Crypto currency investors

[pak-marine]

My friend there is a habit with BTC when ever it starts to gains the left outs will go MSM and make statements to make it fall to buy them selves. Now EU has decided to launch a crackdown but it will effect for only one or two days max then crypto will rise again. this year high will be 25000$ and crypto will fall some where 27th dec to 2nd January before rising again.

Regretting i got in at 7k and sold
At 8k after all the silly news last month fck is now 18k could have doubled my money

its nature of the currency and its a bubble

Entire world keeps on saying the same however no impact on prices if bubble theory was correct it would have burst some where from 1200 - 8000 which it didnt !!???

 

[Hareeb]

Don't talk about things you have little idea about. There is thing called hardware wallet like Ledger Nano S which barely cost $70 and its impossible to hack. Only noobs people keep their bitcoins in exchanges for long period.

Myths about bitcoin not being secure is the reason so many people have missed the boat Even I believed that to be the case many years ago when I first heard about it. But one thing I learned in last 3 months is that its never too late. Market have increased 3 folds in 3 months alone. Who knows where it will be by end of 2018, likely $3 trillion.

May be you dont follow the news. Bitcoins worth $78 million are stolen this month while worth $31 million were stolen last month, and you think a $70 wallet can secure your ars.

Bitcoin is a mere financial bubble.
Bitcoins are not valuable because they are not value-producing assets. People are pouring too much money in these invalueable assets while they are not even included in securities. Having a zero intrinsic value, bitcoin is too much overvalued by market and once this honeymoon period is done and investors start liquifying them, this all hype and boom is going to collapse.

 

[BHarwana]

Just curious what made u so certain that will drop

It is an old trend Usually bitcoin investors have expensive girlfriends and New year is the time for vocation for them trust me. . Just kidding but it will drop in those dates.

Regretting i got in at 7k and sold
At 8k after all the silly news last month fck is now 18k could have doubled my money

I got is at 600$ and still holding will sell in august 2018.

 

[Kabira]

May be you dont follow the news. Bitcoins worth $78 million are stolen this month while worth $31 million were stolen last month, and you think a $70 wallet can secure your ars.

Bitcoin is a mere financial bubble.
Bitcoins are not valuable because they are not value-producing assets. People are pouring too much money in these invalueable assets while they are not even included in securities. Having a zero intrinsic value, bitcoin is too much overvalued by market and once this honeymoon period is done and investors start liquifying them, this all hype and boom is going to collapse.

I follow the news, bitcoin was not stolen from personal wallets but from mining company, who knows what the truth is. Bitcoin in personal wallet is more secure then money in safest bank in the world. And in hardware wallet its impossible for anyone else but you to access even if you wanted someone else to access from far away.

Its making lots of money to people. As I said I got in 3 months ago, best decision ever. People like you who FUD because thinking they missed the boat, think again...

BTW bitcoin isn't only currency, you can make huge gains by investing in good ICOs. Last week I invested just $740 in Wabi ICO, week later that turned in to $6000.

I brought Hextracoin for $200 sold for 0.56 bitcoin which is $10k now.... can give you many examples. You must be thinking why I didn't get more, well because its was near impossible to get in the first place. Got it after trying many days. I can convert bitcoin in to fiat any time. But this world is just starting, its like internet in 90's. We are not even in buble phase. You think 2017 was big? Wait by end of 2018...

I got is at 600$ and still holding will sell in august 2018.

winner

These won't go too high up. XRP for example has availability in billions. Bitcoin as a comparison has an availability of a few millions only. So you have to remember that. Ferraris are only made in very little quantity so thus the price tag of over 100k per car. Vs. the baseline Toyota Camry series that one could get for less than 25K because they make millions of them. The Bitcoin is the Ferrari of the Cryptos, then is the Ether and then LiteCoin. The rest are just secondary markets.

This isn't how it work dear. It all depend on market cap of particular coin. Ether made like 100x gains this year compared to bitcoin 20x.

