Conspiracy to kill Hasina - Delhi cautions Dhaka

[leonblack08]

Unfortunately we have few experts and analysts doing this work and I understand that the DGFI has moved RAW off its list of hostile intelligence agencies that require constant monitoring.

With due respect ,I think our DGFI have become more of a tool for our Political parties in power than for country's security.The political parties in power used DGFI to suppress the opposition.
As a result their ability in national security is compromised.That is why we had incident like BDR mutiny.


It is totally shocking to read articles of M K Dhar (former IB deputy chief) blaming DGFI for setting up extraordinary network in India.Whereas the reality points to something else.

 

[leonblack08]

I think the problem is that until only a few years ago hardly anyone talked about RAW in BD so when a number of disclosures appear it seems like a avalanche. We are only now getting a more accurate perspective on RAW operations in BD. At the same time we should discriminate as to what are actual RAW subversive activities and what are operations carried out by other groups.

Well,People may be didn't talk about RAW in precise but certainly they did talk about India.People knew about the foul play carried out by Indian Intelligence agencies.So it can't be said that we were altogether unaware of RAW activities.May be so much details were not available,but certainly people were able to figure out something was wrong.

But sometimes things are exaggerated.Even if it wasn't a RAW ops,it was blamed on "Foreign hand" by Govts.Our politicians used this as excuse to cover up their mistakes.The so called "Foreign Hand".

 

[idune]

Constant vigilance is only way to expose RAW activity and take first step towards interruption. It may displease someone (we know what type these people are) but nonetheless with political party in power actively facilitate Indian interest and RAW activities in Bangladesh, people and society have very little choice.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Well,People may be didn't talk about RAW in precise but certainly they did talk about India.People knew about the foul play carried out by Indian Intelligence agencies.So it can't be said that we were altogether unaware of RAW activities.May be so much details were not available,but certainly people were able to figure out something was wrong.

But sometimes things are exaggerated.Even if it wasn't a RAW ops,it was blamed on "Foreign hand" by Govts.Our politicians used this as excuse to cover up their mistakes.The so called "Foreign Hand".

You would be surprised at the extent of ignorance when it comes to the activities of RAW and India. Several senior AL leaders who obtained a copy of the second edition of my book later commented that they had no idea of what India had been engaged in. Having also talked to many Freedom Fighters who read my book they also said that having fought in the 1971 war they were not aware of many of the issues I raised. It may be argued that the information in my book is somehow defective but not a single Awami Leaguer or Freedom Fighter has disputed the contents of the book.

As for the matter of government mistakes you will find after closer inspection that these were not mistakes but deliberate policy. Let us take the BDR Mutiny and the inactivity of the government. How much of what happened down to government ‘mistakes’ and how much to conspiracy?

 

[Skies]

I am honestly surprised at the gall of some Bangladeshis here.

You have a country because it suited India in 1971 not to internalize your mess.

You are surrounded by India from all sides ..... including the ocean.

Cheers, Doc

Do u guys think that India will help us again in case of any war with Burma or else as they did in 71 for their own purpose. Though I believe Burma is our friend.

And what the hell India think if they surrounded us when size dose not matter in war as whole middle east is stupidly silent against little Israel?

India thinks that they are surrounded us and thus they could dominate us geographically and economically. That's why we should not give them any transit at all. And we should build highway immediately with China via Burma to reduce Indian dominance. But I don't know either China is interested to build highway with us or not since they seems very quiet.

 

[ek_indian]

Do u guys think that India will help us again in case of any war with Burma or else as they did in 71 for their own purpose. Though I believe Burma is our friend.

Why do you have to go to war with Burma specially when you have "friendly" relation with them. You never ask whether India will help in trade/technology etc. but you ask if we would help you in war. Pathetic.

BTW, you wrote very intelligent thing. Each country goes for any action acccording to their interest. This is ground rule. Those who do for others, they suffers at the end and we have seen that.


Just for humour, Will BD support India in case of any war or it is one way favour??

And what the hell India think if they surrounded us when size dose not matter in war as whole middle east is stupidly silent against little Israel?

Well if speaking geographically, BD is surrounded by India. For the rest, you are not completely correct. Israel has support of super powers which you lacks. But this is offtopic.

India thinks that they are surrounded us and thus they could dominate us geographically and economically. That's why we should not give them any transit at all. And we should build highway immediately with China via Burma to reduce Indian dominance. But I don't know either China is interested to build highway with us or not since they seems very quiet.

