Crimea Declares Indipendence from Ukraine !!!

[LordTyrannus]

Iran is part of the west. We need you and your government is funded from west. Without Iran no excuse for funding israel. I think the ayatollah is even in bed with israel. its just show

Germany and europeans searching desperatly for alternative energy sources. LMAO

 

[MarkusS]

Germany and europeans searching desperatly for alternative energy sources. LMAO

what? I find it funny that you want us so desperatly as enemies.

 

[F117]

Germany and europeans searching desperatly for alternative energy sources. LMAO

They can't. We used to supply Europe with gas, but after the sanctions they started getting addicted to Russia. There are no viable alternatives.

However, they are now talking about shipping liquefied natural gas from America to Europe, but that will take years to implement.

 

[MarkusS]

They can't. We used to supply Europe with gas, but after the sanctions they started getting addicted to Russia. There are no viable alternatives.

However, they are now talking about shipping liquefied natural gas from America to Europe, but that will take years to implement.

this is laughable as well, the amount of gas we ordered from Iran was not even more than 5% on its peak.

 

[LordTyrannus]

what? I find it funny that you want us so desperatly as enemies.

Soon everyone will be enemy of everyone. When world resources like freshWater become more expensive than oil. It will be a matter of survival.

They can't. We used to supply Europe with gas, but after the sanctions they started getting addicted to Russia. There are no viable alternatives.

However, they are now talking about shipping liquefied natural gas from America to Europe, but that will take years to implement.

The New Order will start with a staged Energy crisis.

 

[nangyale]

To all the people who say that Russia will be sanctioned or can sanctioned. I would like them to answer the following points.

• There are 160 billion dollars invested by Russia in the West. There are 248 billion dollars invested by the West in Russia. Sanctions anybody?
• Russia still has the option of shutting down the NATO route to withdraw US forces from Afghanistan. This is an option with Russia did not exercise over the war in Syria, but which it will almost certainly exercise in case of a NATO intervention in the Ukraine. Sanctions anybody?
• The US is offering to sell its shale gas to Europe, which would be extremely costly as the infrastructure to do that would need to be built and it would take anywhere between 2 to 4 years to be ready for a first shipment. Sanctions anybody?
• Mikhail Dobkin, the ex-governor of Kharkov who had resigned to run for President has been kidnapped by the insurgent and is held incommunicado in Kiev. This is the second Russian leader in the eastern Ukraine to be kidnapped by the insurgents and this raises some painful questions about the degree of organization and planning of the Russian-speaking resistant in the eastern Ukraine.
• Ramzan Kadyrov, the President of Chechnia, has announced that he was ready to send Chechen forces to Crimea to fight any "shaitans" (devils) in Crimea.

@TurAr @MarkusS

 

[Arzamas 16]

We gave them an association treaty and that alone was enough to make them riot against russia. We won´t pay them debts nor will we give them EU membership. Thats the reality. We will give them acess to economy and thats it. Beside that, stop personal insults. It just belittles yourself.

Oh I beg to differ

The European Union is ready to help Ukraine repay its debt for Russian gas supplies, EU Energy Commissioner Gunther Oettinger has said. "Payment of the outstanding Ukraine bills is high up in the European Commission's aid package," Western media quoted him as saying on Tuesday.

Gunther Oettinger: EU ready to help Ukraine repay its debt for Russian gas

 

[LordTyrannus]

Germans will pay us with Euros. Work faster, Germans!

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

come on man........mullah ka bas chale to Aliens to b musalmanon ka dushman declare kar de...

You have not read the history of crimean tatars, they are reduced to such tiny minority by genocidal policies of russia. Russia occupied this muslim state in 18th century, before that it was vassal state of ottoman empire.

 

[temujin]

The decision has already been made to absorb Crimea into the Russian federation, according to some undisclosed Kremlin source quoted in this article (Gazeta.ru is usually quite credible).Declaration of independence appears to have been merely part of the bigger plan. The process is expected to be complete by March end if this is to be believed

Крым войдет в состав России в качестве республики - Газета.Ru | Политика

Google translation

Tacit decision on the annexation of Crimea to Russia has been taken at the highest level in the Kremlin, according to sources of "Gazety.Ru". Crimea, is likely to be adopted in the Russian Federation as a republic, which will use the two official languages: Russian and Crimean Tatar.

On Tuesday, the Supreme Council of Crimea took an unexpected decision at first reading: a declaration of independence. According to official reports, spoke in support of the document 78 of 81 MPs who took part in the vote.

