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Donetsk, Ukraine (CNN) -- "Donetsk is a Russian city." The chant rang out in the eastern Ukrainian city on Saturday, as thousands of pro-Russia demonstrators rallied beneath a towering statue of Soviet revolutionary Vladimir Lenin in the city's main square.

They waved Russian flags and red flags emblazoned with the iconic image of Argentinian Marxist Che Guevara.

There was not a single Ukrainian flag to be seen.

"They are frightened," said local journalist Denis Kazansky of pro-Ukraine protestors. "They will not come out and demonstrate."

That's because just three days earlier, Lenin Square was the scene of violent clashes that left a 22-year-old, pro-Ukrainian activist dead.

A floral tribute is the only evidence that remains of the bloodshed that unfolded Thursday night when a police cordon that stood between rival groups was breached.

The tribute appeared a lonely site on Saturday as thousands of pro-Russia protesters stood with their backs to it. Their focus turned to a platform beneath the Lenin statue, where men and women took turns making their case for a referendum on the right to self-determination.

Among the demonstrators was Vladimir Kosolapov, a local leader for the Communist Party in Ukraine. He told us that people in this eastern pocket of Ukraine supported the idea of federalism.

"We need more independence from Kiev for our region. Most people here don't think that power in Kiev is legitimate."

In the region, 48% are ethnic Russians and 46% are ethnic Ukrainian. Most speak Russian as their first language and feel closer historic ties to Moscow than Kiev.

"I am a citizen of Ukraine," said Kosolapov. "I have the opportunity to leave Ukraine and go to Russia to my friends and relations but I don't want to go. I will not leave here because this is my home. My family is here. This is my parents' native land."

While those who support the new government in Kiev have only been holding sporadic rallies in Donetsk, pro-Russian demonstrators have a more permanent presence in Lenin Square. They have set up red tents from where they call for volunteers to join self-defense units and invite people to sign a petition and answer three questions.

People queue to have their say beneath the Russian flags.

Do you support a Customs Union? Yes. This is a trade agreement between Russia and some of the former Soviet republics.

Do you want Russian to be an official language? Yes.

Should Ukraine be a member of NATO? No.

The local council had tried to ban any further demonstrations this weekend following the bloodshed on Thursday, but the Donetsk District Court rejected the request, saying there was no evidence of any danger to the public.

Indeed, the rally in Lenin Square was peaceful on Saturday, though the demonstrators did bring traffic to a standstill when they decided to march through the streets and take their protest to the offices of the SBU, the Ukraine Security Services, which is loyal to Kiev.

As riot police stood guard at the building entrance, the demonstrators called for the release of Pavel Gubarev, one of the leaders of the pro-Moscow protest movement who was arrested by the SBU on March 6, for leading a blockade at the regional administration building.

There were reports of some property damage, but the demonstration did not escalate further.

But it won't be an end to the pro-Russian fervor in Donetsk. Police were poised for more of the same with another major rally planned on Sunday in a show of support for the referendum in Crimea.

Many in Donetsk want the same.

Could Donetsk go in the same way as Crimea? - CNN.com
 
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Sort of like the Texan revolution and independence from Mexico then annexation by the US, first revolution and independence from Ukraine then annexation by Russia. Russia will supply arms. 8-)

After the annexation of Crimea, European Russia only has 13,000 square kilometers to go to reach 4 million square kilometers. :p:

Ukraine's east on fire: Kharkov demands referendum, Donetsk prosecutor’s HQ stormed — RT News

East Ukraine and south Ukraine are the most pro Russia regions of Ukraine.

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Entire eastern Ukraine will go like that

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin drew attention to the inability and unwillingness of the present authorities in Kiev to curb rampant violence by ultra-nationalist and radical groups that destabilise the situation and terrorise civilians, including Russian speaking population,

As i said...Eastern Ukraine is next
 
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Alaska should be next.Bears there have russian passports and they're treathened by american nazi hunters.Free Yogi and Bubu tsar Vladimir !
 
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Alaska should be next.Bears there have russian passports and they're treathened by american nazi hunters.Free Yogi and Bubu tsar Vladimir !

You are just jealous you are not getting an opportunity to join Mother Russia :lol:

During an interview with NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel, Crimea's Deputy Prime Minister called Sunday's referendum "the first step."

"It's the first step. I really think so," the deputy prime minister, Rustam Temirgaliev, said. "I think the second step will be eastern Ukraine."

Well....its certain now
 
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Probably, but my hope is for Odessa more in the west
That would prevent the NATO polish west ukranians from having access to the sea
 
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Crimea had russias only warm water ports that why russia had to secure crimea before ukraine turned anti-russia. Russian aims are fulfilled. it wont go for any more ukrainian territory.
 
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