There are coins with hardly in supply yet are worth less then those with billions of supply...

In past one year XRP started from 0.00096 $ and bitcoin from 700$
Now Btc has reached. 17000 $
Now XRP reached 0.7 $
you tell me which has gained more?

If you invested 700$ in btc it would be 17000$
but if you invested 700$ in XRP it would be 593383$
it is simple mathematics.

Exactly, looks like viper the resident economist and investor on PDF doesn't have even basic idea how it all works.

 

[Kaniska]

Bhai...if people are spending 1000$ in spending on holiday shopping, i feel it is worth putting in Crypto currency than in shopping...If not real investment, but still then worth trying rather than spending without getting any return...I invested 500 last 2 weeks got almost 700...

 

[Hareeb]

I follow the news, bitcoin was not stolen from personal wallets but from mining company, who knows what the truth is. Bitcoin in personal wallet is more secure then money in safest bank in the world. And in hardware wallet its impossible for anyone else but you to access even if you wanted someone else to access from far away.

Kishore Jeswani, 50, fell victim to such hacking in September 2016. Jeswani’s computer was remotely accessed and locked by hackers, who demanded a payment of three bitcoins. However, although Jeswani met their demands, they did not unlock his computer and he ended up losing his data anyway.

--Economic Times of India

BTW bitcoin isn't only currency, you can make huge gains by investing in good ICOs. Last week I invested just $740 in Wabi ICO, week later that turned in to $6000.

It is neither a currency, nor a commodity.
Its working on supply and demand rule. People are pouring money to keep its price up while its value is zero.

But this world is just starting, its like internet in 90's. We are not even in buble phase. You think 2017 was big? Wait by end of 2018...

Lets see how far it can go up without having a backing of any tangile asset.

Its making lots of money to people. As I said I got in 3 months ago, best decision ever. People like you who FUD because thinking they missed the boat, think again...

Think to sell yours before others start liquifying their ones.

 

[Kabira]

Bhai...if people are spending 1000$ in spending on holiday shopping, i feel it is worth putting in Crypto currency than in shopping...If not real investment, but still then worth trying rather than spending without getting any return...I invested 500 last 2 weeks got almost 700...

I don't buy bitcoin. I invest in ICOs and then profit from that get converted in to Bitcoin or Ethereum. As these give quick 5-6x returns in matter of weeks. While bitcoin will obviously take time to give same returns now.

Kishore Jeswani, 50, fell victim to such hacking in September 2016. Jeswani’s computer was remotely accessed and locked by hackers, who demanded a payment of three bitcoins. However, although Jeswani met their demands, they did not unlock his computer and he ended up losing his data anyway.

--Economic Times of India

What have this hack anything to do with bitcoin security when he himself have to sent bitcoin? Please read about hardware wallet and learn why its impossible to hack.

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/

It is neither a currency, nor a commodity.
Its working on supply and demand rule. People are pouring money to keep its price up while its value is zero.

Value is something you give, otherwise piece of paper have no value either.

Think to sell yours before others start liquifying their ones.

Worst advice ever I will bump this thread next year.

 

[Hareeb]

What have this hack anything to do with bitcoin security when he himself have to sent bitcoin? Please read about hardware wallet and learn why its impossible to hack.

https://www.ledgerwallet.com/

Every electronic device and its data can be hacked. Even iphone lock was hacked rest aside your wallet.

Value is something you give, otherwise piece of paper have no value either.

There is a difference between price and value. BTC has no real value. A market instrument without being backed by any tangile asset got so much over priced due to demand and supply rule. People are still pouring hard earned money insanely to keep its price up. Once it is unaffordable for people to buy it, either holders will try to liquify their BTC in cash or sell it at lower prices and then there'll be the start of a new global financial crisis.

Worst advice ever I will bump this thread next year.

Tb ap ro gey or me hansunga.

 

[HttpError]

Which exchange is used to purchase XRP?

You can try Kraken, poloniex or Cex.io

 

[Kabira]

Every electronic device and its data can be hacked. Even iphone lock was hacked rest aside your wallet.

