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Constructing a Hindu ummah

For the non Muslims here.

You are thinking about Ummah in the most literal sense without any background knowledge or appreciation of its rationality based on spiritual aspects as stated in the Quran.

The term Hindu Ummah is the most basic of appropriation.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan The more you examine the Quran, the more you see its wisdom and timeless utility.
 
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Is he trying lie and hiding something.
Even hindus living in different regions of india have different cultures.
I worked with some South hindus and they dont celebrate holi or diwali.they told me its north hindus thing.
In South they celebrate onam which north side dont do.
These gangu scums lie too much.they even dont like each other because of different cultures.
Hindu from south are more united than any other community.


Well...world is really witnessing about how you guys and united and making the world a peaceful place...
 
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Will India just burn the bridges with the only Hindu nation in the world which is Nepal so I'm not sure how they are going to build any Hindu Umma !
 
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When we muslims signed any contract for world peace?

If you don't want our reaction just stop poking your nose into our internal matters and territory. Plain and simple...

Who is “ours” here? Pakistan or Muslim in general? Because India and Pakistan are not friends so obviously both will interfere in each others affairs..
 
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The Buddhist/Atheist Communist China and Hindu India seemed to be proven future Gog and Magog / Yajuj and Majuj. All the people of Book should unite under one umbrella of Eesaa/Jesus (PBUH) to defeat this common enemy to save human civilization.

Yajuj Majuj will support Dajjal and Israel, so where is China in that equation? You are going by some archaic beliefs of some scholars who said Mongols would be Yajuj Majuj, but in the end they converted to Islam.

China itself supports Palestine, Kashmir, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, and African Muslim nations against Western machinations. They are our friend, not enemy.

As far as India, they are not strong enough to be Yajuj Majuj, nor do they have any ability to harm Muslim Ummah outside Pakistan/Kashmir and Bangladesh. We have contained them into just South Asia.

Very well said. But since you mentioned China, I am afraid that Pakistanis will start beating you :).

As per your request, I am here sir.

They can be found in NYC, New Jersey, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Silicon Valley, UK and many many other places. Because of the Hindu diaspora in these places, RSS has been quite successful in recruiting extremist adherents for their cause.

However I believe this phenomenon - in spite of RSS hopes, is temporary. The kids will become Americanized and will integrate to the American mainstream.

Sitting in the US, no native-born US kid gives a flying eff about what is happening in Bangladesh, India or Pakistan. Just not in their radar...

Many of us donate back to our country, support family back home, regularly give charity, and bring our families to visit Pakistan yearly. Some Pakistanis who left for political reasons (MQM,ANP,JI, Ahmadiyya) are not so keen on Pakistan, but most of us are very attached to our homeland.

Yet I will admit UK, Canadian Muslims are much better organized and politically, socially active than frightened cowardly American Muslims.

Can't really comment on the others like BD and India. They generally stay withing their own communities and tend to not mingle.

I am sure they have their own concept of United Hindu's, one thing is for certain if any country or nation has to survive they need to unite under either nationalism or Religion , or else you will become a easy target . remind me of those documentaries I watch , Books i read over the years from the time Prophet to Salahdin , As long as Muslims remain united they stand a fighting chance, the moment they divide themselves into sects , kingdoms , race and language , they all perish , one after the other . Say whatever you want but west adopted this unity and they come with some greatest Alliance, and stay true to their words in dire need , Something Muslims would be doing but ....

The whole show Diriliş: Ertuğrul is based on this concept. Great show and available on Netflix, watch it when able.

For the non Muslims here.

You are thinking about Ummah in the most literal sense without any background knowledge or appreciation of its rationality based on spiritual aspects as stated in the Quran.

The term Hindu Ummah is the most basic of appropriation.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan The more you examine the Quran, the more you see its wisdom and timeless utility.

Ameen brother, preach the truth.

