Could Vietnam be in Play? the suitors for primacy would be the US and China

[EastSea]

Still you can't provide a definition of slave or Master, no wonder you're alway interpret the opposite way around , you don't have to repeat yourself if you're happy with your way of interpretation, nobody care.

You didn't said what you understand about definition of master and slave.

The master–slave is relation was formed in history of human kind in every where in the world in the past, including China. It's related to the development of self-consciousness as such in an encounter between what are thereby (i.e., emerging only from this encounter) two distinct, self-conscious beings; the essence of the dialectic is the movement or motion of recognizing, in which the two self-consciousnesses are constituted each in being recognized as self-conscious by the other.

You can understand it when you have been studied philosophic.

For easy to you understanding, I can say the example to China: When Mongolian and Manchus invaded in to China and ruled Chinese. Chinese recognized Mongolian and Manchus Emperor were your Kings, as "Golden Family". It's self-conscious by Chinese up to now. In other word: Mongolian and Manchus were Master and Chinese were slaves in the past.

So when U.S borrow money to England after WWII, their became England's obeidience servant?? You Vietnamese kids are so smart. You gorverment still learn 101 economy lesson from China and copy our way of economy reform .

Hey, very sad when you say it. It's different matter: Borrowing money is made base on discussion and agreement of both side, included stipulation to protect interest of both side like rate of exchange and price valuation, etc. China has been freely purchased bonds from FED. USA govt can do every thing to de-valuate his currency and lose will be born by you but can't say nothing.
I wonder about that many chinese boy troll on PDF that Vietnam copy from you, you are brain washed, I think. I can reminder you that in the past both China and Vietnam copied Stalin model in economy policy. China didn't invented nothing more other than changed the name like: " Gong she ren min" etc... And recently by open policy for economy, china do what Korea, Malaysia, India... has been made long time before.

I would like to have some Russians to comment on this, now a Vietnemese kid is trying to lecture on how was Soviet collapsed and how you explain when U.S still bullying other small nations and not collapse? still need 101 lesson about Geopolitic ?...as I said so many time Vietnamese like to bad mouth others and make false impression that they're alway right..and end up to be a losers in all aspect: economy, geopolitic, military.

Russian is best friend of Viet.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You didn't said what you understand about definition of master and slave.

The master–slave is relation was formed in history of human kind in every where in the world in the past, including China. It's related to the development of self-consciousness as such in an encounter between what are thereby (i.e., emerging only from this encounter) two distinct, self-conscious beings; the essence of the dialectic is the movement or motion of recognizing, in which the two self-consciousnesses are constituted each in being recognized as self-conscious by the other.
You can understand it when you have been studied philosophic.

Vietnamese way of self-consciousness, if you guys are so self-conscious then how explain your ancestors have been under Chinese rule for over millennium or should I said it’s genetic that Vietnameses have been got owned in the pass even you were so well aware of China?...lol your philosophy is just epic failed.

For easy to you understanding, I can say the example to China: When Mongolian and Manchus invaded in to China and ruled Chinese. Chinese recognized Mongolian and Manchus Emperor were your Kings, as "Golden Family". It's self-conscious by Chinese up to now. In other word: Mongolian and Manchus were Master and Chinese were slaves in the past.

Lol you should learn 101 historical lession about Mongolian and Manchurian, thanks to them we Chinese can claim Tibet and Xinjiang..so who serve whom?...without saying Inner Mongolia and Manchuria are part of China now...so we’re really enjoy to be the slaves . Same deal can be maded with Vietnam, try to conquer Phillipine for us then we will call you our master .

Hey, very sad when you say it. It's different matter: Borrowing money is made base on discussion and agreement of both side, included stipulation to protect interest of both side like rate of exchange and price valuation, etc. China has been freely purchased bonds from FED. USA govt can do every thing to de-valuate his currency and lose will be born by you but can't say nothing.

Sure U.S is free to do everything to de-valuate their money but we can do everything with their money that we hold to devaluate even further, you see the difference? when money become a political tool, we chinese like to have something to play with but I can't say the same about Vietnam, you don't have Greenpak to play with ..Saddam Hussein is well know to be adept of play with U.S dollard that has scare the hell of U.S and ultimately got himself killed.

I wonder about that many chinese boy troll on PDF that Vietnam copy from you, you are brain washed, I think. I can reminder you that in the past both China and Vietnam copied Stalin model in economy policy. China didn't invented nothing more other than changed the name like: " Gong she ren min" etc... And recently by open policy for economy, china do what Korea, Malaysia, India... has been made long time before.

China was communist, Korea, Malaysia and other were not: at that time we made the economical reform but not political, that how Russia failed because they thought that they could do better by reform the political system such “Perishtroika” and believe naively that they will earn favour from western countries but end up to be screwed. Learning from Soviet lession, Vietnam just followed our path to just reform economy but no politic...I don't expect you vietnamese to understand the geopolitical-economy, only manipulators such U.S China and Russia have a deep understanding , Vietnam is just a manipulated.

Russian is best friend of Viet.