Well you are mistaken then, unless you have access to hardware wallet physically and know pin. You can't do anything with bitcoin....

There is a difference between price and value. BTC has no real value. A market instrument without being backed by any tangile asset got so much over priced due to demand and supply rule. People are still pouring hard earned money insanely to keep its price up. Once it is unaffordable for people to buy it, either holders will try to liquify their BTC in cash or sell it at lower prices and then there'll be the start of a new global financial crisis.

You need to learn more about blockchain and how its going to change internet, Bitcoin is just first one.

Tb ap ro gey or me hansunga.

Trust me only one crying next year will be you. I already made many times over what I invested in 3 months. If tomorrow bitcoin goes to 0 it will not affect me apart from sad fact that I will not become crypto millionaire which is my goal.

 

[DJ_Viper]

I follow the news, bitcoin was not stolen from personal wallets but from mining company, who knows what the truth is. Bitcoin in personal wallet is more secure then money in safest bank in the world. And in hardware wallet its impossible for anyone else but you to access even if you wanted someone else to access from far away.

Its making lots of money to people. As I said I got in 3 months ago, best decision ever. People like you who FUD because thinking they missed the boat, think again...

BTW bitcoin isn't only currency, you can make huge gains by investing in good ICOs. Last week I invested just $740 in Wabi ICO, week later that turned in to $6000.

I brought Hextracoin for $200 sold for 0.56 bitcoin which is $10k now.... can give you many examples. You must be thinking why I didn't get more, well because its was near impossible to get in the first place. Got it after trying many days. I can convert bitcoin in to fiat any time. But this world is just starting, its like internet in 90's. We are not even in buble phase. You think 2017 was big? Wait by end of 2018...

winner



This isn't how it work dear. It all depend on market cap of particular coin. Ether made like 100x gains this year compared to bitcoin 20x.

There are coins with hardly in supply yet are worth less then those with billions of supply...



Exactly, looks like viper the resident economist and investor on PDF doesn't have even basic idea how it all works.

I stopped reading when the book above got personal where people like you, with 5K investment tell people like us that we "missed out"! I know this business since Bitcoin was $10. That was about 7-8 years ago I think. Don't worry about ranting further.

When I post something, unless I have direct experience in that, I don't open my mouth as it takes a minute to know how much someone really knows. Tiny little investors with 5K or 10K in these things are meaningless. People have made billions and have exited. The Wall street term for that is 'smart money".

'Highly Speculative Asset.' The Fed Chair Just Issued a Stark Warning About Bitcoin "

I said exactly what the US Fed Chief / Chair says about the Digital Currency. You or anyone else, do not have any credentials that come close to Miss. Yellen. Like I said, no need for more silly rants. I don't have time to teach little kids how the world of financials work.

http://fortune.com/2017/12/13/janet-yellen-bitcoin/

Right. These currencies are not worth portfolio.

Currently some gaints like microsoft, paypal and intuit are accepting bitcoins but while these electronically generated currencies are not under some kind of regulations or govt backing, this has made their values highly volatile but also attractive for investors to buy and sell without paying any tax.

You can't evade taxes. The brokers you deal with, report every transaction to the US government. Not paying tax....would mean the IRS will find you and every penny will be taxed and interest will be applied daily till the case is resolved. I know someone who tried something stupid like this with $ 45K and that was majority by mistake. He ended up putting a lien on his house and had to settle for $110K with the IRS. Do not try to avoid paying your fare share of taxes. The laws even allow the IRS to get to your kids if someone passed away and collect taxes from inheritance

Moreever, I think US govt will impose regulations for buying bitcoins in near future because such crypto currencies could be used for illegal trade or in criminal activities and these regulations would result in crash of its price and people are going to lose millions.