No offences but, India has already dominted BD economically and geographically.
You seems pissed off with India for some reason. Just think if India also closes its trasit routes what happens. Better not to flame.

Just now you were talking about war with Burma and now a joint highway project. Please do not throw contradictory posts just because you hate India.

 

[Skies]

@ek_indian

U completely misinterpret to my last post#97!
As u (India) always claims us that u helped us in 71. That's why I just asked this hypothetical question in case of any war.

I do no think BD will help India in case of any war except showing some sympathy.

 

[ek_indian]

@ek_indian

U completely misinterpret to my last post#97!
As u (India) always claims us that u helped us in 71. That's why I just asked this hypothetical question in case of any war.

I do no think BD will help India in case of any war except showing some sympathy.

Perhaps you failed to realize that I hinted towards it. It is a known fact that India helped in 1971 war. "How much" could be a matter of debate but it certainly helped. Now please think why it helped. The simple reason is, Indian interest was associated with it. That's what I said any country does what suits it best and serves its interest in best possible manner.

So the answer of your question is, India can go with BD. It can also go for Burma. It might stay neutral as well. All depends on what the situation would be and how Indian interests will be served best.

 

[idune]

Good to see at least one indian admitted reason indian involvement in 1971.

But lets not derail from the thread.

 

[eastwatch]

Good to see at least one indian admitted reason indian involvement in 1971.

But lets not derail from the thread.

Yes, but Indian help in 1971 also served our interest, isn't it? This is how we could break out from the shackles of west Pakistani control. All wartime cooperations are reciprocal. Indians got a divided Pakistan and we got our land free of occupation after about nine months.

As for India surrounding us, if the Indians see the map minutely they will see our geography can be compared with a chess board. We are inside their stomach, but not really surrounded by them. In fact, their NE's future depends upon the goodwill of BD.

Even any war against China cannot be fought by India unless we cooperate with it, at least indirectly. India needs also our cooperation to control the seccesionists in the NE. So, do they surround us or, in the true meaning of the word, we surround them?

In reality, we are controlling the NE geography. Even, India alone cannot develop that part without our assisstance in trade and industry. India has asked and we have granted a temporary water-rail transit facility for their power plant heavy machineries to be transported to Agartala. India is waiting eagerly for us to build a $10 billion deep sea port near Cox's Bazaar. They want to use the port facilities to transport goods to and from their NE.

But, it is not needed to brag like Indians. Bragging shows smallness of a mind.

 

[ek_indian]

Yes, but Indian help in 1971 also served our interest, isn't it? This is how we could break out from the shackles of west Pakistani control. All wartime cooperations are reciprocal. Indians got a divided Pakistan and we got our land free of occupation after about nine months.

Thank you for balanced response. I have hilighted the most important part.

As for India surrounding us, if the Indians see the map minutely they will see our geography can be compared with a chess board. We are inside their stomach, but not really surrounded by them. In fact, their NE's future depends upon the goodwill of BD.

Even any war against China cannot be fought by India unless we cooperate with it, at least indirectly. India needs also our cooperation to control the seccesionists in the NE. So, do they surround us or, in the true meaning of the word, we surround them?

India is not going for war with China or any country. Its current priority is economic development.

In reality, we are controlling the NE geography. Even, India alone cannot develop that part without our assisstance in trade and industry. India has asked and we have granted a temporary water-rail transit facility for their power plant heavy machineries to be transported to Agartala. India is waiting eagerly for us to build a $10 billion deep sea port near Cox's Bazaar. They want to use the port facilities to transport goods to and from their NE.

I agree that BD is associated with India as they are neighbours. However you did a bit much saying that India in a way, depends on BD. No dear it is not. Certainly BD can create trouble for us if it wishes so. But we have other channels as well. But I think India-BD relation are good and this will improve over time so no funny games would be there.

But, it is not needed to brag like Indians. Bragging shows smallness of a mind.

Way too generalization my friend.

 

[eastwatch]

There is clear difference between praise and exposing RAW activity and design. Our effort are to do the later.

If there is any evidence to prove otherwise about what has came out about RAW activity, do that. Reverse psycho spin is not going to work.

There is also a difference between exposing some RAW bad acts time to time and glorifying it all the time by saying it has installed the BD govt. Of course, a Burmese national can be expected to say this kind of thing that demeans BD.