. You can't expect to deprive a nation from it's rights and then not expect any offensive.
 
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Yeah. We will continue working on it. You better wait for UN to resolve the issue. Anyway you believe pak would get kashmir any time soon...why do u stop development of Kashmir. If you get kashmir u will get with dams... :bounce:

We don't have to, Kashmir will never be a part of India even if you send a million troops to supress its freedom. Your hindu governments will do the rest.
If you think India or Kashmir is immune to global awakening of muslims then you're being naive.
 
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What are the options? take the fight to kashmir? run to the world bank again?

No, simply divert the river flow. It can be done by controlled explosions. Its not going to be easy and would require billions of $$$ but life of 166 million is at stake here.

Pakistan will be world's fourth most populous country by 2050...I can't imagine the price of water then...
 
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What sort of explosions? Are you suggesting PAF involvement? Do we have such contingency plans ready?
 
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