CPC proposes change on Chinese president's term in Constitution

[ddlee96969]

Learn from Indonesia. We have 2 presidents who serve for a very long time. The first one was Soekarno, and the second one was Soeharto. Soeharto even ruled for 32 years. And do you know what happen at the end? It was always end with chaos. The Soekarno era ended with G-30S PKI. I don't know what really happen at that time, but it was full of chaos and violent. While Soeharto era ended with '98 (you all know about it, don't you?).

I think, if Xi Jingping really want to extend his term, then it must be Putin that give him the inspiration. Maybe because of his anti corruption campaign, Xi has a lot of enemy in CCP, so he can't step down before CCP is truly clean, as it will be very dangerous to stop before it finish (I don't know), or maybe he just greedy.

But hopefully, even if he extend his term, it's not more than 3, or it will become a time bomb for China. Just like what happen in Indonesia. If that bomb exploded, You won't know how big is the damage that it will cause to China.

that is what i worry about. you are right xi has a lot of enemy because of anti-corruption. xi probably will be next putin but mao. anyway xi destroyed the political tradition.

 

[sweetgrape]

You talk about the horrors of dictatorship, and yet you hope China will wage a war to extend Xi's term? Isn't that the worst horror of a dictatorship? Waging a war and fanning nationalistic sentiments to extend one's personal political lifespan?

First, I not mean Xi is dictator, of course, for most foreigners, you think China is ruled by Dictator, because China is not democratic nation. If Xi can solve Taiwan issue and South Sea issue through a war, for you it is horror, but for China, it is good in long term. If China announce non-use of force on unifying Taiwan and taking back SCS islands, do you think they can back voluntarily?

In fact, I don't like talking about so-called dictatorship or democracy, all these sh!t seems defined by you, which is better? Chinese Leaders are much better than most of leaders from other countries, the leaders from many so-called democratic countries are sh!t, can't solve anythings. Why Singapore can be rich and advanced, because you have a smart "dictator", why Japan and Korea can rise, also because their dictators built good base for later development.

In the world, so-called democratic nations bring most of wars to the world!

 

[Mista]

First, I not mean Xi is dictator, of course, for most foreigners, you think China is ruled by Dictator, because China is not democratic nation. If Xi can solve Taiwan issue and South Sea issue through a war, for you it is horror, but for China, it is good in long term. If China announce don't non-use of force on unifying Taiwan and take back SCS islands, do you think they can back voluntarily?

In fact, I don't like talking about so-called dictatorship or democracy, all these sh!t seems defined by you, which is better? Chinese Leaders are much better than most of leaders from other countries, the leaders from many so-called democratic countries are sh!t, can't solve anythings. Why Singapore can be rich and advanced, because you have a smart "dictator", why Japan and Korea can rise, also because their dictators built good base for later development.

In the world, so-called democratic nations bring most of war to the world!

I'm a foreigner, but not the clueless foreigner who automatically equate non-democratic countries as a dictatorship. China is not a dictatorship since Mao, not even Deng. It's an authoritarian state with collective leadership.

I disagree with you that it's good for the long term if you go to war with Taiwan. Even if you win, how are you going to govern a populace that just went a war against you? Martial law? It's going to be a deep scar in the people's mind.

Singapore isn't a dictatorship. We are an authoritarian democracy, a hybrid system. And I don't believe democracy automatically brings progress, especially for a developing country.

 

[sweetgrape]

No, no I don't think it will gone through like u say, I was Indonesian Chinese so I probably not 'get in touch' with what happen in China. But I don't think China after this constitution issue will wage war regarding Taiwan or her neighbor, I don't think there is war in Xi agenda, seems he wasn't type of hawkish or something like that, seems his concern mainly only building China in and out. Economic project that initiated by China was opposite of war. This is my personal opinion only, I might wrong also.

Maybe, but Xi of course a smart hawkish, of course he personally don't show that, not need talk tough words to show how tough he is, not like indian stupid leaders, just talking too much and tough words.

