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Crimes against Women in Pakistan

Unfortunately, in our subcontinent, it is.. These phenomenon can not be delinked from the culture and geography. Figures from western nations do not apply here. As per US numbers, even sexual harrasement at work place is also no longer a gender issue as the number of cases of women bosses exploiting male subordinates is increasing every day.. Ever heard of that in our area??

:lol::lol:

Female World Order :yahoo:

BTW i never heard of such thing :what:
 
I agree with Karan that we are in sub continent not in USA & we do have 'social factors'


Domestic violence

A monitoring exercise conducted by the law firm AGHS shows that from April to June this year, 122 cases of women being burnt were reported in Lahore. Of them, 21 women had acid burns while the rest were injured by direct exposure to flames. Forty victims died. Disturbingly, the figures have doubled as compared to the first quarter of the year. These cases constitute merely the tip of the frightening iceberg of violence against Pakistan’s women. The figures reported above apply to Lahore but are unlikely to be lower in other parts of the country. Indeed, one wonders how many cases go unreported. The forms of coercion range from emotional and economic abuse to gross violations of constitutional and human rights, including rape, burning and being handed over as settlement in disputes. Last year, at least two women were believed to have been buried alive in Balochistan. That a sitting parliamentarian defended the act as a ‘tribal custom’ reflects just how endemic violence against women has become in the country.

It is important to note that much of the violence against women, particularly in the domestic sphere, goes unreported. Legislation in this regard, meanwhile, has been indefensibly slow. Work on formulating a bill at the federal level against domestic violence was first initiated in December 2006. Two private members’ bills were combined and approved by the National Assembly’s standing committee on women’s development in April 2007. The assembly’s term lapsed before the bill could be passed, however. In March this year, the National Assembly’s standing committee on women’s development unanimously approved the Prevention of Domestic Violence Bill 2008. But little further progress has been reported so far.

That violence against women continues to rise is perhaps symptomatic of the steady brutalisation that Pakistani society has suffered over the past many decades. It is imperative that effective legislation be devised to not only protect women against abuse, both domestic and otherwise, but also bring the persecutors to book. Treating violence against women, including domestic abuse, as a crime will give protection to victims in meaningful terms.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Domestic violence
 
Once i was reading a novel of Umaira Ahmed , i liked it alot .. its summary was.

Men even after terribly loosing do not want to accept their defeat and bow their head and OTOH Women even after wining do not wish to stand up for that achievement ..!
Thats the scenario in Pakistan . I mean our women in every house are some how going through some kind of victimization on daily basis . Not to speak of the honor Killings where Girls are murdered by their own family members just for the crime of marrying their loved ones ...
 
I've no doubt that women can be physically violent. I've no doubt that they can be verbally abusive. Personally, however, short of a woman pulling a gun on me NOTHING can stop me from leaving the house if she becomes out of control.

Further, it is the ONLY thing that will keep a man from spending a night in jail (if not more). OUR job, were that to happen, is to get away as quickly as possible. Physical self defense is an absolute last resort.

Never marry a girl that's bigger and faster than you.:agree:

Never criticize another until you've walked a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.:tup:

Thanks.:usflag:
 
What I am saying is that while it is the subcontinent, I have come across plenty of women that could be compared to western women in terms of attitude. So there will be less domestic violence started by women, however there is probably enough to make into a non-gender issue.

Further, it is the ONLY thing that will keep a man from spending a night in jail (if not more). OUR job, were that to happen, is to get away as quickly as possible. Physical self defense is an absolute last resort.

I disagree. If a woman hits you, you have the right to hit her back with the same force as she hit you. Whether or not you choose to do is another matter. Best thing would be to warn the first time and walk away the second. Women are let to get away with things way too often. I see lot of men trying to find excuses for women's bad behaviour. There's almost no accountability on their part.
 
Asim,

You know the answer-MEN must fight for these women. I'm in touch with a woman's rights activist in Pakistan but she doesn't live there and I don't know how much she can do however often she's in and out of the country.

Women are Pakistan's greatest untapped resource and finest hope. They represent all that is good and hopeful in this world and wipe clean the dirt with one smile. Without them we are lost and they are the light of our day-our mothers, sisters, lovers, and wives.

I've had a weekend of heartbreak for Pakistan in ways that I can't convey right up to this moment and nearly all of it has involved a Pakistani woman. I pray that the men of your country stand up to each and every beast you see as you see it. The defense of your country starts with defending women and their right to dignity and a voice that will be heard and respected even when not agreed.

I know you understand this and my words aren't directed to you in the least. Great post, my friend and your words added much value.