Yes, the big banks are already lobbying for it. You think JP Morgan, Citi and Fidelity,etc, with trillions in assets will simply be beaten to pulp by these Coins? The regulations are under progress and when applied soon, will become the major purpose of crashing of this entire Coin bubble. The only coins would be used by these largest banks. And they all have projects in house to create the dollar equivalent in Digital Coins. That would be adaptable much quicker and would raise their shares to ATH and will drop the coins to the lowest. Coins future, if not acquired by FDIC backed organizations, will primarily be used by black markets and some Chinese and offshore businesses trying to hide money.

XRP will be available in billion so the growth isn't there like the Bitcoin and Lite Coin is as these are limited. Long term, Ether would prevail more than others in my opinion.

You are wrong my friend.

You are wrong again my friend.

XRP gives you more earning than BTC.

I can prove it right here. I my self invest more in BTC than XRP but XRP returns are more than BTC and in the current trade XRP has more investors than any alt coins.

How much money are we talking about? 10K, 50K, 100K, 500K? This is penny for even small US institutes that invest

 

[BHarwana]

How much money are we talking about? 10K, 50K, 100K, 500K? This is penny for even small US institutes that invest

A penny less than a billion changes the name. I am shocked to see an American neglecting a cent. But penny is more British?

 

[Skull and Bones]

I mostly invest in ICOs, and return has been much higher than bitcoin so far.

 

[Kabira]

I stopped reading when the book above got personal where people like you, with 5K investment tell people like us that we "missed out"! I know this business since Bitcoin was $10. That was about 7-8 years ago I think. Don't worry about ranting further.

When I post something, unless I have direct experience in that, I don't open my mouth as it takes a minute to know how much someone really knows. Tiny little investors with 5K or 10K in these things are meaningless. People have made billions and have exited. The Wall street term for that is 'smart money".

'Highly Speculative Asset.' The Fed Chair Just Issued a Stark Warning About Bitcoin "

I said exactly what the US Fed Chief / Chair says about the Digital Currency. You or anyone else, do not have any credentials that come close to Miss. Yellen. Like I said, no need for more silly rants. I don't have time to teach little kids how the world of financials work.

http://fortune.com/2017/12/13/janet-yellen-bitcoin/

Hit a nerve there, as I said you don't even understand basic token metrics, supply and market cap of coins. You are just wannabe stupid investor, you may have heard of bitcoin back then but I doubt you have any in your wallet right now lol

$160k portfolio and growing. Started with $30k initial investment 3 months ago.

I mostly invest in ICOs, and return has been much higher than bitcoin so far.

What was your recent investment in ICOs? Mine was Wabi which is already 8x in few days. Have taken out initial investment and some profit, still have 75% of tokens.

Others have been POWR, Quantsamp, Comsa, Request, Cobinhood, Aion which have been great. Airswap and Enjin have not given much returns but funny thing I didn't loss anything even in my worst ICO investment so far.

I take that back, I invested 4 ether in REAL which has been by far worst ICO. Still holding so hopefully next year they will turn around. That was one of my first investments as noob when I started looking in to 3 months ago. I like to forgot about it. lol

 

[Skull and Bones]

What was your recent investment in ICOs? Mine was Wabi which is already 8x in few days. Have taken out initial investment and some profit, still have 75% of tokens.

Others have been POWR, Quantsamp, Comsa, Request, Cobinhood, Aion which have been great. Airswap and Enjin have not given much returns but funny thing I didn't loss anything even in my worst ICO investment so far.

I take that back, I invested 4 ether in REAL which has been by far worst ICO. Still holding so hopefully next year they will turn around. That was one of my first investments as noob when I started looking in to 3 months ago. I like to forgot about it. lol

My biggest payout was Electroneum, still ‘hodl’ing it, 700% up since inception in the past one month.

Cybermiles, up 400% in a month.

Crypterium, it hasn’t hit the exchange yet and still in ico stage. I have invested in it when bitcoin was at 6500, and 1 CRPT token is 0.0001 BTC, and bought that at 20% discount. So 350% up in my initial investment.

Another one is BinaryCoin, it’s having some issues. Hopefully will be the biggest gainer in my portfolio.