When China economy develop to certain phase, the influence will extend to other countries and disctrict, and political influence too, some issues which can't solved before need to deal with, can't delay, like Taiwan and SCS issue, China is worldwide country, to protect its own benefit, must do something, maybe these action may damage the benefit of others( of course, many countries always damage our benefit, why should China think for their benefit?). these issues can't be delay endlessly. I hope they are be solved peacefully, but Vietnam will retreat from these islands which occupied by force unconditionally? Taiwan separatist will? I don't see them are Chinese.

I'm a foreigner, but not the clueless foreigner who automatically equate non-democratic countries as a dictatorship. China is not a dictatorship since Mao, not even Deng. It's an authoritarian state with collective leadership.

I disagree with you that it's good for the long term if you go to war with Taiwan. Even if you win, how are you going to govern a populace that just went a war against you? Martial law? It's going to be a deep scar in the people's mind.

Singapore isn't a dictatorship. We are an authoritarian democracy, a hybrid system. And I don't believe democracy automatically brings progress, especially for a developing country.

So how to unify Taiwan? endlessly negotiation?

Taiwanese are Chinese too, even there are war between Mainland and Taiwan, we just attack separatist and armed force, maybe some innocent populace be damaged, but after that, I believe that most can understand it is good for whole Chinese in long term, if Taiwan independent, it is a disatar to 1.4 billon Chinese and China. be a complete chess pieces of anti-China Force, destiny of Taiwan is decided by all Chinese, not by 20 million Taiwanese, they don't want to be unified, can go out, we don't stop them. a unifed Taiwan will be richer and stronger.

 

[艹艹艹]

Vladimir Putin？
Angela Merkel？
Lee Kuan Yew？
Franklin D. Roosevelt？
Shinzo Abe？
Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko

？？？？？

 

[Jlaw]

這是中國內的議題。無需以說在外國的網站。@Sweetgrape

 

[Mista]

Maybe, but Xi of course a smart hawkish, of course he personally don't show that, not need talk tough words to show how tough he is, not like indian stupid leaders, just talking too much and tough words.

When China economy develop to certain phase, the influence will extend to other countries and disctrict, and political influence too, some issues which can't solved before need to deal with, can't delay, like Taiwan and SCS issue, China is worldwide country, to protect its own benefit, must do something, maybe these action may damage the benefit of others( of course, many countries always damage our benefit, why should China think for their benefit?). these issues can't be delay endlessly. I hope they are be solved peacefully, but Vietnam will retreat from these islands which occupied by force unconditionally? Taiwan separatist will? I don't see them are Chinese.


So how to unify Taiwan? endlessly negotiation?

Taiwanese are Chinese too, even there are war between Mainland and Taiwan, we just attack separatist and armed force, maybe some innocent populace be damaged, but after that, I believe that most can understand it is good for whole Chinese in long term, if Taiwan independent, it is a disatar to 1.4 billon Chinese and China. be a complete chess pieces of anti-China Force, destiny of Taiwan is decided by all Chinese, not by 20 million Taiwanese, they don't want to be unified, can go out, we don't stop them. a unifed Taiwan will be richer and stronger.

First, improve the image of mainland Chinese among the Taiwanese populace first? No one will be interested in reunifying with you if you keep taking that hawkish and condescending attitude towards them, never mind how powerful you are.

 

[Dash]

Great move by Xi!! I like it.

 

[Viva_Viet]

First, I not mean Xi is dictator, of course, for most foreigners, you think China is ruled by Dictator, because China is not democratic nation. If Xi can solve Taiwan issue and South Sea issue through a war, for you it is horror, but for China, it is good in long term. If China announce don't non-use of force on unifying Taiwan and take back SCS islands, do you think they can back voluntarily?

In fact, I don't like talking about so-called dictatorship or democracy, all these sh!t seems defined by you, which is better? Chinese Leaders are much better than most of leaders from other countries, the leaders from many so-called democratic countries are sh!t, can't solve anythings. Why Singapore can be rich and advanced, because you have a smart "dictator", why Japan and Korea can rise, also because their dictators built good base for later development.

In the world, so-called democratic nations bring most of war to the h!