The declaration reads: if in the referendum on March 16 residents of the republic express a desire to join Russia, Crimea will be declared "independent and sovereign state with a republican form of government." After this, the new"independent and sovereign state" will appeal to Russia to join its territory as a new subject.

The basis for this will be Russian-Crimean interstate agreement.

The preamble to the Declaration of the Crimean parliament cite provisions of the UN Charter "and a number of other international instruments recognizing the right of peoples to self-determination", as well as the decision of the International Court of Justice on Kosovo from July 22, 2010, according to which the Declaration of Independence, adopted in Kosovo authorities in 2008, did not violate international law. So, sending a clear signal, the authors of the Declaration of Independence of the Crimea, state it also does not violate international law.

This step has a clear goal, and solves two problems.

First - by tying the declaration of independence of the Crimea to the results of the referendum Moscow, according to a source close to the Kremlin, will demonstrate to the West under what scheme it intends to proceed. Second - if the Crimean plebiscite decides on accession to Russia, and then the republic declares 8tself "an independent and sovereign state", which has the right to enter into international agreements, the Russiasn do not have to change domestic legislation relating to the formation of new subjects of the Federation.

As already reported by "Times", the current Russian legislation provides for the adoption of the new subject of Russia only in one case: if there is a relevant international agreement. Obviously, neither the current Ukrainian government whose legitimacy Moscow has not recognized or any future president of Ukraine, would never initiate the agreement for the "transfer" of the Crimea. That is why the Russian parliamentarians began to generate ideas on how to avoid potential treaties with Kiev.

About two weeks ago, the leader of "Fair Russia" party Sergei Mironov introduced to the State Duma a bill under which "land" of another state can be incorporated into Russia in the absence of relevant international agreements. The basis for the accession of new territories, according to Mironov, could be either the result of a referendum on the "disconnected" territory or state authorities handling these "lands" to Russia to accede.

Novels Mironov does not seem useful.

Through the self-proclaimed independence of the Crimea and the possible recognition of the new state by Moscow, Russia would avoid the need to change its own legislation. Kremlin logic is that Crimea as an independent state, can directly conclude means that a treaty of accession to Russia. The question is whether the Russian leadership has made the decision to join a yet Ukrainian sovereign territory to the Russian Federation.

"The decision is made - definitely yes," - says a source close to the Kremlin.

"The declaration of independence and linking it with the results of the referendum is a clear signal that the fundamental scenario in Moscow is one of Crimea's accession. This is precisely the ultimate goal "- said another interviewee to" Gazety.Ru ".

About the time period during which Moscow may formally decide on joining Crimea to Russia, opinions diverge among sources. "The goal is to resolve this issue before the end of March," - said the source close to the presidential administration. Another source in the government, in contrast, argues that no timetable has been established. But I'm sure no one wants to delay the final decision, said another source close to the Kremlin.

"Scenario of Abkhazia and South Ossetia was different: Crimea still has our Black Sea Fleet."

According to the sources, Crimea is likely to be admitted to the Russian as a republic. And since republics, under the Constitution, are entitled to establish their own official languages, it is planned that Crimea will have two such languages: Russian and Crimean Tatar.

 

[MarkusS]

Soon everyone will be enemy of everyone. When world resources like freshWater become more expensive than oil. It will be a matter of survival.



The New Order will start with a staged Energy crisis.

Good then that Europe has no waterproblem, thanks to our geography. The only areas that have shortage of water is spain and portugal. Europe is one of water richest continents next to south america.

Oh I beg to differ




Gunther Oettinger: EU ready to help Ukraine repay its debt for Russian gas

Thats the typical EU bla bla for help. You want know how this help looks like then ask greece. worthless guarantees plus austerity plus high interest rates.

Germans will pay us with Euros. Work faster, Germans!

Faster? I have this week free.

Beside that we never pay anything. We give worthless guarantees and take money in return as interest rates.

 

[doublemaster]

What i understand from this is.
1. If a simple difference like this, Pro- Europe or Pro-Russia can cause difference and break country, Then India is great. And who ruled India also great.
2. Once identity take more precedence than nationalism. For example, Pro-Russian people think that thats their identity and they are ready to join Russia and break away from their own country if it doesn't respect.
3. Boundary are not permanent.

 

[Azeri440]

• Russia still has the option of shutting down the NATO route to withdraw US forces from Afghanistan. ]

uhmm no it doesn't

 

[audi]

For a second i read that as "China declared independence from ukraine" and i was like wtf lolll

 

[Parul]

Dont shit your pants, we are not germans we dont kill war prisoners.

kakogo xrena vi vzoimodeystvovali s etoy italyanskoy Moron ,kto ne vedyot tu je igru ,,igraya tu je zapis snova i snova!