Ummat in Islam is a transcendent principle based on spirituality and connection with Prophet Muhammad Hazoor Pak saws, our other prophets, the angels, sahabah, and our ancestors. It is the concept which connects Muslims to our past/present/future, and are the fibers which bind every living/dead Muslim together. It is an integral part of Islam.

The logic is this, if there is only one God, Allah swt, one religion Islam, one divine holy book Quran, then it follows that the community of Muslims is also one at heart.

This is regardless of the politics of governments, kings, and rulers which are ephemeral.
 
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Yajuj Majuj will support Dajjal and Israel, so where is China in that equation? You are going by some archaic beliefs of some scholars who said Mongols would be Yajuj Majuj, but in the end they converted to Islam.

China itself supports Palestine, Kashmir, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, and African Muslim nations against Western machinations. They are our friend, not enemy.

As far as India, they are not strong enough to be Yajuj Majuj, nor do they have any ability to harm Muslim Ummah outside Pakistan/Kashmir and Bangladesh. We have contained them into just South Asia.

I dont find any relation of Yajuj Majuj with Dajjal and Israel. Not much according to religious view points but just from realistic worldview. As those religions came around Arabia, earlier people's thought process revolved around those regions. As the sphere of these religions are now spread across whole world. Time to think from broader perspective. Both Hindu India and Atheist China are greater in number. The people of books care for rule of law. As long as people of books exists on earth there will be rule of law. With the demise of people of books, the Human civilization will go down with them. Means end of the day. Both India and China known to defy common laws practiced around the world. One is communism and another is fascism.
Hindu India deep down hates any religions not originated inside India. That means they are against people of books and laws. Look these line perfectly describes India.
they are only half the height of a normal man, with claws instead of nails and a hairy tail and huge hairy ears which they use as mattress and cover for sleeping.[104] They scratch at their wall each day until they almost break through.
Plus consider the two walls, Indians are trapped in Namely Himalaya and Pakistan. They scratch Pakistan everyday and call to demolish this wall in future. Makes sense.
And there is Atheist China they also oppose the religions and known to persecute follower of books. They are also trapped between two walls. One is virtual firewall and another is Himalaya or Great wall of China or Communism. Muslims Historians countless time identified the wall as great wall of China. And China helping Muslim countries doesnt hold any value. As Islamicity is mostly practiced among people of other books. China's policy on Rohingyas and Uighurs made them anti civilization.
 
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Somebody had wild imagination while writing this article as if all Hindus are working towards our own ummah. We are more Israeli type protecting only what we call our mother (Our homeland). This comes naturally to us, no deliberate concept required.
 
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I dont find any relation of Yajuj Majuj with Dajjal and Israel. Not much according to religious view points but just from realistic worldview. As those religions came around Arabia, earlier people's thought process revolved around those regions. As the sphere of these religions are now spread across whole world. Time to think from broader perspective. Both Hindu India and Atheist China are greater in number. The people of books care for rule of law. As long as people of books exists on earth there will be rule of law. With the demise of people of books, the Human civilization will go down with them. Means end of the day. Both India and China known to defy common laws practiced around the world. One is communism and another is fascism.
Hindu India deep down hates any religions not originated inside India. That means they are against people of books and laws. Look these line perfectly describes India.

Plus consider the two walls, Indians are trapped in Namely Himalaya and Pakistan. They scratch Pakistan everyday and call to demolish this wall in future. Makes sense.
And there is Atheist China they also oppose the religions and known to persecute follower of books. They are also trapped between two walls. One is virtual firewall and another is Himalaya or Great wall of China or Communism. Muslims Historians countless time identified the wall as great wall of China. And China helping Muslim countries doesnt hold any value. As Islamicity is mostly practiced among people of other books. China's policy on Rohingyas and Uighurs made them anti civilization.
And surprisingly both are polytheistic power. Indian religion ( Hindu)is totally polytheistic religion. And apart from atheist and few mainstream Buddhists, Chinese traditional religions are polytheism.

Also both country can be hostile to common peoples unlike western countries.
Both are extremely anti Muslim. Uighur and Rohingyas, kashmiris are the proof!