Not doubt about it

 

[EastSea]

Vietnamese way of self-consciousness, if you guys are so self-conscious then how explain your ancestors have been under Chinese rule for over millennium or should I said it’s genetic that Vietnameses have been got owned in the pass even you were so well aware of China?...lol your philosophy is just epic failed.
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Not doubt about it

The difference self-consciousness is that, Chinese were considered as Aggressor, temporally invaded in to Vietnam and we wipped idiot invaders from our soil at the end. Chinese ran away with bloody head. It's clear.

Lol you should learn 101 historical lession about Mongolian and Manchurian, thanks to them we Chinese can claim Tibet and Xinjiang..so who serve whom?...without saying Inner Mongolia and Manchuria are part of China now...so we’re really enjoy to be the slaves . Same deal can be maded with Vietnam, try to conquer Phillipine for us then we will call you our master .

Good boy you admitted that you were slaves of Mongolian and Manchus and injoyed it, bravo. One more again complement for you slave of Mongolian and Manchus.

Sure U.S is free to do everything to de-valuate their money but we can do everything with their money that we hold to devaluate even further, you see the difference? when money become a political tool, we chinese like to have something to play with but I can't say the same about Vietnam, you don't have Greenpak to play with ..Saddam Hussein is well know to be adept of play with U.S dollard that has scare the hell of U.S and ultimately got himself killed.

Yes, you are smart boy, Chinese corruption officials has been taken way from China huge amount of green pack to western countries and USA as political tool and their children, relatives became US citizens like Deng's son.

Corruption In China: How Public Officials Took $120 Billion And Fled Overseas

China was communist, Korea, Malaysia and other were not: at that time we made the economical reform but not political, that how Russia failed because they thought that they could do better by reform the political system such “Perishtroika” and believe naively that they will earn favour from western countries but end up to be screwed. Learning from Soviet lession, Vietnam just followed our path to just reform economy but no politic...I don't expect you vietnamese to understand the geopolitical-economy, only manipulators such U.S China and Russia have a deep understanding , Vietnam is just a manipulated.

Dictatorship in China is no different in nature of interest from other dictators in South Korea or other country like UMNO in malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia. It's simply that Viet communist has been fought again France, USA and China to independence, they didn't simply give up his power. It no need to learn from China. Only look around in region they know it very well how he can do. But Putin has his characters there are more communist than other fake communist as well.
geopolitical-economy with Chinese is leadership is nothing more than make money and go to western countries in fearing that Chinese people will do new revolution.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The difference self-consciousness is that, Chinese were considered as Aggressor, temporally invaded in to Vietnam and we wipped idiot invaders from our soil at the end. Chinese ran away with bloody head. It's clear.

But after your so call self-consciousness, you still couldn’t overcome your problem, even today you need to sent S.O.S signal throughout the world looking for help to counter us.

Good boy you admitted that you were slaves of Mongolian and Manchus and injoyed it, bravo. One more again complement for you slave of Mongolian and Manchus.

No problem, our face is thicker than wall, call us slave but having more 60% of land for Chineses is well worth...we’re not kid you to be occupied by other powers without getting anything as reward.

Yes, you are smart boy, Chinese corruption officials has been taken way from China huge amount of green pack to western countries and USA as political tool and their children, relatives became US citizens like Deng's son.
Corruption In China: How Public Officials Took $120 Billion And Fled Overseas

Lol smart kid is trying to derail the discussion, sure corruption is Chinese favourite pass time since millennium and will continue in the future but that didn’t prevent China to be strong. But the uncorrupted Vietnameses have made as Vietnam as it was in the pass...it’s that genetic?

Dictatorship in China is no different in nature of interest from other dictators in South Korea or other country like UMNO in malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia. It's simply that Viet communist has been fought again France, USA and China to independence, they didn't simply give up his power. It no need to learn from China. Only look around in region they know it very well how he can do. But Putin has his characters there are more communist than other fake communist as well.
geopolitical-economy with Chinese is leadership is nothing more than make money and go to western countries in fearing that Chinese people will do new revolution.

try to derail the discussion once again...if you have no arguments then don’t try to fill up the page with something else...LMAO, that will make you even look ridiculous.

 

[EastSea]

But after your so call self-consciousness, you still couldn’t overcome your problem, even today you need to sent S.O.S signal throughout the world looking for help to counter us.



No problem, our face is thicker than wall, call us slave but having more 60% of land for Chineses is well worth...we’re not kid you to be occupied by other powers without getting anything as reward.



Lol smart kid is trying to derail the discussion, sure corruption is Chinese favourite pass time since millennium and will continue in the future but that didn’t prevent China to be strong. But the uncorrupted Vietnameses have made as Vietnam as it was in the pass...it’s that genetic?



try to derail the discussion once again...if you have no arguments then don’t try to fill up the page with something else...LMAO, that will make you even look ridiculous.

You have your best comment on PDF, yes, your face is thicker than wall, not normal wall, its Great wall.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

You have your best comment on PDF, yes, your face is thicker than wall, not normal wall, its Great wall.

And the great wall has brought Chinese civilization beyond our frontier.