Why Sing,SK, JP raise ?? Cos they r US's dogs and dont get US's sanction like N.Korea dictator.

Dictactor Deng begged for JP-USs help in 1978, in exchange Deng accept US putting his chain around CN's neck ( keep selling weapons to TW). Deng can be called JP-US's maid

First, improve the image of mainland Chinese among the Taiwanese populace first? No one will be interested in reunifying with you if you keep taking that hawkish and condescending attitude towards them, never mind how powerful you are.

CN only "look" hawkish on internet while crawling around lake to save jobs in real life

 

[sweetgrape]

First, improve the image of mainland Chinese among the Taiwanese populace first? No one will be interested in reunifying with you if you keep taking that hawkish and condescending attitude towards them, never mind how powerful you are.

Which country get reunion through negotiation? just tell me, hehe.

Why can't reunifying first, then improve the image? in the world, only USA can solve something through its powerful force, some "kind" countries is useless. Singapore is pro-American is because they are "kind"?

Why Sing,SK, JP raise ?? Cos they r US's dogs and dont get US's sanction like N.Korea dictator.

Dictactor Deng begged for JP-USs help in 1978, in exchange Deng accept US putting his chain around CN's neck ( keep selling weapons to TW). Deng can be called JP-US's maid

CN only "look" hawkish on internet while crawling around lake to save jobs in real life

Need I prove China are stronger and richer than tiny Vienam? or prove PLA step on your lands and destroy you cities and factories? hit your boat but coward Vietnam men just hid behind women?

You kind of rubbish can't attract any eyes in the world, because you are nobody, can be bullied by China, France, Japan, China in turn, of course you can talk big how good you are, although your lands, cities and people are destroyed over and over.

 

[Mista]

Which country get reunion through negotiation? just tell me, hehe.

Why can't reunifying first, then improve the image? in the world, only USA can solve something through its powerful force, some "kind" countries is useless. Singapore is pro-American is because they are "kind"?

The Germans are reunited without going through a war.

It's easy to say when you're not Taiwanese or the one actually fighting the war, but one who's typing in his phone. Everything can be settled with a war theoretically isn't it?

Singapore is pro-America?

 

[sweetgrape]

The Germans are reunited without going through a war.

It's easy to say when you're not Taiwanese or the one actually fighting the war, but one who's typing in his phone. Everything can be settled with a war theoretically isn't it?

Singapore is pro-America?

If Soviet didn't collapse, do you think they can? so you mean China should wait for collapsion of America?

It is easy to say when you are not Chinese, for you, reunion of Taiwan can't influence you any more, but may get benefit from the discord between Mainland and Taiwan, of course, Singapore has got.

Did I say everthing can bu settled by a war? so war can't solve anything? hehe, this is not ideal world.

You are not pro-America?

 

[Mista]

If Soviet didn't collapse, do you think they can? so you mean China should wait for collapsion of America?

It is easy to say when you are not Chinese, for you, reunion of Taiwan can't influence you any more, but may get benefit from the discord between Mainland and Taiwan, of course, Singapore has got.

Did I say everthing can bu settled by a war? so war can't solve anything? hehe, this is not ideal world.

You are not pro-America?

So if you're the soldier going for the war, would you egg Xi into going a war with Taiwan?

No.

 

[dy1022]

Why these Foreigners are crying so loudly in here from left to right ???

They are afraid of Xi's China ???

Think about it!

 

[Viva_Viet]

Need I prove China are stronger and richer than tiny Vienam? or prove PLA step on your lands and destroy you cities and factories? hit your boat but coward Vietnam men just hid behind women?

You kind of rubbish can't attract any eyes in the world, because you are nobody, can be bullied by China, France, Japan, China in turn, of course you can talk big how good you are, although your lands, cities and people are destroyed over and over.

"Prove" whatever u like on PDF cos PDF cant be censorred by corrupted CPC, no one care. U cant predict when VN in chaos when we all know CN in chaos in 2023

Why these Foreigners are crying so loudly in here from left to right ???

They are afraid of Xi's China ???

Think about it!

Nope,its boring to just wait for chaos in CN till 2023, so, lets have some fun talk