As far as India, they are not strong enough to be Yajuj Majuj,
India's problem is India is not organized and managed country like China. Otherwise India could perform the same miracle as China did.

If you can effectively manage 1.3 billions of population, with huge amount of fertile land ( indo gangetic plain) , that is greater in amount than China, you also can perform miracle.

So India probably can be strong enough to become Yajuj Majuj, they just need management.

And @Doctor Strange already explained about china's position on Rohingyas and Uighurs.
 
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I dont find any relation of Yajuj Majuj with Dajjal and Israel. Not much according to religious view points but just from realistic worldview. As those religions came around Arabia, earlier people's thought process revolved around those regions. As the sphere of these religions are now spread across whole world. Time to think from broader perspective. Both Hindu India and Atheist China are greater in number. The people of books care for rule of law. As long as people of books exists on earth there will be rule of law. With the demise of people of books, the Human civilization will go down with them. Means end of the day. Both India and China known to defy common laws practiced around the world. One is communism and another is fascism.
Hindu India deep down hates any religions not originated inside India. That means they are against people of books and laws. Look these line perfectly describes India.

Plus consider the two walls, Indians are trapped in Namely Himalaya and Pakistan. They scratch Pakistan everyday and call to demolish this wall in future. Makes sense.
And there is Atheist China they also oppose the religions and known to persecute follower of books. They are also trapped between two walls. One is virtual firewall and another is Himalaya or Great wall of China or Communism. Muslims Historians countless time identified the wall as great wall of China. And China helping Muslim countries doesnt hold any value. As Islamicity is mostly practiced among people of other books. China's policy on Rohingyas and Uighurs made them anti civilization.

Since religious discussion is not allowed on this forum, this will be my last post on this topic.

You are passing off your own wishes as truth, which goes against the well known sahih hadith about the subject. Since you are not educated in this field, I suggest you leave this to the scholars of Islam and rely on only sahih hadith to talk about the akhir uz zaman (last age.)

There is a well known hadith on the subject Yajuj Majuj.

Look at this account by Tamim Ad Dari from Sahih Muslim: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/82643/the-hadeeth-of-tameem-al-daari-about-the-dajjaal

Here it mentions specifically ad-Dajjal asking him about if the Lake of Tiberias has dissappeared.

In another sahih hadith: They will emerge in huge numbers and will drink up the lake of Tiberias (in Palestine). https://islamqa.info/en/answers/171...the-beast-and-yajooj-and-majooj-gog-and-magog

As for the wall of Zulqarnain, it is clearly in the Caucasus mountains as even the Sahabah (in Hazrat Umar RA's khilafat) had the feeling that the Khazars (Mongol-Turkic Jewish converts now known as Ashkenazis) were Yajuj Majuj due to them being unbeatable in battle and emerging around that time. These are not my words but esteemed scholars on the subject like Dr. Israr Ahmad RAA and Imran Hosein haved detailed it.

Another hadith clearly states the wall of Yajuj Majuj was broken during the life of Prophet Muhammad saws.

Look at points 2 and 3 here: https://www.islamweb.net/en/article/202810/the-emergence-of-yajooj-and-majooj-gog-and-magog

Surah Anbiyyah (The Prophets) verses 95-96 state as:



“But there’s a ban on the population which We have destroyed: that they shall not return.”



“Until the Gog and Magog are let through (their barrier),and they swiftly swarm from every height.”

Lastly, these verses of the Holy Quran clearly show Yajuj Majuj and their connection to a town and a population which Allah swt destroyed. That place is Israel, and Jerusalem in specific. Note the last word in Arabic: Yansilun.

Allama Iqbal:



¤ Gog and Magog all have been
released
¤ The Muslim eye will see the meaning of ‘Yansilun

(Bang-e-Dra-194)

Please stopping passing off your own analysis as truth. Our religion of Islam is one based on scripture and sources, not conjecture.
 
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