Thanks.:usflag:

You had a weekend of heart break, dude, it sound like crocodile tears to me as u are trying to ignore the facts and dump only on Pakistani men, Read on dude.

http://www.un.org/rights/dpi1772e.htm

Rape statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I have noticed Pakistan is one of those countries making good progress in women's rights, especially during the Musharraf era.

We have the same women's suffrage rights as any other western country, tons and tons of women in Pakistan's government [most notably our defense analysts], the first women to lead an Islamic Republic, our first astronaut was a woman and we have an 'eye for an eye' policy for those who think dumping acid on a woman is the right thing to do.

And my favorite, women are now taking more part in media, social activities, debates, discussions, politics and DEFENSE!

Thank you Mr. Musharraf!

We still have a long way to go, but we can do it. :D
 
Start with:
1. Shelter for battered women; I hear these are hard to find in Pakistan.
2. Protection.
3. Access to mental health facility to rehabilitate psychologically damaged victims.
4. The means for battered women to support themselves.
 
Start with:
1. Shelter for battered women; I hear these are hard to find in Pakistan.
2. Protection.
3. Access to mental health facility to rehabilitate psychologically damaged victims.
4. The means for battered women to support themselves.

Americans could invest their energies and resources in the above than wars, better way hearts and minds of people.

trillions have been spent on wars, if fraction of it had been spent on this, would have definitively won the hearts and minds.
 
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Aqnd Americans should invest their energies in this rather than wars, better way hearts and minds of people.

We have and continue to do so, go to the USAID website and see for yourself.
 
I have noticed Pakistan is one of those countries making good progress in women's rights, especially during the Musharraf era.

We have the same women's suffrage rights as any other western country, tons and tons of women in Pakistan's government [most notably our defense analysts], the first women to lead an Islamic Republic, our first astronaut was a woman and we have an 'eye for an eye' policy for those who think dumping acid on a woman is the right thing to do.

And my favorite, women are now taking more part in media, social activities, debates, discussions, politics and DEFENSE!

Thank you Mr. Musharraf!

We still have a long way to go, but we can do it. :D
One of the things about Musharraf's era was that already liberal women got a chance to come out into the open. The women that belong to a certain oppressed class, nothing was changed there. He just didn't want to butt in and Butt in we must!
 
"I disagree. If a woman hits you, you have the right to hit her back with the same force as she hit you."

Do that in the states and you'll end up in jail 99.9% of the time. Cops are NOT going to take the time to unfcuk a very real "he said, she said".

Woman hits you then catch a clue and get out of the house and OUT of the relationship. Run, don't walk btw...

Thanks.:usflag:
 
I think a lot of violence against women is the result of the huge gender gap in terms of education and economic power.

Gender gaps are among the widest in South Asia. Pakistan is ranked at 132, third from the bottom on a list of 134 nations compiled by the World Economic Forum for 2009. The 2009 ranking represents a slip of five places in the Global Gender Gap Index 2009 from 127th spot to 132nd from among 134 countries, showing an "absolute decline relative to its performance in 2008."

Only Chad and Yemen rank worse than Pakistan this year. This is not a surprise considering one of the lowest female literacy rates in Pakistan. Pakistan's gender gap of 27% in literacy is worse than India's 22%. At overall literacy rate of only 52%, and with more than 50 million people illiterate, Pakistan has one of the lowest overall literacy rates in Asia. The literacy rate for males over 15 years is 63% while that for females is 36% in Pakistan. Only Yemen's literacy gender gap is worse than South Asia's.

In spite of the grim picture painted by the WEF, the status of women in Pakistan, and the rest of South Asia, continues to vary considerably across different classes, regions, and the rural/urban divide due to uneven socioeconomic development and the impact of tribal, feudal, and urban social customs on women's lives. While some women are soaring in the skies as pilots of passenger jets and supersonic fighter planes, others are being buried or burned alive for defying traditions. Girls now account for 53% of all college students in Pakistan, according to the 2005 Education Census.

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I disagree. If a woman hits you, you have the right to hit her back with the same force as she hit you. Whether or not you choose to do is another matter. Best thing would be to warn the first time and walk away the second. Women are let to get away with things way too often. I see lot of men trying to find excuses for women's bad behaviour. There's almost no accountability on their part.


How do you judge that its the same amount of force?
Simple rule, if you are going to hit some one because you are angry its time to walk away, it doesnt matter who started what and who is right. Perhaps i am lucky that i have spent much of my life with women that could rip off your arm and beat you to death with the wet end.

With respect Asim i realise you wish the thread to concentrate on the problems for Pakistani women but i do feel the problem is universal. Men need to learn women are people not objects but the education of a nation takes time.
What we can do is raise our daughters to be confident in them selves so they do not become traped in a cycle of violence because they some how feel they deserve it or it is their fault.
Teach them to defend them selves at least to the stage where they can escape the situation.
 
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